Godless Quotes

“Scientists do not join hands every Sunday and sing "Yes gravity is real! I know gravity is real! I will have faith! I believe in my heart that what goes up, up, up must come down, down, down. Amen!" If they did, we would think they were pretty insecure about the concept.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“People are invariably surprised to hear me say I am both an atheist and an agnostic, as if this somehow weakens my certainty. I usually reply with a question like, 'Well, are you a Republican or an American?' The two words serve different concepts and are not mutually exclusive. Agnosticism addresses knowledge; atheism addresses belief. The agnostic says, 'I don't have a knowledge that God exists.' The atheist says, 'I don't have a belief that God exists.' You can say both things at the same time. Some agnostics are atheistic and some are theistic.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“Isn't atheism just another religion?' No, it isn't. Atheism has no creeds, rituals, holy book, absolute moral code, origin myth, sacred spaces or shrines. It has no sin, divine judgment, forbidden words, prayer, worship, prophecy, group privileges, or anointed 'holy' leaders. Atheists don't believe in a transcendent world or supernatural afterlife. Most important, there is no orthodoxy in atheism.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“There is no “universal moral urge” and not all ethical systems agree. Polygamy, human sacrifice, infanticide, cannibalism (Eucharist), wife beating, self-mutilation, foot binding, preemptive war, torture of prisoners, circumcision, female genital mutilation, racism, sexism, punitive amputation, castration and incest are perfectly “moral” in certain cultures. Is god confused?”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“Nor can the one day of suffering Jesus supposedly endured compare with the Holocaust, the genocide of Native Americans or the pain of those who were tortured during the Inquisition. His supposed contribution to the world hardly compares with the hard work, sacrifice and discipline of intelligent individuals who have dedicated their lives to science and medicine. Just because Jesus was considered a Higher Power does not make his alleged suffering any higher than yours or mine.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“The short life of Jesus can hardly compare with the suffering of brave heretics who have been persecuted for criticizing Christianity, or with the agony of the “witches” who were burned, drowned and hanged by bible believers (quoting Exodus 22:18: “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live”). Nor”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“Perhaps the funniest example is that of the Rev. Milton Barfoot, who said to Dan’s brother, in apparently honest bafflement, “But, isn’t Dan afraid of hell?” No, Reverend, Dan doesn’t believe in hell anymore, that’s one of the things about being an atheist, you see.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“Mithra’s birth was witnessed by shepherds and by Magi who brought gifts to his sacred birth-cave of the Rock. Mithra performed the usual assortment of miracles: raising the dead, healing the sick, making the blind see and the lame walk, casting out devils.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“In any event, how can the temporal sufferings of Jesus compare to the sufferings of the entire human race? Did Jesus ever experience the pain of childbirth? The billions of women going through labor are much more life giving, much more nurturing of value than a few hours of self-imposed bleeding on a cross. The”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“The Gospels, written many decades after the fact, are a blend of fact and fantasy—historical fiction—and although the proportions of the blend may differ from scholar to scholar, no credible historians take them at 100 percent face value.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“Why is there no governmental oversight of how public money is spent by these organizations and churches? Probably because there is an assumption that if it is religious, it must be good.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“Before returning to heaven, Mithra celebrated a Last Supper with his twelve disciples, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“The Greek god Dionysus was a man-god said to be the “Son of Zeus.” He was killed, buried, descended into hell, and rose from the dead to sit at the right hand of the father. His empty tomb at Delphi was long preserved and venerated by believers.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“Jesus supposedly lived sometime between 4 B.C.E. and 30 C.E., but there is not a single contemporary historical mention of Jesus, not by Romans or by Jews, not by believers or by unbelievers, not during his entire lifetime.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“But we exist now. We are caring, intelligent animals and can treasure our brief lives. Why is eternal better than temporal, or supernatural "higher" than natural? Doesn't rarity increase value? God is an idea, not a natural creature. Why should his "image" be more valuable than our own "nature?”
― Richard Dawkins, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“You can’t have the freedom to believe if you do not have the freedom not to believe.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“with hundreds of millions of good people believing that the illiterate Muhammad miraculously wrote the Koran.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“To sum up: 1) There is no external historical confirmation for the Jesus story outside of the New Testament. 2) The New Testament accounts are internally contradictory. 3) There are many other plausible explanations for the origin of the myth that do not require us to distort or destroy the natural worldview. 4) The miracle reports make the story highly suspect.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“Pagan mythical parallels can be found for almost every item in the New Testament: the Last Supper, Peter’s denial, Pilate’s wife’s dream, the crown of thorns, the vinegar and gall at the crucifixion, the mocking inscription over the cross, the Passion, the trial, Pilate’s washing of hands, the carrying of the cross, the talk between the two thieves hanging beside Jesus, and so on.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“The Gospel accounts cannot be considered historical, but even if they were, they tell us that the earliest biography of Jesus contains no resurrection!”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“The Gospel writers wanted to make of their hero nothing less than what was claimed of saviors of other religions: a king born of a virgin.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“Matthew is caught tinkering with the facts. His reliability as a historian is severely crippled.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“Bart Ehrman, in Misquoting Jesus, reminds us that there are more variants among the ancient documents than there are words in the New Testament.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“What does the number of copies have to do with authenticity?”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“Philo was born before the beginning of the Christian era, and lived until long after the reputed death of Christ. He wrote an account of the Jews covering the entire time that Christ is said to have existed on earth. He was living in or near Jerusalem when Christ’s miraculous birth and the Herodian massacre occurred. He was there when Christ made his triumphal entry into Jerusalem. He was there when the crucifixion with its attendant earthquake, supernatural darkness and resurrection of the dead took place—when Christ himself rose from the dead and in the presence of many witnesses ascended into heaven. These marvelous events which must have filled the world with amazement, had they really occurred, were unknown to him. It was Philo who developed the doctrine of the Logos, or Word, and although this Word incarnate dwelt in that very land and in the presence of multitudes revealed himself and demonstrated his divine powers, Philo saw it not.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“We think this is unconstitutional. Our secular government should not be promoting or funding religion.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“Luke says Jesus was born during a Roman census, and it is true that there was a census in 6 C.E.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“The Christ in Paul’s writings is a different character from the Jesus of the Gospels.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“Isn’t atheism just another religion?” No, it isn’t. Atheism has no creeds, rituals, holy book, absolute moral code, origin myth, sacred spaces or shrines. It has no sin, divine judgment, forbidden words, prayer, worship, prophecy, group privileges or anointed “holy” leaders. Atheists don’t believe in a transcendent world or supernatural afterlife. Most important, there is no orthodoxy in atheism. We don’t have to think or act alike. Allowing for differences of opinion is a sign of health. Montreal Gazette cartoonist Terry Mosher drew an editorial cartoon that said: “Here’s a headline we never see: Agnostics slaughter Atheists!”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists

“The best hope for the world is secular government. There are enough real causes of social conflict on this planet without the manufactured cause of religious divisiveness. In a democratic, egalitarian society, we should embrace the freedom to disagree about religious opinions, which also means we should denounce the freedom to ask our government to settle the argument. The government, at all levels, must diligently remain neutral. Working to keep state and church separate is a task that is crucial to preserving tolerance and peace, and the only way to have a “heaven on earth.” It is certainly a more practical mission than what I was doing for 19 years: trying to usher people into an imaginary heaven.”
― Dan Barker, Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists