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Conseguir ter um orgasmo é a única garantia de conseguir amar, por isso é que os meninos são malvados(não os teem, porque os orgasmos ex-iste); Orgasmo masculino can be spoken of easily, delimitado, cresce verticalmente logo cria meaning, secreta, explode, materializa, liberta, endurece e acaba, fim e início linear: Baudrillard Explosion = outward expansion of meaning, power, and social energy;Orgasmo feminino
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Conseguir ter um orgasmo é a única garantia de conseguir amar, por isso é que os meninos são malvados (não os teem, orgasmo que ex-iste)
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More simply, someone who wants a woman will wish to be the object of her dreams; if the two dreams only rarely coincide, they are no less necessary to the life of the desire. At a time when men were gallant, passionate courting was conceivable only where the lover was assured that the object of his flame was playing the role of a frightfully reticent woman. Do we imagine today gallantly courting a liberated woman?This is the way we should understand the formula that the other is necessary to sustain desire. Philo, on the other hand, is captive of his unique passion and is fundamentally ignorant of the other as desiring. And yet, in order for his own desire to live, the other is necessary. In this impasse he will make use of anything at all to create a fancied other, the illusory support of a sterile desire. To give to the inanimate object the appearance of life, to make it live and die, to care for it, then to destroy it, such is the derisory game to which Philo is reduced. The obsessional’s object is invested with this essential function of otherness.
Without an industrious activity to sustain it, the dream may well evaporate, and Death then threatens to bear witness to the truth. In order to avoid this ruin, the obsessional ceaselessly takes up the exhausting work of reducing the living to nothing and of giving to others the impression of an ephemeral life.
This impossible quest for the other remains the most notable characteristic of the obsessional’s desire.
Thus the circle is closed: the desire that was prematurely satisfied is substituted for the demand; it remains isolated in a solitary daydream peopled with shadows, calling ceaselessly to the other, excluded yet necessary.
This is how Philo’s desire manifests itself in the analysis.
We will have to conclude now.
I recently finished "Philo," and I have some questions on why this case is categorized as obsessional neurosis. Is this case not a case of perversion instead? For some examples, there is the incomplete instatement of the paternal function, Philo's experience of himself as the instrument of the jouissance, or maybe object of desire or demand, of the mother, eroticized transference, and a desire to encounter or register Otherness.This is a transcription of a speech in 1958, so wasn't the Lacanian conception of perversion (which seems to me to still be debated and revised amongst a lot of Lacanians) not really formulated and utilized by that point?
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I see nobody has tried to answer this, so I will try it. As Žižek puts it, a pervert has no doubts or uncertainties. They are the phallus and they have no doubt about it. An obsessional, by contrast, is plagued by doubt. One psychoanalyst, in a discussion of Leclaire's cases, puts it this way: "But on the other hand the obsessional is beset with uncertainty. Doubt, questioning, and a desire that appears eternally unfulfilled or unreachable are well-recognised hallmarks of the obsessional’s character". The Obsessional Subjunctive. In other words, while that obsessional does not give up on trying to be the phallus, they don't have the same confidence that a pervert has.
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Sygne (analysand) keeps hunting for analysts representatives of unconscious desire, reading his looks, his silences, his previous books and family history etc, but not to appease her desire, as might be thought, but to find bodily consistency for the words haunting her (qua women being in closer relation to the experience of castration via lesser 2 repression): “Invited to speak her peace, sooner or later, a woman will inevitably express what speaking means for her, namely, that there is jouissance. As I stated in Chapter 2, “for the woman, not only do words, above and beyond their signifying functions, keep their value as unconscious representatives, as signifiers of jouissance, which will constitute her woman’s word. In the immediacy of her connection to castration, she also finds support for a process of properly sexual identification that first specifies her as woman before any secondary identification of a trait or figure as belonging to womanhood.” What she expects from analysis is what a man of today, for whom identification with ideology’s representations takes the place of a sexual position, seems most often unable to give her by the mere homage of his power: the recognition of the essential truth of her words as a woman. What a woman wants is first of all a man’s recognition of her woman’s words, since its durability is not originally guaranteed by any repression. Essentially, her words retain their position of unconscious representative (signifier) and only incidentally enter the system of meanings. They are the stars and glorious bodies of the phallic system and can speak of nothing more than the shadowy place of any body’s objects. She expects man’s discourse to pin to a screen of repression the signifier of her glory in the flesh and have it be his hope of seeing a piece of the sky.Just as she does with numbers in her work, Sygne in analysis uses words to speak of love. The breathless round of signifiers she sets in motion speaks of nothing but her pain, or rather, her jouissance in suffering( The primary model of histericak dissatisfaction). She is not fooled by it. Her wish to rest her head in my hand and lean her body against mine is not—at least she says as much without further denial—to appease her desire; rather, it is to find bodily consistency and anchor for the words haunting her, a shaded, cool spot for the fires of truth consuming her. When catching hold of the signifiers she imagines (most often rightly) to be those of my desiring phantasies, she is not merely asking me not to disown them but also to be faithful to them.”
it is as if the constellation of my unconscious representatives, set like jewels on the screen of all my repressions, could give her support by recognizing her as Sygne
I have no doubt that some doctors of psychoanalysis would tell me that I should have received her in a more bare office, that I should not have released my writings as I have done, and that paying closer attention to the analyst’s legendary discretion would have spared Seghin her entanglement in a transferential rapport that will have a very hard time terminating. Besides loving this term, I refuse to believe that an experience of truth can ever be erased. Transparency is such an experience, and so is transference love.It is not merely my supposed indulgence that allows Seghin to grasp the signifiers of my desire. My accepting her into analysis is an invitation to speak, and she goes without detour to the end of what she has to say: her jouissance in suffering. In so doing, she loves the person who invites her to speak and lets her speak. Everybody knows that the most definite symptom of love is the acuity that enables the lover to go to the heart of the loved one’s signifiers, however strong the resistance.
Now let us suppose that, following Breuer’s example, I were to indulge a reaction of withdrawal in the face of a woman’s love and labor to convince her of its illusory or pathological nature. My interventions, even if pertinent and sober, could only be taken for what they would in fact be: a blunt refusal, a way of telling her that even in analysis a woman’s words of jouissance have no place. Nothing seems more essential to me in analytic practice than refusing to take part in this sort of betrayal. Of course, I do not fail to ask Seghin about her former lovers,
Now I would be in bad faith if I pretended that Cygne, to speak here only of her, leaves me cold. In this love story, my whole life resonates harmonically, not only my loves, women's words or silences inscribed in my body, children, but also my interests in analysis, my questioning the origin of speaking, my work on the discourse of oppression, my quest for half the sky. Does this mean that I love her? No, that is to say, not really, but it could have been outside analysis.
What is extraordinary about the analytical adventure is revealed in this meeting between the discoverer and his true object, love, which is to say, a woman's word, a strange and familiar woman's voice.
By the way, what is the sex of analysts? Do they have one? The question is worth submitting to the next council. Today, the prevailing opinion is that indeed they do, but that it doesn’t matter as long as they have ears. The answer might as well be no. I can’t resign myself to this. To maintain that an analyst’s sex has no immediate bearing on his or her practice would be tantamount to turning the analytical function into a sort of priesthood, placing the analyst beyond the plurality of the spoken word, especially the duality of masculine and feminine voices. I know that the fantasy of a universal discourse is indestructible. This is because it upholds what is most derisory in men’s claims to virility. But I think I have shown sufficiently how the temptation of a universal discourse is part and parcel of the work of repression in that it is never anything but an attempt at subsuming all the modes of repression. Let us recall just how much this enterprise turns out to be masculine, since for lack of an immediate connection with castration, which for woman essentially determines her identification as sexual, a man will find sexual identification by breaking with the process of repression that he inevitably leans on for support. The superfluous and pitiful I am a man is always marked by some spectacular violence against the order to which he is a secret accomplice. Just as there is no metalanguage, there is no Esperanto of sex, in other words, no pseudo-analytic discourse capable of going beyond difference. Quite the contrary, what we call analytical discourse promotes another logic from the unconscious. It is fine by taking castration, connection to the phallus, into account, and castration is what determines sexual identity in speaking beings. Analytical discourse leaves to each and everyone, starting with analysts, the task of knowing from whence he speaks.
To each figure it’s own traps but to each its own promise of truth: the hope for a voice to be born is always there
“On the other hand, through the repetition of the literal articulation, he seems to reach bliss (jouir) in the effect of production or engendering that is correlative to the stringing together of the literal terms, as if the articulation of this secret name caused him each time to be born (or reborn) from his own head, on his own initiative, into the world of language and into his own subjectivity. In a word, we could say that Philippe, through the use of the secret formula, attempts each time to annex for himself the scene of his own conception and that he thus rediscovers his primal scene as often as he impugns it.What Philippe is trying fundamentally to impugn so as to feign mastering it is, in fact, the very dimension of the other’s desire, inasmuch as he was no doubt prematurely its object, beneficiary, victim, and remainder. A castoff of paternal desire who finds his only landmark in the maker’s mark of the name of the too-soon-departed Jérémie,¹⁵ an object abandoned to the mother’s devouring desire, Philippe, as designated in his derisive formula, will from now on have no other concern than to defend against the other’s desire, to contest the other as desiring, which is to say to take the other for dead or nonexistent.
For he thinks he knows by experience that if he lets himself recognize the other it would mean falling once again (and perhaps this time without any recourse) into the gulf of lack that makes of him someone who desires, where he would be once again toppled, devoured, suffocatingly fulfilled.
This is the impasse of Philippe’s desire, which the complete analysis of the dream with the unicorn reveals in its phantasmatic ordering.”
The apparent paradox you noticed is real, but it is a Lacanian one, not a mistake in the text. The confusion comes from assuming that all “lack” functions in the same way. Leclaire is very precise about the kind of lack Philippe is dealing with.In Lacanian theory, symbolic lack, the lack introduced by castration and the Name-of-the-Father, creates space. It allows breathing room, separation, and the circulation of desire. This is the lack that makes desire possible and livable. It separates the subject from the Other’s desire and prevents engulfment.
This is not the kind of lack Philippe experiences. For Philippe, falling into lack means falling back into the position of being the object of the Other’s desire. It means losing separation and being reabsorbed by a devouring maternal desire. In this situation, he is lacking as a subject, but filled as an object. That is why Leclaire can describe this fall into lack as being devoured and suffocatingly fulfilled without contradiction.
When Leclaire writes that Philippe would fall into “the gulf of lack that makes of him someone who desires,” this lack is not a clean symbolic lack. It is a lack without mediation, one in which Philippe becomes what is lacking for the Other. In other words, he does not experience lack as an open space that allows desire to circulate, but as a collapse into jouissance. This is a fullness that is deadly, not liberating.
Desire requires lack plus separation. Jouissance appears when separation collapses. Philippe fears that recognizing the Other as desiring would pull him back into the position of the object that completes the Other, erasing the symbolic gap and producing a suffocating fullness. He would be fulfilled in the sense of being overdetermined by the Other, but suffocated because there is no lack left to breathe.
This is why Leclaire can say that Philippe would be toppled, devoured, and suffocatingly fulfilled at the same time. It is not a contradiction but a precise description of jouissance rather than desire.
For this reason, Philippe’s defensive solution is to deny the Other’s desire altogether, to take the Other as dead or nonexistent. If the Other does not desire, then Philippe cannot be swallowed by that desire. However, the cost of this defense is that true desire becomes impossible. What remains is repetitive jouissance, tied to the letter, the formula, and the phantasm, forming a closed circuit.
This is what Leclaire names the impasse of Philippe’s desire.
Now here’s the crucial point: an obsessional can construct defenses that mimic psychotic solutions without being psychotic.What Philippe is doing — denying the Other as desiring, taking the Other as dead or nonexistent — is not foreclosure. It’s an obsessional strategy. He is actively defending against the Other’s desire, not structurally unable to symbolize it.
That’s why Leclaire uses phrases that sound psychotic — devouring, suffocation, engulfment — but still treats this as a neurotic impasse revealed in the phantasm. The terror Philippe has of being swallowed is real, but the fact that he can stage it in fantasy, articulate it in language, and bind it to a letter-formula tells you the symbolic order is still functioning.
In psychosis, you don’t get this kind of phantasmatic staging in the same way. You get intrusion, certainty, and phenomena that don’t require interpretation because they are not symbolic metaphors — they are lived as real. Lacan says more than once that obsession is a way of keeping psychosis at bay. The obsessional’s entire economy can be read as a massive effort to prevent the collapse of separation from the Other.
That’s why the maternal dimension looms so large here. An overbearing or engulfing maternal desire does not automatically produce psychosis, but it massively pressures the subject to invent defenses.


This arrangement of experience, conditioned by anatomical givens, leaves woman disposed to an unmediated relationship to the workings of castration. She therefore finds herself on the same level with the process of original repression and invests little in the process of secondary repression (repression proper). The consciously rejected representations constituting the repressed of the “secondary” unconscious count less for her than the representatives of the “primary” unconscious (that of original repression). More precisely, all her experience confirms her—if she does not inopportunely deny it—in an acknowledgement of the “loss,” that is to say of the determining primacy of the unconscious representation in the face of which the prestige of the conscious representation pales along with the conceptual apparatus it produces. For the woman, not only do words, above and beyond their signifying function, keep their value as unconscious representatives, as signifiers of jouissance, which will constitute her woman’s word. In the immediacy of her connection to castration, she also finds support for a process of properly sexual identification that first and unconsciously specifies her as woman before any secondary identification of a trait or figure as belonging to womanhood.
On the contrary, for the man the experience of the phallic phase and its decline provides a break in the homogeneity of the series of losses: it is easy for him, confident in his possession of the penis, to fool himself and be persuaded that the phallus is not lost to everyone and that he, like all men, possesses it. The effect of this inevitable confusion is simple: it will intensify and confirm the secondary repression through which the truth of castration, as attested by unconscious representatives, will be more firmly denied and will furthermore ward off the infantile fear of losing the penis. The man’s discourse, thus constituted as a discourse of secondary repression (in the common sense of the word) is clearly ordered then as the refusal of castration and misrecognition of the unconscious and therefore as a mode of exile from jouissance. Whatever the facts, confident in the tenacious illusion of not being castrated and of being in some way, since he has a penis, the possessor of the phallus, the man will insist on the primacy of conscious representations and the signifying values of words. He will elaborate conceptual systems with the ineradicable pretension of producing a universal discourse whose only function, in fact, is to occult the truth of unconscious discourse and the immovable radicalness of castration. Only repeated collisions against the “rock of castration” will force…