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How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
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“sadly, the book of Job was but a speed bump on the Deuteronomic superhighway. The delusion of divine punishments still prevails inside and outside religion over the clear evidence of human consequences, random accidents, and natural disasters. This does not simply distort theology; it defames the very character of God.”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
“Throughout the biblical story, from Genesis to Revelation, every radical challenge from the biblical God is both asserted and then subverted by its receiving communities— be they earliest Israelites or latest Christians. That pattern of assertion-and-subversion, that rhythm of expansion-and-contraction, is like the systole-and-diastole cycle of the human heart.
In other words, the heartbeat of the Christian Bible is a recurrent cardiac cycle in which the asserted radicality of God’s nonviolent distributive justice is subverted by the normalcy of civilization’s violent retributive justice. And, of course, the most profound annulment is that both assertion and subversion are attributed to the same God or the same Christ.
Think of this example. In the Bible, prophets are those who speak for God. On one hand, the prophets Isaiah and Micah agree on this as God’s vision: “they shall beat their swords into plowshares, / and their spears into pruning hooks; / nation shall not lift up sword against nation, / neither shall they learn war any more” (Isa. 2:4 = Mic. 4:3). On the other hand, the prophet Joel suggests the opposite vision: “Beat your plowshares into swords, / and your pruning hooks into spears; / let the weakling say, ‘I am a warrior’” (3:10). Is this simply an example of assertion-and-subversion between prophets, or between God’s radicality and civilization’s normalcy?
That proposal might also answer how, as noted in Chapter 1, Jesus the Christ of the Sermon on the Mount preferred loving enemies and praying for persecutors while Jesus the Christ of the book of Revelation preferred killing enemies and slaughtering persecutors. It is not that Jesus the Christ changed his mind, but that in standard biblical assertion-and-subversion strategy, Christianity changed its Jesus.”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
In other words, the heartbeat of the Christian Bible is a recurrent cardiac cycle in which the asserted radicality of God’s nonviolent distributive justice is subverted by the normalcy of civilization’s violent retributive justice. And, of course, the most profound annulment is that both assertion and subversion are attributed to the same God or the same Christ.
Think of this example. In the Bible, prophets are those who speak for God. On one hand, the prophets Isaiah and Micah agree on this as God’s vision: “they shall beat their swords into plowshares, / and their spears into pruning hooks; / nation shall not lift up sword against nation, / neither shall they learn war any more” (Isa. 2:4 = Mic. 4:3). On the other hand, the prophet Joel suggests the opposite vision: “Beat your plowshares into swords, / and your pruning hooks into spears; / let the weakling say, ‘I am a warrior’” (3:10). Is this simply an example of assertion-and-subversion between prophets, or between God’s radicality and civilization’s normalcy?
That proposal might also answer how, as noted in Chapter 1, Jesus the Christ of the Sermon on the Mount preferred loving enemies and praying for persecutors while Jesus the Christ of the book of Revelation preferred killing enemies and slaughtering persecutors. It is not that Jesus the Christ changed his mind, but that in standard biblical assertion-and-subversion strategy, Christianity changed its Jesus.”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
“We humans are not getting more evil or sinful but are simply getting more competent and efficient at whatever we want to do--including sin as willed violence. And so, we have become, as Genesis 4 warned us inaugurally, steadily or even exponentially better and better at violence. And now, at last, that capacity threatens not just the family or the tribe, but the world and the Earth.”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
“The heart of God’s justice is to make sure that the “weak and the orphan” have received their share of God’s resources for them to live and thrive. Retributive justice comes in only when that ideal is violated.”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
“I glimpse again that biblical rhythm of expansion-and-contraction, assertion-and-subversion. As that rhythm becomes ever clearer as the very heartbeat of the biblical tradition, we will see the basic solution for How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian. Read it all carefully and thoughtfully, recognize radicality’s assertion, expect normalcy’s subversion, and respect the honesty of a story that tells the truth.”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
“The first and fundamental question of this book is this: How do we Christians know which is our true God— our Bible’s violent God, or our Bible’s nonviolent God? The answer is actually obvious. The norm and criterion of the Christian Bible is the biblical Christ. Christ is the standard by which we measure everything else in the Bible. Since Christianity claims Christ as the image and revelation of God, then God is violent if Christ is violent, and God is nonviolent if Christ is nonviolent.
This is even given in what we are called. We are called Christ-ians not Bible-ians, so our very name asserts the ascendancy of Christ over the Bible.”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
This is even given in what we are called. We are called Christ-ians not Bible-ians, so our very name asserts the ascendancy of Christ over the Bible.”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
“Imagine the upside-down triangle formed by the Anatolian plateau in the west, the Mesopotamian plain in the east, and the Egyptian valley in the south. Squeeze the sides of that triangle between the Mediterranean Sea and the Arabian desert, and there in the Levantine narrows is tiny Israel. It was the hinge of the three then-known continents of Europe, Asia, and Africa. It was the corridor, cockpit, and cauldron of imperial competition. With warring superpowers first to the north and south, then to the west and east, invasion for Israel was inescapable and defeat inevitable—despite Deuteronomy 28. If Israel had spent all of its life on its knees praying, the only change in its history would have been to have died—on its knees praying. It is a crime against both humanity and divinity to tell a people so located that a military defeat is a punishment from God. This holds also, but for different reasons, on disease and drought, famine and even earthquake. No wonder, therefore, that Israel’s Psalter is filled with cries for forgiveness and pleas for mercy. External invasions, internal famines, and any other disasters were not divine punishments for how the people of Israel lived its covenantal life with God, but human consequences of where the nation of Israel lived it.”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
“I have argued in this chapter that the Christian Bible presents us with a God of nonviolent distributive justice but also one of violent retributive justice.”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
“From House through Land to Earth it should always be a matter of distributive justice and restorative righteousness”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
“Put another way: justice is about the fair distribution of the subject involved. In the Bible, it is primarily about a fair distribution of God’s world for all of God’s people. For example, when the Bible cries out for justice, can one really think it is demanding retribution?”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
“distributive justice is the primary meaning of the word “justice” and that retributive justice is secondary and derivative.”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
“John Meier’s A Marginal Jew and my Historical Jesus as the front-page Christmas story in The New York Times for December 23, 1991. His story “Peering Past Faith to Glimpse the Jesus of History” was”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
“that reason and revelation or history and theology or research and faith—by whatever names—cannot contradict one another unless we have one or both wrong.”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
“But Genesis adds one very significant extra element in its summary of civilization’s Mesopotamian dawn. The mark of Cain becomes the mark of civilization.”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
“we are not “the People of the Book.” We are “the People with the Book,” but even more importantly, we are “the People of the Person.”
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
― How to Read the Bible and Still Be a Christian: Struggling with Divine Violence from Genesis Through Revelation
