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"The elderly weren't gods. But they were closest to the ancestral sources of authority, and unlike the honored dead, they were still alive"
"Earlier societies were not devoted to innovation; facsimile reproduction, from one generation to the next, took pride of place."
Is this idea fundamentally wrong? In moderation we should place some deference on those who came before.
— Oct 06, 2026 11:00AM
"Earlier societies were not devoted to innovation; facsimile reproduction, from one generation to the next, took pride of place."
Is this idea fundamentally wrong? In moderation we should place some deference on those who came before.
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Jacob
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Moyn argues for or gives credence to abolishing the Senate, the Electoral College, lowering the voting age, implementing term and age limits and possibly giving children votes (either directly or by proxy).
These are radical changes, essentially altering the entire makeup of US politics, not to mention extremely unlikely barring some sort of communist revolution.
— 5 hours, 25 min ago
These are radical changes, essentially altering the entire makeup of US politics, not to mention extremely unlikely barring some sort of communist revolution.
Jacob
is on page 107 of 288
"It is simply by showing up (to local govt meetings) that elderly advocacy and self-advocacy do most of the damage." Moyn goes on to illustrate that this advocacy affects housing/zoning policy (ie NIMBYs are older, more established homeowners focused on their preservation). This is more of a generational issue, no?
— Oct 07, 2026 01:51PM
Jacob
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"The AARP's default goal for decades has bene not so much big gerontocratic change as a gerontocratic status quo."
"The irony and the shame are that the AARP hasn't been a cause group for the remaining elderly poor, due to its conservative and self-preservative instincts."
Again, not so much gerontocracy, but a oligarchic gerontocracy. Although I guess that would not be as good a title.
— Oct 07, 2026 01:48PM
"The irony and the shame are that the AARP hasn't been a cause group for the remaining elderly poor, due to its conservative and self-preservative instincts."
Again, not so much gerontocracy, but a oligarchic gerontocracy. Although I guess that would not be as good a title.
Jacob
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"politically (AARP) was in the right place at the right time as the great aging created legitimate new needs."
— Oct 07, 2026 01:42PM
Jacob
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The AARP "demonstrates that older priorities have been normalized at all levels of government [...] The organization is also emblematic of the potent self-advocacy of elders in local government, which goes unnoticed but is having profound effects on neighborhoods everywhere." Yes, but the AARP is an org that has purely benefitted from the sheer amount of Baby Boomers. Not the entirety of elderly. This is different
— Oct 07, 2026 01:40PM
Jacob
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"The elderly have captured the political system". Read, the Boomers have captured the political system.
— Oct 07, 2026 01:35PM
Jacob
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Moyn's usage of the stat that 20 percent of Dem campaign staffers "come from seven universities" is an interesting figure. He uses it to prove the domination of gerontocratic politics, but doesn't this mean that this is a new crop of (probably wealthy) elites gaining their way to power? It's not exactly proving his point nor does it convince me.
— Oct 07, 2026 01:34PM
Jacob
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"Bush's primarying (in 2024) also had gerontocratic roots. It is in foreign policy that the younger and older Americans is clearest". While yes, this is true, there is more to it. Bush was painted as a radical, and while young, had more issues with the behemoth AIPAC group.
It's not to say AIPAC isn't supported by old money, but let's not do correlation = causation. This is another form of rich people's interest.
— Oct 07, 2026 01:31PM
It's not to say AIPAC isn't supported by old money, but let's not do correlation = causation. This is another form of rich people's interest.
Jacob
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"The effect of all this is gerontocratic for a simple reason. Evan a young person in office is doing the bidding of the same donors who once propped up the old guy. [...] The younger politicians who inherit their seats are serving the same old money"
But this old money is the culmination of affluent family fortunes. It is not the case of simply "old people rich", but that the rich serve their own interests sans age.
— Oct 07, 2026 01:21PM
But this old money is the culmination of affluent family fortunes. It is not the case of simply "old people rich", but that the rich serve their own interests sans age.
Jacob
is on page 95 of 288
Moyn actually describes this "It's a young face for old interests."
I'm not one to defend Baby Boomers, but doesn't this counteract the idea of America being gerontocratic? Could it not also be oligarchic or rather influenced by major wealth disparity?
— Oct 07, 2026 01:18PM
I'm not one to defend Baby Boomers, but doesn't this counteract the idea of America being gerontocratic? Could it not also be oligarchic or rather influenced by major wealth disparity?

