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Hey, it's Arthur Weasley, or alternatively Father Brown.
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(1) '"You’re a clodpoll," said the girl, bitterly, "and a ninny, a numbskull, a lackwit and a coxcomb!"
"Yes," said Tristran. "I suppose I am at that."'
- Well, he is sorta enslaving her.
- I suppose this is the "enemy to lovers" trope I keep hearing about, but never actually noticed, as I don't read YA.
— May 05, 2021 12:10AM

Hey, it's Arthur Weasley, or alternatively Father Brown.
Notes:
(1) '"You’re a clodpoll," said the girl, bitterly, "and a ninny, a numbskull, a lackwit and a coxcomb!"
"Yes," said Tristran. "I suppose I am at that."'
- Well, he is sorta enslaving her.
- I suppose this is the "enemy to lovers" trope I keep hearing about, but never actually noticed, as I don't read YA.
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Notes:
(1) Well, I finished the book proper. This last bit's just an interview with Neil Gaiman, sort of bonus material for the audiobook.
(2) You know, through all these audiobook rereads, I always expect that my opinion would change over time, and that I'd give a different rating. But, each time, I've agreed entirely with my prior assessment.
(3) Next up, Coraline.
— May 17, 2021 11:50PM

Notes:
(1) Well, I finished the book proper. This last bit's just an interview with Neil Gaiman, sort of bonus material for the audiobook.
(2) You know, through all these audiobook rereads, I always expect that my opinion would change over time, and that I'd give a different rating. But, each time, I've agreed entirely with my prior assessment.
(3) Next up, Coraline.
Jayson
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Notes:
(1) Yvaine: "I just wanted to point out that we can probably never have children. That’s all."
- Sheesh! I forgot how much of downer the ending of this book is.
- Of course, in the film, the happy ending involves them having many children.
(2) In my first review, I wrote that this book didn't have a climax. Over the years I've questioned that. But I was 100% correct.
— May 16, 2021 11:40PM

Notes:
(1) Yvaine: "I just wanted to point out that we can probably never have children. That’s all."
- Sheesh! I forgot how much of downer the ending of this book is.
- Of course, in the film, the happy ending involves them having many children.
(2) In my first review, I wrote that this book didn't have a climax. Over the years I've questioned that. But I was 100% correct.
Jayson
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(1) '"I wish my mother were out," said the star. "I would say good-bye to her, first." And, awkwardly, she got to her feet.'
[Later]
'"Then ... you are not marrying Tristran Thorn?"
"No," said Victoria.
"Oh," said the star. "Good." And she sat down again.'
- And, thus, the most nonchalant suicide attempt and recovery in literature.
- As exciting as the "climax" gets.
— May 15, 2021 11:50PM

Notes:
(1) '"I wish my mother were out," said the star. "I would say good-bye to her, first." And, awkwardly, she got to her feet.'
[Later]
'"Then ... you are not marrying Tristran Thorn?"
"No," said Victoria.
"Oh," said the star. "Good." And she sat down again.'
- And, thus, the most nonchalant suicide attempt and recovery in literature.
- As exciting as the "climax" gets.
Jayson
is 85% done

Notes:
(1) '"You," [Louisa] told him, dabbing at her cheeks with the handkerchief, "have turned into a mop-haired raggle-taggle gypsy on your journeyings."'
- I guess "mop-haired raggle-taggle gypsy" is fairytale speak for "dirty hippie."
(2) In the book, Victoria needs to marry Tristran to honor their wager. In the film, it's because, upon his return, he looks totally hot.
— May 14, 2021 11:30PM

Notes:
(1) '"You," [Louisa] told him, dabbing at her cheeks with the handkerchief, "have turned into a mop-haired raggle-taggle gypsy on your journeyings."'
- I guess "mop-haired raggle-taggle gypsy" is fairytale speak for "dirty hippie."
(2) In the book, Victoria needs to marry Tristran to honor their wager. In the film, it's because, upon his return, he looks totally hot.
Jayson
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Notes:
(1) Ah, yes, this was during that phase when Robert De Niro decided he wanted to be a comic actor. So he did this, Meet the Parents and Rocky and Bullwinkle.
(2) "By temperament, Septimus was one of nature’s poisoners ... that was Septimus’s metier.
- A little on the nose with the irony, him being poisoned to death. Though, in the film he drowns.
— May 12, 2021 11:40PM

Notes:
(1) Ah, yes, this was during that phase when Robert De Niro decided he wanted to be a comic actor. So he did this, Meet the Parents and Rocky and Bullwinkle.
(2) "By temperament, Septimus was one of nature’s poisoners ... that was Septimus’s metier.
- A little on the nose with the irony, him being poisoned to death. Though, in the film he drowns.
Jayson
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Notes:
(1) One of the major disappointments of the book, provided you've seen the movie first, is the nature of the love affair. At least superficially, this is a bit of a romance novel. Indeed, the film is a rom-com. However, the part of the book where the two stop hating each other and grow closer is very brief, written in almost point-form, and with deliberate ambiguity.
— May 11, 2021 11:40PM

Notes:
(1) One of the major disappointments of the book, provided you've seen the movie first, is the nature of the love affair. At least superficially, this is a bit of a romance novel. Indeed, the film is a rom-com. However, the part of the book where the two stop hating each other and grow closer is very brief, written in almost point-form, and with deliberate ambiguity.
Jayson
is 70% done

Notes:
(1) In the book, the captain's name is Johannes Alberic, which is a fine enough pirate name. I have no idea why they changed it to Shakespeare for the film. Seems unnecessary.
(2) By this time in the film, Yvaine and Tristan are pretty much in love, whereas at this point in the book, Yvaine still hates Tristran. Merely one of the reasons why I find the film superior.
— May 10, 2021 11:30PM

Notes:
(1) In the book, the captain's name is Johannes Alberic, which is a fine enough pirate name. I have no idea why they changed it to Shakespeare for the film. Seems unnecessary.
(2) By this time in the film, Yvaine and Tristan are pretty much in love, whereas at this point in the book, Yvaine still hates Tristran. Merely one of the reasons why I find the film superior.
Jayson
is 65% done

Hey, it's David Brent, or alternatively... Ricky Gervais.
Notes:
(1) '"You saved my life," she said, eventually. "Didn’t you?"
"I suppose I must have done, yes."
"I hate you," she said. "I hated you for everything already, but now I hate you most of all."'
- Gee, there really is no pleasing some people.
- Awful deep hole for this enemies-to-loves trope to dig out of.
— May 09, 2021 11:50PM

Hey, it's David Brent, or alternatively... Ricky Gervais.
Notes:
(1) '"You saved my life," she said, eventually. "Didn’t you?"
"I suppose I must have done, yes."
"I hate you," she said. "I hated you for everything already, but now I hate you most of all."'
- Gee, there really is no pleasing some people.
- Awful deep hole for this enemies-to-loves trope to dig out of.
Jayson
is 60% done

Notes:
(1) Witch: "It’s been many a long year since I was maiden enough to touch a unicorn, and many a long year since such a one was seen in these parts."
- I never knew unicorns require proximity to maidenhood. I had a joke, but thought better.
(2) Witch: "I’ll bring you some mulled wine, and some sweet-roasted turnips."
- "Sweet roasted" anything sounds delicious.
— May 08, 2021 11:50PM

Notes:
(1) Witch: "It’s been many a long year since I was maiden enough to touch a unicorn, and many a long year since such a one was seen in these parts."
- I never knew unicorns require proximity to maidenhood. I had a joke, but thought better.
(2) Witch: "I’ll bring you some mulled wine, and some sweet-roasted turnips."
- "Sweet roasted" anything sounds delicious.
Jayson
is 55% done

Notes:
(1) The CGI holds up pretty well... in a video game sort of way.
(2) "Tristran Thorn was dreaming. He was in an apple tree, staring through a window at Victoria Forester, who was getting undressed. As she removed her dress, revealing a healthy expanse of petticoat, Tristran felt the branch begin to give way."
- Not her petticoat! Scrub my eyes clean for reading that!
— May 07, 2021 11:50PM

Notes:
(1) The CGI holds up pretty well... in a video game sort of way.
(2) "Tristran Thorn was dreaming. He was in an apple tree, staring through a window at Victoria Forester, who was getting undressed. As she removed her dress, revealing a healthy expanse of petticoat, Tristran felt the branch begin to give way."
- Not her petticoat! Scrub my eyes clean for reading that!
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May 05, 2021 12:45AM
A Match Made In Stockholm comes to mind.
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Juho wrote: "A Match Made In Stockholm comes to mind."Hmm, I don't know what that is. Something to do with Stockholm syndrome, I suppose. Possibly a movie title 🤷♂️
Stockholm Syndrome is the thing, yeah. Guy kidnaps the girl - or vice versa - and they fall in love.Stardust is even written down in the trope page.
Juho wrote: "Stockholm Syndrome is the thing, yeah. Guy kidnaps the girl - or vice versa - and they fall in love.Stardust is even written down in the trope page."
Ah, I see. Around these parts, though, I've only seen it referred to as the "enemies to lovers trope." Possibly YA readers haven't made their way to that particular trope page. 🤷♂️
Jayson wrote: "Possibly YA readers haven't made their way to that particular trope page."It's possible. I haven't read much YA myself either. But I do remember it also happening to Scrooge McDuck.
Juho wrote: "It's possible. I haven't read much YA myself either. But I do remember it also happening to Scrooge McDuck."Well, ducks aside, it's predominantly a YA thing these days.
Linda ~ they got the mustard out! ~ wrote: "Enemies to lovers is a popular romance trope, not just in YA. Stockholm syndrome need to apply."Glad to know it gets around. My point just is that YA readers talk about it A LOT... romance readers too, come to think of it. I'll amend my statement to include romance in this chatter.
Rachel wrote: "Honestly, enemies to lovers is so much more believable if the only reason why they hate each other's guts is 1) if one of them (or both) was incredibly rude, or 2) their families hate one another, ..."Huh... I didn't even know the "kidnapping to love trope" was a thing. Man, romance novels are weird.
I do appreciate you breaking this down for me. In this case, I'd say it's a little bit of reason 1 and a little bit of reason 3. The latter since no kidnapping was ever in the plans, as the star was only supposed to be a piece of rock.
Sophia wrote: "OR alternatively Horace from 101 Dalmatians (1996) "
Ha! That's nice gif, him with Dr. House (or alternatively George, the Prince Regent).
You know, the live-action 101 Dalmatians is one of those films where I think I saw it once on TV, and always meant to watch again, but never have. I should make a point of doing that one of these days :)
Jayson wrote: "You know, the live-action 101 Dalmatians is one of those films where I think I saw it once on TV, and always meant to watch again, but never have. I should make a point of doing that one of these days :)"It's one of those movies that are just goofy fun! You can put it on and not have to really think about it too much :)


