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OK I’ve just watched the pilot of Umbrella Academy no spoilers but tell me if I’ve got...

OK I’ve just watched the pilot of Umbrella Academy 

 no spoilers but tell me if I’ve got it right:

Epics, Break-Up Songs, & That Old Chestnut, ‘Just Because You Don’t Like It Doesn’t Make It Bad’

parrish-the-thought:

maggie-stiefvater:

Let’s talk narrative structure.

(this is gonna be long)

So, it’s April and the internet is all abuzz over new upcoming material from two big franchises: the new Star Wars trailer, and the new Avengers movie. My investment in both is simple, uncomplicated, a tourist’s interest, not a pilgrim’s. But I am very curious about them as a storyteller, because I think both use a narrative structure that’s going to dominate the next few decades. It’s gonna be one of those things when people say “remember all those movies and books from the naughts that did x and y?” and everyone who came of age in this time is going to nostalgically sigh and say ‘oh, man, they don’t make movies like that anymore’ and everyone who came of age a few decades before will hiss ‘thank GOD’ and the generation who came of age a few decades before them will say ‘I don’t know what you’re even talking about, they’re just movies.’

The thing about trends is that they will be just movies to people who are first really paying to media now. They will be normal, and whatever comes next will be the New Thing. 

A Note About Trends And The Dominant Damn Paradigm

Trends happen when a particular subject, shape, or storytelling tic becomes so normalized in the mainstream that it becomes invisible to the average viewer or reader. They don’t see them as innovative, experimental, or even as stylization. It feels ‘real’ and so therefore communicates emotion and information straight to the consumer with the same efficacy as real life events. Some of these invisible trends are so evergreen that they seem permanent: Three act structure, training montages, prologues that take place in a completely different timeline. None of these are actually inherent to telling a story (there are all kinds of historical stories that don’t use them), but they’re so commonly used that they feel that way to most people. They’re just there. They’re just story. 

Other things that are even less inherent can also be so normalized that viewers begin to not notice their use as unusual: a happy ending, having a good-looking guy as our narrator/ hero, having a woman die to begin the hero’s arc, blue/ orange filters, onscreen murder, characters breaking into song, a two hour run time, a 350 page count, etc., etc. 

Narrative structure can trend as easily as anything else, and that’s what we’re looking at now. We’re moving from the age of break-up songs to the age of epics, a transition made weirder by the break-up songs still playing in the background.

Possibly when you read on you’ll immediately think of fourteen movies and books that don’t match the pattern I’m talking about. This is because Ppop culture doesn’t eat stuff that doesn’t fit in it — it just shades it with its huge, homogenous, trendy mass. There’s still stuff out there that is doing its own thing. Not everyone wore big shoulder pads and white pants in the ‘80s either, but we all know how we remember it. 

Why Do I Care?

Because as a professional storyteller, it’s my job to know what is invisible (and thus costs the reader nothing) versus what is now outside the norm (and thus costs the reader something to process). I don’t mind asking the reader to work for things that are important to me, but I need to know when I’m doing it in order to make sure I can keep their overall load light enough that they don’t lose emotional investment and trade my novel for Netflix. 

A Brief Pedagogical Interlude

I am often asked in my writing seminars to talk about how I handled point-of-view in the Raven Cycle, my four-book series that started in ‘12 and finished in ‘16 (although if that end date makes you sad, know that there’s a spin off trilogy beginning this fall). Folks often don’t even know what to call it. They call it third person. Third person close. Multiple third person. Omniscient.

Technically, it’s close third person broken occasionally by a few omniscient chapters used under certain conditions (for instance, on a group of psychics, on villains, on sentient forests). 

Practically, here’s what it is: influenced by film.

I don’t think I meant for it to be. I think probably if you’d asked me at the time what I was doing, I would have said it was meant to be shaped like a dream. But practically, it is influenced by film, because I’d watched enough film for that structure to become my normal. Invisible. 

And what do sprawling contemporary fantasy films look like? Multiple narrators with occasional villain cams and the snatch here and there of omniscient establishing shots of the setting or people who don’t carry a ton of the narrative but are tonally useful to eyeball for a second or two.

That is the Raven Cycle. It’s a structure that feels natural because we’ve seen it so often, but it’s actually a bit of a strange thing to translate it to written form. There’s a word for when a novel moves from protagonist to protagonist in short order, and it’s not a flattering one: head-hopping. It’s considered poor form, and for good reason. Readers only have so much emotional investment to spend, so the wisdom goes, and wouldn’t you rather they spent it all on your hero?

Or so the wisdom used to go. 

The Break-Up Song Is Always In First Person

Do you guys remember Sleepless in Seattle? Garden State? House? For the longest time, pop culture was focused on the hero’s journey. There are books and books written on this subject but really all we need for purposes of this blog post is this: hero (1)(one)(I). One hero per customer, one hero per lane, one hero per story. The standard story followed one hero through a series of trials. In a happy story, he started out shit and became great. In a tragedy he started out great and went to shit. There were other characters, but they were supporting roles. The antagonist foiled our hero. The love interest acted as stake and prize and mirror. The comic relief let off some steam. 

In novel form, this was even more pronounced, often focused through first person narration. You were sticking with this hero, dammit, to bitter end.

I remember a time in my twenties when we were up to our necks in the most intimate version of this. The shelves were chick lit, the screens were indie rock, the historical fiction followed one woman’s journey through one day of the plague in one small town in France as seen through her penned journal shared with no one. 

We were living the prose version of the break-up song genre. Dude, it wasn’t like we were going to hear a verse from the point of view of the person who broke the singer’s heart. This wasn’t about them. 

The Reaction to the Reaction

But writers are what they eat. Every writer writes stories that are responses to what they’ve taken in as consumers: a fond homage or an opposite reaction or a correction or a new angle.

And while the break-up song genre was happening, other films and books kept on being made. Thrillers and mysteries continued on even as pop culture had its moment with the intimate, character driven story of a single mother who died and haunted an olive oil decanter on a strange family’s shelf for a decade, and they began to rub off on each other. 

Even as the trend of intimate stories passed, the character-driven nature of them left its mark. Readers and viewers no longer believed in the straightforward hero’s journey. No one was that simple. Batman got rebooted, James Bond got some consequences. Heroes got more and more morally gray. The world was getting more and more morally gray, too, after all, and narrative kept up. What was the price of privilege? What was the price of winning? Was this really a happy ending?

Narrative answered the question by glancing at the situation from other points of view, and those glances got longer and longer and longer. One POV became two. Became three. Became four. 

Ok, Back To the Marvel and Star Wars Thing

Became Marvel and Star Wars. Now we’re fully into Trend: Epic. We humans have done this trend before, where everyone’s larger than life and the stakes are sky high and your backyard is full of giants and whatnot. But now this trend is being informed by coming on the heels of the break-up song. Readers and viewers developed a taste for deep character development in our emo phase and now want it at the same time that they now hunger for huge casts. 

Previously, it’s a conundrum that would’ve been resolved by narrowing down the focus onto one person within that cast, digging down deep into their journey, and reducing everyone else to a secondary or tertiary character. Villain, love interest, comic relief.*

But that doesn’t satisfy the current trend of epic, of nuance, of a vast cast explored as deeply as possible. Viewers don’t want Poe to be simply a walk-on. They want villainous Loki to have as much of a character arc as heroic Thor. If a character is interesting, they want them handed a camera for as long as possible. And the more noble a hero seems, the more they want to see the skeletons in his closet, because no one believes in empty closets these days.  

*interestingly, I just saw Venom last week, a film everyone had been telling me was “old-fashioned,” and what it gave me was precisely that old model.

You can see the difference in the way narrative point of view is handled if you compare the original Star Wars trilogy with the current. The two are close cousins, intentionally so, which makes for easy comparison. It doesn’t take long to see how the original trilogy focused quite tightly on the trio of Luke, Leia, and Han, and pretty tightly on Luke even within that, versus the new film, which follows the trend of spreading the character development as thick and deep as possible amongst a large cast who shares story as equitably as possible.

You can also track it in the length of commercial films. You need a ton of room to develop character, and you can watch block busters get longer and longer as they eek minutes here and there for a touching flashback or a crushing personal revelation or final hand clasp. 

There’s a lot of pros to stories like this: there’s feels everywhere, as the internet says. We’re asked to engage emotionally with every storyline rather than intellectually. We’re given lots of characters to love. Empathy is pumped to all time high across the board. 

But there’s cons too: if a character arc doesn’t get enough time (and they can’t all, because there are so many going), the emotional beats can feel unearned and forced. We might feel like we’re going through the motions, landing on beats that we know ought to be there, and beats that we want to be there, but feeling dissatisfied with how we got there. 

It means that when it works, it works on an epic, massive, life shifting scale, everything snapping together with neat, agonizing emotion at the end.

It means that when it doesn’t work, we end up with empty spectacle that leaves us feeling disconnected and confused by why we didn’t love a thing that gave us everything we thought we wanted.

Oh God We’ve All Been Exposed!

I can feel it changing my narrative, too. At one point as I was working on Call Down the Hawk, the trilogy opener I mentioned up top, I realized that I’d spread my story too thin across characters. I was burning pages by the dozen as I tried to make sure they were all arcing in complicated, satisfying ways. When I shaved things down for pacing, I found myself with a skeletal, shallow plot outline. What the hell, I thought. You know better. Head-hopping is to be kept to a minimum. 

But not in 2019. You are what you eat, and I’d been eating a lot of media that sat right smack in the middle of this epic narrative structure. I had to sit back and ask myself: what is the story you actually want to tell? Pick your cameras and trust them. And then I cut my important arcs to two and pushed everyone else back to secondary and tertiary.

Because here’s the thing: I don’t actually care for the multi-cam break-up song epic thing we’ve got going on right now. The world’s making a lot of movies that aren’t really for me these days. I’m not too fussed about it because I know the reaction to the reaction to the reaction that comes around on the other side will probably swing it back my way, but for now, I leave the cinema with a shrug more often than not, and I put down a lot of novels.

But here’s the other thing:

Just Because You Don’t Like a Thing Doesn’t Mean It’s Bad

Sometimes it just means it’s not for you. 

At the beginning of all this I noted that the current story shape is going to feel like the default story shape to people coming of age now. Whatever was popular when you were coming of age is one of your default story shapes. 

The key to being an interesting and dynamic human is making sure that you’re curious and flexible enough to be willing to accept other shapes. You don’t have to like everything, but if you don’t want to become obsolete, you gotta at least give it a shot. We all know the person who only listens to the music from their childhood, who says “they don’t write books like they used to.” Don’t be that person. Before you shake your stick at the kids on your lawn and say “that sucks” maybe ask if it’s just not for you. 

And then wait a decade. ‘Cause it’ll come back around from the break up song to the epic to something totally different again and maybe to something that’s precisely your jam.

If not, no one’s stopping you from writing something that is.

ETA: Also probably worth noting that this narrative shift is probably inspired by fanfic and vice versa (since fanfic’s stakes are often purely emotional), but I can’t speak cohesively to that since I don’t read fanfic, I just HEAR a lot about it.

@maggie-stiefvater This is fascinating! I actually wonder if our tastes for sprawling, multi-character arcs popularized because of the narrative structure of television, since television has been doing these ensemble stories for longer than most films and books have. In fact, the goals of Marvel and the new Star Wars movies probably more closely align with the goals of television than they do with most other movies—the goal being to stretch the story and the universe for as long as possible. 

The format of television shows almost REQUIRE several multi-character arcs, because the main goal of a show is usually to stretch the story into as many seasons as possible, and you can’t easily do that with just one protagonist. You need viewers to stay to watch every episode every season, and you need a lot of different types of stories to keep their interest. Of course, this leads to a big cast that grows as the show goes on, and viewers get more and more used to connecting with several different characters. Think of Friends, which started with Monica as an everygirl kind of protagonist with a group of eccentric friends, and then gradually morphed into a show that gave equal weight to every character in the main group, because that’s what the show needed to be to keep its viewership. 

But as you said about emotional beats potentially feeling unearned and forced, a lot of standalone films and books struggle with multi-character POVs because multi-character POVS just… did not originate in those formats. There’s a time constraint that just isn’t present in television. Television wants the story as long as you can make it. Films and books are limited and are usually trying to tell one story really well. And it’s a little sad to me that a lot of readers now expect equal weight to all their favorite characters, when books don’t have to require that to be worth reading.

Obviously, there’s a lot of examples of how equal, multi-character POVS have been done well in books (The Raven Cycle of course, Game of Thrones, Six of Crows also comes to mind), but notice that these tend to require several different books, not just one (like television episodes, perhaps??). I just find it interesting the ways that we’re using different formats to satisfy the same desire—loving as many characters as deeply as possible. (And in a roundabout way, I also think that’s partly why we’re in a golden age of television. Because television had multi-character POVS, which made us crave multi-character POVs, which caused an abundance of television that did that really well)

TL,DR: I’d argue that we started loving these multi-character POVS because of multi-season television, and now we’re trying to put it into all our storytelling formats.

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2 days ago I sat in the library and read a drawing book that...

2 days ago I sat in the library and read a drawing book that said that all you needed for a likeness in a portrait were the dark values because we could recognize a person by the shape of their shadows and I’ve been completely absorbed in the perfection of that metaphor for days. 

(Book was “The Artist’s Complete Guide to Drawing the Head” by William Maugham)

Epics, Break-Up Songs, & That Old Chestnut, ‘Just Because You Don’t Like It Doesn’t Make It Bad’

Let’s talk narrative structure. (this is gonna be long) So, it’s April and the internet is all abuzz over new upcoming material from two big franchises: the new Star Wars trailer, and the new Avengers movie. My investment in both is simple, uncomplicated, a tourist’s interest, not a pilgrim’s. But I am very curious about […]

‪I drew a little Rey since I was thinking about Star Wars after writing that blog post last night.‬

‪I drew a little Rey since I was thinking about Star Wars after writing that blog post last night.‬

Epics, Break-Up Songs, & That Old Chestnut, ‘Just Because You Don’t Like It Doesn’t Make It Bad’

Let’s talk narrative structure.

(this is gonna be long)

So, it’s April and the internet is all abuzz over new upcoming material from two big franchises: the new Star Wars trailer, and the new Avengers movie. My investment in both is simple, uncomplicated, a tourist’s interest, not a pilgrim’s. But I am very curious about them as a storyteller, because I think both use a narrative structure that’s going to dominate the next few decades. It’s gonna be one of those things when people say “remember all those movies and books from the naughts that did x and y?” and everyone who came of age in this time is going to nostalgically sigh and say ‘oh, man, they don’t make movies like that anymore’ and everyone who came of age a few decades before will hiss ‘thank GOD’ and the generation who came of age a few decades before them will say ‘I don’t know what you’re even talking about, they’re just movies.’

The thing about trends is that they will be just movies to people who are first really paying to media now. They will be normal, and whatever comes next will be the New Thing. 

A Note About Trends And The Dominant Damn Paradigm

Trends happen when a particular subject, shape, or storytelling tic becomes so normalized in the mainstream that it becomes invisible to the average viewer or reader. They don’t see them as innovative, experimental, or even as stylization. It feels ‘real’ and so therefore communicates emotion and information straight to the consumer with the same efficacy as real life events. Some of these invisible trends are so evergreen that they seem permanent: Three act structure, training montages, prologues that take place in a completely different timeline. None of these are actually inherent to telling a story (there are all kinds of historical stories that don’t use them), but they’re so commonly used that they feel that way to most people. They’re just there. They’re just story. 

Other things that are even less inherent can also be so normalized that viewers begin to not notice their use as unusual: a happy ending, having a good-looking guy as our narrator/ hero, having a woman die to begin the hero’s arc, blue/ orange filters, onscreen murder, characters breaking into song, a two hour run time, a 350 page count, etc., etc. 

Narrative structure can trend as easily as anything else, and that’s what we’re looking at now. We’re moving from the age of break-up songs to the age of epics, a transition made weirder by the break-up songs still playing in the background.

Possibly when you read on you’ll immediately think of fourteen movies and books that don’t match the pattern I’m talking about. This is because Ppop culture doesn’t eat stuff that doesn’t fit in it — it just shades it with its huge, homogenous, trendy mass. There’s still stuff out there that is doing its own thing. Not everyone wore big shoulder pads and white pants in the ‘80s either, but we all know how we remember it. 

Why Do I Care?

Because as a professional storyteller, it’s my job to know what is invisible (and thus costs the reader nothing) versus what is now outside the norm (and thus costs the reader something to process). I don’t mind asking the reader to work for things that are important to me, but I need to know when I’m doing it in order to make sure I can keep their overall load light enough that they don’t lose emotional investment and trade my novel for Netflix. 

A Brief Pedagogical Interlude

I am often asked in my writing seminars to talk about how I handled point-of-view in the Raven Cycle, my four-book series that started in ‘12 and finished in ‘16 (although if that end date makes you sad, know that there’s a spin off trilogy beginning this fall). Folks often don’t even know what to call it. They call it third person. Third person close. Multiple third person. Omniscient.

Technically, it’s close third person broken occasionally by a few omniscient chapters used under certain conditions (for instance, on a group of psychics, on villains, on sentient forests). 

Practically, here’s what it is: influenced by film.

I don’t think I meant for it to be. I think probably if you’d asked me at the time what I was doing, I would have said it was meant to be shaped like a dream. But practically, it is influenced by film, because I’d watched enough film for that structure to become my normal. Invisible. 

And what do sprawling contemporary fantasy films look like? Multiple narrators with occasional villain cams and the snatch here and there of omniscient establishing shots of the setting or people who don’t carry a ton of the narrative but are tonally useful to eyeball for a second or two.

That is the Raven Cycle. It’s a structure that feels natural because we’ve seen it so often, but it’s actually a bit of a strange thing to translate it to written form. There’s a word for when a novel moves from protagonist to protagonist in short order, and it’s not a flattering one: head-hopping. It’s considered poor form, and for good reason. Readers only have so much emotional investment to spend, so the wisdom goes, and wouldn’t you rather they spent it all on your hero?

Or so the wisdom used to go. 

The Break-Up Song Is Always In First Person

Do you guys remember Sleepless in Seattle? Garden State? House? For the longest time, pop culture was focused on the hero’s journey. There are books and books written on this subject but really all we need for purposes of this blog post is this: hero (1)(one)(I). One hero per customer, one hero per lane, one hero per story. The standard story followed one hero through a series of trials. In a happy story, he started out shit and became great. In a tragedy he started out great and went to shit. There were other characters, but they were supporting roles. The antagonist foiled our hero. The love interest acted as stake and prize and mirror. The comic relief let off some steam. 

In novel form, this was even more pronounced, often focused through first person narration. You were sticking with this hero, dammit, to bitter end.

I remember a time in my twenties when we were up to our necks in the most intimate version of this. The shelves were chick lit, the screens were indie rock, the historical fiction followed one woman’s journey through one day of the plague in one small town in France as seen through her penned journal shared with no one. 

We were living the prose version of the break-up song genre. Dude, it wasn’t like we were going to hear a verse from the point of view of the person who broke the singer’s heart. This wasn’t about them. 

The Reaction to the Reaction

But writers are what they eat. Every writer writes stories that are responses to what they’ve taken in as consumers: a fond homage or an opposite reaction or a correction or a new angle.

And while the break-up song genre was happening, other films and books kept on being made. Thrillers and mysteries continued on even as pop culture had its moment with the intimate, character driven story of a single mother who died and haunted an olive oil decanter on a strange family’s shelf for a decade, and they began to rub off on each other. 

Even as the trend of intimate stories passed, the character-driven nature of them left its mark. Readers and viewers no longer believed in the straightforward hero’s journey. No one was that simple. Batman got rebooted, James Bond got some consequences. Heroes got more and more morally gray. The world was getting more and more morally gray, too, after all, and narrative kept up. What was the price of privilege? What was the price of winning? Was this really a happy ending?

Narrative answered the question by glancing at the situation from other points of view, and those glances got longer and longer and longer. One POV became two. Became three. Became four. 

Ok, Back To the Marvel and Star Wars Thing

Became Marvel and Star Wars. Now we’re fully into Trend: Epic. We humans have done this trend before, where everyone’s larger than life and the stakes are sky high and your backyard is full of giants and whatnot. But now this trend is being informed by coming on the heels of the break-up song. Readers and viewers developed a taste for deep character development in our emo phase and now want it at the same time that they now hunger for huge casts. 

Previously, it’s a conundrum that would’ve been resolved by narrowing down the focus onto one person within that cast, digging down deep into their journey, and reducing everyone else to a secondary or tertiary character. Villain, love interest, comic relief.*

But that doesn’t satisfy the current trend of epic, of nuance, of a vast cast explored as deeply as possible. Viewers don’t want Poe to be simply a walk-on. They want villainous Loki to have as much of a character arc as heroic Thor. If a character is interesting, they want them handed a camera for as long as possible. And the more noble a hero seems, the more they want to see the skeletons in his closet, because no one believes in empty closets these days.  

*interestingly, I just saw Venom last week, a film everyone had been telling me was “old-fashioned,” and what it gave me was precisely that old model.

You can see the difference in the way narrative point of view is handled if you compare the original Star Wars trilogy with the current. The two are close cousins, intentionally so, which makes for easy comparison. It doesn’t take long to see how the original trilogy focused quite tightly on the trio of Luke, Leia, and Han, and pretty tightly on Luke even within that, versus the new film, which follows the trend of spreading the character development as thick and deep as possible amongst a large cast who shares story as equitably as possible.

You can also track it in the length of commercial films. You need a ton of room to develop character, and you can watch block busters get longer and longer as they eek minutes here and there for a touching flashback or a crushing personal revelation or final hand clasp. 

There’s a lot of pros to stories like this: there’s feels everywhere, as the internet says. We’re asked to engage emotionally with every storyline rather than intellectually. We’re given lots of characters to love. Empathy is pumped to all time high across the board. 

But there’s cons too: if a character arc doesn’t get enough time (and they can’t all, because there are so many going), the emotional beats can feel unearned and forced. We might feel like we’re going through the motions, landing on beats that we know ought to be there, and beats that we want to be there, but feeling dissatisfied with how we got there. 

It means that when it works, it works on an epic, massive, life shifting scale, everything snapping together with neat, agonizing emotion at the end.

It means that when it doesn’t work, we end up with empty spectacle that leaves us feeling disconnected and confused by why we didn’t love a thing that gave us everything we thought we wanted.

Oh God We’ve All Been Exposed!

I can feel it changing my narrative, too. At one point as I was working on Call Down the Hawk, the trilogy opener I mentioned up top, I realized that I’d spread my story too thin across characters. I was burning pages by the dozen as I tried to make sure they were all arcing in complicated, satisfying ways. When I shaved things down for pacing, I found myself with a skeletal, shallow plot outline. What the hell, I thought. You know better. Head-hopping is to be kept to a minimum. 

But not in 2019. You are what you eat, and I’d been eating a lot of media that sat right smack in the middle of this epic narrative structure. I had to sit back and ask myself: what is the story you actually want to tell? Pick your cameras and trust them. And then I cut my important arcs to two and pushed everyone else back to secondary and tertiary.

Because here’s the thing: I don’t actually care for the multi-cam break-up song epic thing we’ve got going on right now. The world’s making a lot of movies that aren’t really for me these days. I’m not too fussed about it because I know the reaction to the reaction to the reaction that comes around on the other side will probably swing it back my way, but for now, I leave the cinema with a shrug more often than not, and I put down a lot of novels.

But here’s the other thing:

Just Because You Don’t Like a Thing Doesn’t Mean It’s Bad

Sometimes it just means it’s not for you. 

At the beginning of all this I noted that the current story shape is going to feel like the default story shape to people coming of age now. Whatever was popular when you were coming of age is one of your default story shapes. 

The key to being an interesting and dynamic human is making sure that you’re curious and flexible enough to be willing to accept other shapes. You don’t have to like everything, but if you don’t want to become obsolete, you gotta at least give it a shot. We all know the person who only listens to the music from their childhood, who says “they don’t write books like they used to.” Don’t be that person. Before you shake your stick at the kids on your lawn and say “that sucks” maybe ask if it’s just not for you. 

And then wait a decade. ‘Cause it’ll come back around from the break up song to the epic to something totally different again and maybe to something that’s precisely your jam.

If not, no one’s stopping you from writing something that is.

‪One of the goals I’ve set myself to on my next art project is seeing if I can get better at making...

‪One of the goals I’ve set myself to on my next art project is seeing if I can get better at making digital media look like my traditional media- it would be cool to be faster, and digital definitely would make me faster.‬