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Jun 22, 2010 11:53PM

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message 1: by Moira (new)

Moira YES, it does.


message 2: by unnarrator (new)

unnarrator BUGGER! What, in the words of Lenin, is to be done?!?


message 3: by Moira (new)

Moira unnarrator wrote: "BUGGER! What, in the words of Lenin, is to be done?!?"

REVOLUTION COMRADES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtU7ER...

....fuck, it pisses me off I can't embed videos here.


message 4: by unnarrator (new)

unnarrator We could revolt; but none of us know how to code. :o(


message 5: by Moira (last edited Jun 23, 2010 10:43AM) (new)

Moira unnarrator wrote: "We could revolt; but none of us know how to code. :o("

I CAN STILL DO A BLINK TAG

....hahaha or not.


message 6: by AB (new)

AB I am not fond of the eentsy-weentsy sidebar status update shenanigans, but the page numbers as percentage thingy is nice for us math-deficient people over here. She says meekly.


message 7: by Moira (new)

Moira AB wrote: "I am not fond of the eentsy-weentsy sidebar status update shenanigans, but the page numbers as percentage thingy is nice for us math-deficient people over here. She says meekly."

Yeah....it just seems to be getting a little Facebooky-with-books, and I already _have_ a facebook. Also, I personally really don't want pro reviews on the site, even links. //sulks


message 8: by unnarrator (new)

unnarrator I like the little percentagey thingy too—it would have been fun for IJ (well, though also hard to see any progress!)....it's just so teeny-tiny. For certain old folks who have the presbyopia and refuse to wear their computer glasses. Delicate cough, averted eyes.


message 9: by AB (new)

AB Heeeee hee hee hee.


message 10: by Moira (new)

Moira OH THANK GOD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THE PRINT IS TEENY

//feels a hundred


message 11: by AB (new)

AB I'm all harrumph-y because Watchmen doesn't have page numbers so I can't use the percentage thing. Uh, not that I'm, like, retentive about that stuff or anything.


message 12: by Moira (new)

Moira AB wrote: "I'm all harrumph-y because Watchmen doesn't have page numbers so I can't use the percentage thing. Uh, not that I'm, like, retentive about that stuff or anything."

I have no idea what you mean, because when I'm reading an edition I definitely don't check the GR entry to make sure my page numbers match it, nosirree.


message 13: by unnarrator (new)

unnarrator HAHAHAHAHAHA omg I love you guys. And I want a Team GR t-shirt. With teeny-weeny typeface.

Actually I am *still* lusting after an Enfield Tennis Academy t-shirt, and when am I going to just shut up and plunk down and GET one?

http://www.neighborhoodies.com/enfiel...


message 14: by unnarrator (new)

unnarrator PS I was going to be all triumphant "Hey AB you're awake in the daytime!" and then I realized that's because I didn't even wake up until 2 p.m. Totally dysregulated on new meds = ME.


message 15: by unnarrator (new)

unnarrator (And Mara is probably still asleep too, or napping, because SHE'S staying up all hours with her sweetie on business travel!)


message 16: by AB (new)

AB SPEAKING of t-shirts, Team GR needs to avail itself of the first little number ici: http://www.fussy.org/t-shirts

Un, HA! And this is the SECOND DAY IN A ROW that I've been mostly awake during daylight hours and I haven't even picked up the new dose of stimulant! yet, saints be praised. Though I did cave and have a nap at like 6 PM yesterday, but eh, minor detail. How are your crazepills?


message 17: by Moira (new)

Moira unnarrator wrote: "Actually I am *still* lusting after an Enfield Tennis Academy t-shirt"

OH MY GOD

WHY AM I BROKE
WHY
WHY


message 18: by Moira (new)

Moira Okay, this guy is kind of hott....



//facepalm

I woke up at six ayem I think. It was v disorienting. Because at like eleven I realized I had been up for a while.


message 19: by Mara (new)

Mara Oh, I was invoked!

It's not just dysregulation, it's lying awake wondering why he didn't message me at all for 36 hours even though I messaged him, and he sent out a general Twitter-message and a work related one... It's dumb little noises bringing me all awake multiple times in the night. I am totally not doing breast self-exams this week. Oh, and Aodan and I stayed up way too late watching Donnie Darko last night. Not, maybe, a good idea. But the consolation? Is that the littlest guys woke up and played quietly and then when I woke at 8:30 and lay in bed reading, my adorable firstborn walked to a coffee shop and brought me home a latte and this microwavable knish in bed, and then took his little brothers to a park to throw paper airplanes he had made for them.

The most messed up thing is that my brain is still buzzy either because of or in spite of sleep deprivation and I kind of like it. Ideas want to connect themselves. But I sort of worry next week I'll look at this week's hypergraphia and be all, what was I thinking?


message 20: by AB (new)

AB Why, why, WHY did I miss this comment, Mara. Donnie Darko! It's Invoking of Mary McDonnell Movies Day, yeah I said it!

Also, paper airplanes?! And microwaveable knish. I am dying of cute; that's all so Glass. Aodan +50.


message 21: by unnarrator (new)

unnarrator I am all pouty because I *totally* want to snuggle under an afghan with the Glass-Collinses and watch Donnie Darko until too late at night, rewinding it to figure out all the tricksy little time-paradox bits.

"I am totally not doing breast self-exams this week."

Nice job!! Keep up the good work of ignoring little noises in the night. <8


message 22: by unnarrator (new)

unnarrator PS my crazypills make me eat, which is awesome; but the sleeping is still wonky. I may need to add Lunesta? I can't keep using benzos for sleepers, that much is clear. Like, see, like now for example. It is 11:15, a time when Many People might be yawning and brushing teeth etc. But me? Oh no. Me begins the brain to churn out and froth up and bubble over with words. Which, as Mara has observed, are they good words, bona dicta? Or are they that goat's milk that my mom and I (when I was maybe nine) shook in a glass mason jar for hours and hours, wondering where was the butter, not knowing goat's milk is naturally homogenized?

Is it like that, these words? Sappho:

Words made of air
I begin
But words good to hear



message 23: by Mara (new)

Mara Yeah, furtherance of this week's obsession with anosognosia, which thanks a lot. And I link it back to Russell's paradox because I am perverse and also insomniac. But to what authority can we appeal? Are these good words turns out also to be a behind-the-curtain inadmissible question which I think is why I am left with Faith because everything else has fallen away.


message 24: by unnarrator (last edited Jun 25, 2010 11:54PM) (new)

unnarrator Dumb poet, I fergit what is Russell's paradox? And yes I find it BEYOND IRONIC that my future-former-boyfriend is posting all about anosognosia, hahahahahahaOMG does he not SEE of course not, because you don't see what you don't see. So he doesn't see it.

But what if I don't see what he sees? AGH crazymaking, this is why we have sponsors and friends. Those who, as VW said, can hold up the mirror to the backs of our heads.

Faith isn't the worst thing we could be left with, at the bottom of the box, after all the evils and sufferings flap out and buzz away into the night air.

SO insomniac. I must drug meself now to sleep at all, I fear.


message 25: by Moira (new)

Moira unnarrator wrote: "I find it BEYOND IRONIC that my future-former-boyfriend is posting all about anosognosia, hahahahahahaOMG does he not SEE of course not, because you don't see what you don't see. So he doesn't see it"

Ooooooooh dear. (I have such a crush on Errol Morris, ha.)

Faith isn't the worst thing we could be left with, at the bottom of the box, after all the evils and sufferings flap out and buzz away into the night air.

Did you have the D'Aulaire's book of myths as a kid? With all the horrible flying things in the illustration to that myth? I was always terrorized by the thing that looked like an airborne sponge.


message 26: by unnarrator (new)

unnarrator Moira wrote: "I was always terrorized by the thing that looked like an airborne sponge."

AHAHA, I don't remember that, nor which edition/version I had; but do remember something in the engraving with a very long wicked-looking curved sting. :o(


message 27: by Mara (new)

Mara Dude didn't even get into folie a deux with the series, though I copied out the Dunning quote about the path to self-knowledge lying through other people.

Russell's was sets of all sets that do not contain themselves. Not really relevant, except that the meta-stuff always gets self-referential and then paradoxical, knowledge about knowledge etc. guess I spent years using philosophy books as non-pharmacological sleep aids. Sigh.


message 28: by Moira (new)

Moira unnarrator wrote: "Dumb poet, I fergit what is Russell's paradox?"

I live with a former philosophy major and math geek and he just went off about the set of all sets that do not include themselves and when I said 'but what IS that' sets containing members not itself set not a member of itself yada yada and I said again 'but what IS THAT' because I iz dumm English major he said 'Do you remember the thing about the barber and - ' 'OH THAT.'

(Mind you I still don't know what the fuck the sets thing is about but I remembered the barber.)

FUN FACT: I do believe the volume the young lady is reading in Woolf's Voyage Out (or is it Night and Day?) is the Principia Mathematica.


message 29: by unnarrator (new)

unnarrator I made some sort of stab (as in, a running assault with a butter knife) at Principia when I were beating my dumm poet brain against symbolic logic/Wittgenstein. Basically my advisor was all, how you gonna understand Tractatus if you can't understand Russell and Quine? And he had a Point. So I suddenly decided I would write an ORIGINAL CREATIVE THESIS OF POETRY my goodness look over there! tra-la-la, hey nonny nonny.

So I don't even know about the barber. :o( I'm sure my stupid MENS could tell me about it, if he hadn't MOVED OUT ON ME, oh don't get me started oh that's right no one did.

But: he and his sponsor = folie à drunks? Because how in the WORLD can what he's proposing be "a sane and sound ideal for our future sex life"?

Don't worry, I just took both vitamins K and Z, I'll shut up directly. It's worst at night, the rumination/obsession. And when I'm driving. Well, okay, it's bad any time I'm not actively helping someone else or trying to do something complicated, like look for that little LJ macro/avatar of DIES AND IZ DED which has somehow mysteriously disappeared off the internet?

I can't believe checkout is at 10 am tomorrow morning, that's just, that's just UN-AMERICAN.


message 30: by Moira (new)

Moira I made some sort of stab (as in, a running assault with a butter knife) at Principia when I were beating my dumm poet brain against symbolic logic/Wittgenstein

AAAAAAAHAHAHA I helped edit/proofread a friend's senior thesis on Wittgenstein when I was a junior. WITTGENSTEIN + KANT, that's like those two things in lab class you were never supposed to mix. No wonder I dropped out.

So I don't even know about the barber

OMFG, I remember this so badly, but: there is a town in Spain (why Spain I don't know) so small there is just one male barber. (The history of mathematics might have been different were it a female barber. Barbera? Barberatrix? Barberess? BUT ANYWAY.) All the men in the tiny little town either shave themselves or are shaven by the barber. So the barber shaves everyone who doesn't shave himself, right? (This is just why I dislike logical setups.) So does the barber shave himself, or not? OMG PARADOX WHEN IS A DOOR NOT A DOOR STAR TREK COMPUTER MELTDOWN SPARKS FLYING because, if the barber does not shave himself (as a man who is not the barber would do), then he must shave himself as the barber. But the barber shaves men who do not shave themselves. So he cannot shave himself SPARKS FLYING QED It is something something set theory Goedel something, and this is about the point where I give up on mathematics and philosophy in disgust as a poor job and read Keats instead. 'Well of course the set doesn't include itself, you set it up' (HAW HAW) 'to do that.' 'But see, it's important because - ' 'But it means nothing because you SET OUT TO DO THAT.' 'No no, because - ' 'Do you mind? Keats and I are scheduled for a little necking, here.'

he and his sponsor = folie à drunks? Because how in the WORLD can what he's proposing be "a sane and sound ideal for our future sex life"?

Did the sponsor SAY that? DDDDDDDD:

It's worst at night, the rumination/obsession

Yeah, that happens to me, too. I sweartogod my brane has a little switch that gets flipped up to 'OVERLOAD' after 10 PM at night. It can take me until 1 or 2 ayem to get settled down (and then I'm ready for bed at 4 or 5! FAIL).


message 31: by Moira (new)

Moira Actually, I like the Wiki (O SHAME) catalogue example a lot better.

Suppose that every public library has to compile a catalog of all its books. The catalog is itself one of the library's books, but while some librarians include it in the catalog for completeness, others leave it out, as being self-evident.

Now imagine that all these catalogs are sent to the national library. Some of them include themselves in their listings, others do not. The national librarian compiles two master catalogs - one of all the catalogs that list themselves, and one of all those that don't.

The question is now, should these catalogs list themselves? The 'Catalog of all catalogs that list themselves' is no problem. If the librarian doesn't include it in its own listing, it is still a true catalog of those catalogs that do include themselves. If he does include it, it remains a true catalog of those that list themselves.

However, just as the librarian cannot go wrong with the first master catalog, he is doomed to fail with the second. When it comes to the 'Catalog of all catalogs that don't list themselves', the librarian cannot include it in its own listing, because then it would belong in the other catalog, that of catalogs that do include themselves. However, if the librarian leaves it out, the catalog is incomplete. Either way, it can never be a true catalog of catalogs that do not list themselves.


AND NO SEXIST CRAP ABOUT BARBERS, YAYZ. JUST BOOKS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%...


message 32: by unnarrator (new)

unnarrator I want to respond to all this smartness but my ORIGINAL SERIES STAR TREK HOTTIE-ANDROID-IN-A-PLUNGING-SILVER-LAMÉ-GOWN PEABRAIN HAS JUST MELTERED OMGWTF.

Somehow I'd managed a whole semester-long independent study on Wittgy, but to be fair a great deal of it was spent with the Jarman film, the Monk biography, and falling asleep on one of the dorm living-room sofas with, like, The Blue and the Brown Books, or Philosophical Investigations spread over my face like a newspaper, and then dreaming strange poems/language-games. It's crazy what liberal arts colleges used to let you get away with. Actual wild reading and writing.

God only knows what his sponsor is saying; I don't even want to know. I just wonder from time to time (obsessively, usually weeping) if anyone is putting any checks and/or balances on this whole wacky "polyamory" bright idea. I'm putting scare quotes around it because that word he keeps using? I do not think it means what he thinks it means.

Hey, where'd insomniac Mara go? and Alicia? oh this is most uncharacteristic!


message 33: by Moira (last edited Jun 26, 2010 10:04AM) (new)

Moira unnarrator wrote: "ORIGINAL SERIES STAR TREK HOTTIE-ANDROID-IN-A-PLUNGING-SILVER-LAMÉ-GOWN PEABRAIN HAS JUST MELTERED OMGWTF.

BRAIN, BRAIN, WHAT IS BRAIN????!!!!

Somehow I'd managed a whole semester-long independent study on Wittgy,

WITTGY, THAT IS AWESOME. Or you could call him 'Steffl,' like one friend of mine did, after Stephansdom in Vienna.

the Jarman film, the Monk biography, and falling asleep on one of the dorm living-room sofas with, like, The Blue and the Brown Books, or Philosophical Investigations spread over my face like a newspaper, and then dreaming strange poems/language-games

....aww, that's lovely. (I LOVE that biography. Have mainly seen clips of the film on YouTube but I have the screenplay!)

I'm putting scare quotes around it because that word he keeps using? I do not think it means what he thinks it means."

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude I have friends who are into that (it is one of those things that is, respectfully, Not For Me) and noooo, for one thing, they talk about stuff like trust and honesty and checking with your partner and radical crap like that! WILD ISN'T IT


message 34: by unnarrator (new)

unnarrator Some children he tutored in, I think, Britain? apparently *did* call him Vicky. So I am but transliterating it more appropriately. ;o)

Do you know, my mom and I still say to each other, "Brain, brain—what is brain?!" when we do something dorky. She said it to me like DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY, how weird is that.

You ALL gots to watch this NOW (speaking of how wild isn't it):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZWaWr...


message 35: by AB (new)

AB Man, Goodreads stopped sending these notifications to me, like, two days ago. Do whatever you want with the font size in your status feeds, Goodreads, but otherwise, MAN UP.

(Hi, y'all.)


message 36: by Moira (new)

Moira AB wrote: "Man, Goodreads stopped sending these notifications to me, like, two days ago"

Dude, I dunno what the fuck it is, sometimes I get them and sometimes I don't. WTF.

(Hi!)


message 37: by AB (new)

AB P.S. It's kind of a comfort to know that William Shatner has always been so... Shatner.


message 38: by Moira (new)

Moira unnarrator wrote: "You ALL gots to watch this NOW (speaking of how wild isn't it)"

//dies Oh FANTASTIC. Did you see this one? It's my favourite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deQuFc...


message 39: by Moira (new)

Moira AB wrote: "P.S. It's kind of a comfort to know that William Shatner has always been so... Shatner."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yerCi... !

There's an earlier one in b&w where he does Caesar straight, but I can't find it.


message 40: by unnarrator (new)

unnarrator AB wrote: "P.S. It's kind of a comfort to know that William Shatner has always been so... Shatner."

Always! He must've been the hammiest little toddler ever.


message 41: by unnarrator (new)

unnarrator PS is this the part where I admit (a second time, I think) that I actually kind of liked him in The Brothers K, that version with Yul Brynner? Or, well, I think I last saw it 20 years ago. But I was quite taken with it at the time. Okay, actually, pretend you never read any of this. I'd have to check it out somehow to see if it's still true and I'm going to breakfast with ALLYSON and another cool friend, so must get dressed and out the door!


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