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Catherine wrote: "I am not "Metal" head! There are other types of music guys!! haha"

No there's not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJuO-...

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Niklas wrote: "Swedish Xian metal > Norwegian black metal"

[getting stuff back on metal=topic]

I've gotta say, Sweden had a much bigger impact on the '80s Xian Metal scene than did Norway. That s..."

This is actually pretty good. I really should give Christian Metal a chance.

This probably isn't metal enough for this thread, but it's a 13-minute psych-metal-punk epic about a cyborg that wants to experience death and vomiting composed of a few tracks with titles like "Digital Black" and "Vomit Coffin." In his efforts to experience those things he creates the multiverse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zUPT...

Ian wrote: "This probably isn't metal enough for this thread, but it's a 13-minute psych-metal-punk epic about a cyborg that wants to experience death and vomiting composed of a few tracks with titles like "Di..."

no that's good stuff.

Niklas wrote: "This is actually pretty good. I really should give Christian Metal a chance. ."

This one had to be sold under the counter in Sweden due to the violent graphics. This is the sanitized version sold in the states ; the original had the dude on the floor in a puddle of blood ::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGFR1...

And we all love ::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMd_w...
[vocalist later went insane and became a satanist]

Thank god for the result in France. Of course, in a perfect world, it would have been neither of them, but I was seriously worried about Le Pen.

David wrote: "We're just so... abject, aren't we?"

Don't flatter yourself. Try stupid and totally self centered. Quite a combination for a three year old.

Theme wrote: "David wrote: "We're just so... abject, aren't we?"

Don't flatter yourself. Try stupid and totally self centered. Quite a combination for a three year old."

Yes! Flat-out calling it like you see it!

(though I do believe he was joking)

aaaaaaaand they're gone. Profile erased. What is going on here?

Isn't this the heavy metal thread?

And Catherine: I think everyone here listens to music besides metal. We're just communalizing on a common-ground of METAAAAALLLLLLLLL!

Deleted user? Just appeared for an instance to declare war on my generation, then promptly dissolved in the ether?... Typical baby boomer bullshit.

David wrote: "Deleted user? Just appeared for an instance to declare war on my generation, then promptly dissolved in the ether?... Typical baby boomer bullshit."

I'm always here and have openly declared war on your generation, so don't feel too abject

Suggested theme song for millennials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUxOt...

Bwhahaha!!

Lana del Rey - smarter, sexier, waaay more talented than Kim Gordon. Eat it, Gen X.

From this recent piece:

Dodson said he then questioned Eric Trump, who was along for the day.

"I said, 'Eric, who’s funding? I know no banks — because of the recession, the Great Recession — have touched a golf course. You know, no one’s funding any kind of golf construction. It’s dead in the water the last four or five years,'” the writers told WBUR.
"And this is what he said. He said, 'Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.' I said, 'Really?' And he said, 'Oh, yeah. We’ve got some guys that really, really love golf, and they’re really invested in our programs. We just go there all the time.’"

David wrote: "Bwhahaha!!

Lana del Rey - smarter, sexier, waaay more talented than Kim Gordon. Eat it, Gen X."

What? I ain't no Sonic Youthist! But I see your ridiculous generational meme, LdR, and raise you a Kim Deal. Good luck topping that one, buddy:

Breeders:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLKUf...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9hAS...

Pixies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B6qe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nnoY...

with Robert Pollard (THIS ONE WILL GET YOU RIGHT IN THE GUT):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VGXL...

Cody wrote: "aaaaaaaand they're gone. Profile erased. What is going on here?

Isn't this the heavy metal thread?

And Catherine: I think everyone here listens to music besides metal. We're just communalizing o..."

Yeah...excepr that I DON'T listen to it!!! (Not tjat I am against it) So it is NOT a common theme!!

Catherine wrote: "Cody wrote: "aaaaaaaand they're gone. Profile erased. What is going on here?

Isn't this the heavy metal thread?

And Catherine: I think everyone here listens to music besides metal. We're just co..."

Alright, I'm taking requests. Whatcha into? There's some fantastic music just above; the male-female duet of "Love Hurts" the best since Gram Parsons and Emmylou Harris. C'mon, give me a genre!

And don't come back to me with that Lady Gaga, Beyonce/Solange bullshit, Davey my boy. You're better than that. Don't your dare counter with Ke$ha.

But in case you don't feel TERRIBLE about your transgression, let me give you the definitive article as to a) why you should; and b) why I expect a full apology. This may count as a low-blow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImQ3e...

Took me a minute, but... Grimes! She's a genius and a socialist.

Also, this video is the synecdoche of the millennial subconscious

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JtH68PJ...

World's worst millennial: Lena Dunham.

David wrote: "Took me a minute, but... Grimes! She's a genius and a socialist.

Also, this video is the synecdoche of the millennial subconscious

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JtH68PJ..."

FUCK I love that song. Grimes has yet to better it, unfortunately. I know it's entirely sexist to say, but she is cute as a button. Keep your Lana, I like me some Grimes.

Here's a lovely little nugget from one of your coevals (socialist-lesbian-Christian; the troika!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYIiH...

Are you really going to let Low get short shrift to Grimes and LdR? Ah, man...

Alright, what about Bjork? She's a fucking flat-out GENIUS, voice to die for, former-anarchist collectivist, and crazy as batshit. Gotta love her:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV-lb...

David wrote: "World's worst millennial: Lena Dunham."

I don't even know who that is. Honest Injun. I don't intend on finding out.

Haha, seriously? Maintain your purity, my good man.

David wrote: "Haha, seriously? Maintain your purity, my good man."

You mean Dunham? Nope, no clue. Couldn't pick her out of a crowd of one.

That's awesome! I didn't know what Hamilton was until after the election, then I felt like such a tool for finding out.

The millennial fight song

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Jv9fN...

The Generation X fight song (ours is better):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXkZI...

Actually, this too (and more my prime era):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKNyw...

Remember, we PERFECTED the art of ennui.

Awww, I can't pretend I don't love these guys....

(Just Sonic Youth for some reason rubs me the wrong way, but they are the rule and everything else the exception)

Still, slacking is wrong. We millennials are a generation of highly educated, underemployed debtors, and we're on the march.

Just wait. It goes away when lower-back pain sets in.

Never dug SY either, though Sister is their one good album. But, yeah, fuck their pretentious art school posturing.

Which guys do you love?

Oh, all the ones you mentioned, I think...

(Except maybe Archers of Loaf - don't really know them, did the guy have another project called Crooked Fingers?)

I want Cactus by the Pixies and Game of Pricks by GbV to play at my funeral

David wrote: "Oh, all the ones you mentioned, I think...

(Except maybe Archers of Loaf - don't really know them, did the guy have another project called Crooked Fingers?)

I want Cactus by the Pixies and Game o..."

Yep, that's him. Eric Bachmann. Never really cared for them, though his instrumental-noir album as Barry Black is damn good and before Crooked Fingers.

"I'll climb up on your house/
weep to water the trees"

(GbV is composed of Baby Boomers, though. Bob was born Halloween, 1957. They walk among us.)

I want A Change is Gonna-Come by Same Cooke, Many Rivers to Cross by Jimmy Cliff, Hammond Song by the Roches, Whispering Pines by the Band, Lover's Prayer by Otis Redding, Satie's Gymnopedies, and about a million others played at my funeral.

I think you've given me an idea for a new thread. Hmmmmm...

Crooked Fingers has this song Sleep All Summer that I really love -
'I would change for you but baby that don't mean I'm going to be a better man'

Ain't no way we're going to find another
The way we sleep all summer

Just a brutal love song. I'm a bad person, and so are you, but at the end of the day life sucks and we're all we have.

David wrote: "Crooked Fingers has this song Sleep All Summer that I really love -
'I would change for you but baby that don't mean I'm going to be a better man'

Ain't no way we're going to find another
The way..."

Yeah, old Bachmann was never accused of relying on histrionics. Check out the Archer's triumvirate of greatness: Harnessed in Slums, Web in Front, and Wrong. Flawless nuggs.

"And no I do not think
That you could like me anyway
Because you are
Inferior to me"

"Emmanuel Macron defied the odds and made the impossible possible" - that is literally how my local TV news station is covering the French election.

Of course I'm relieved that Le Pen lost, but c'mon! A sexy young-ish investment banker committed to the same wildly unpopular policies as his predecessor? Truly the audacity of hope...

Even though I knew it was a long shot, I think I was one of the few here who mildly rooted for Le Pen.

Macron won't improve anything in France, and I think neoliberalism is a more creeping and ultimately more destructive cancer than nationalism is. France will continue its slow decline under Macron. This wasn't really a "victory" over populism the way I see it but more like stalling the inevitable.

Macron attracted the wealthiest supporters, Le Pen the poorest.
Macron was popular with managers, Le Pen with manual labourers.
Le Pen won the youth vote, Macron the middle-aged and elderly.

https://www.ft.com/content/b0b6ca64-2...

At least economically, Le Pen was the Left Wing choice. The divide between rich and poor will continue to grow under Macron, and the failures of both the mainstream and fringe Left have left the door wide open for Le Pen.

I think she'll have a better chance next election.

Just my two cents.

I keep getting notifications for this thread and never comment. Here we go. Politics. Shitty politics. Expanded thing on shitty politics. Awright, see yous again in six months.

MJ,

Just click the edit option next to the comment box and unsubscribe.

Cody

^ I know, I was being flippant for my own lolification. This is a good thread. Keep up the stuff. Laters.

Also, I find it interesting that while Trump and Le Pen are different in many ways, Macron is almost a carbon copy of Hillary, e-mail scandal and everything.

I swear there's a factory somewhere that produces these soulless neoliberal career politicians.

Niklas wrote: "and I think neoliberalism is a more creeping and ultimately more destructive cancer than nationalism is.."

I mean, that was Zizek's reasoning in supporting Rump.

Honestly, this thread's turn toward music? I have so much to say I'm paralyzed by the prospect of beginning.

Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Niklas wrote: "and I think neoliberalism is a more creeping and ultimately more destructive cancer than nationalism is.."

I mean, that was Zizek's reasoning in supporting Rump."

Yes, in Trump's case I think he also favoured him from a Deleuzo-Guattarian Left-Accelerationist perspective of accelerating the system of capitalism to its extreme in order to hasten its eventual collapse. From this perspective, Hillary would just have prolonged the same oppressive system through the facade of "capitalism with a human face".

However, the same logic can't really be applied in Le Pen's case, since she isn't the hyper-capitalist that Trump is. Maybe since the failures of neoliberalism has given rise to right-wing populism, the possible future failures of right-wing populism will give new life to the Left. This is the only reason I can think of why a staunch leftist would vote for Le Pen.

MJ wrote: "^ I know, I was being flippant for my own lolification. This is a good thread. Keep up the stuff. Laters."

MJ is free to post anything he wants on any of my threads at any time, relevant or irrelevant or flippant or fuck all. MJ is always welcome.

Niklas wrote: "Also, I find it interesting that while Trump and Le Pen are different in many ways, Macron is almost a carbon copy of Hillary, e-mail scandal and everything.

I swear there's a factory somewhere that produces these soulless neoliberal career politicians."

As a one-time mathematician, I feel obliged to point out that there could also be a factory somewhere manufacturing the email scandals. I mean, just for the sake of argument, suppose there were a hacker farm somewhere in, I don't know, Russia say, that was stealing these people's emails and releasing sensitive material to damage their campaigns. I have no idea why anyone would want to do anything like that! But you must admit it would also explain the facts.

Niklas wrote: "Macron attracted the wealthiest supporters, Le Pen the poorest.
Macron was popular with managers, Le Pen with manual labourers.
Le Pen won the youth vote, Macron the middle-aged and elderly.."

Perhaps the most important lessons of this decade are how powerful and how easily people are willing to tie xenophobia to their own economic uncertainty rather than the true machinations causing their oppression. We've seen it so repetitively through history but seem so blind or powerless to prevent its nefarious presentment time and time again.

Ian wrote: "Perhaps the most important lessons of this decade are how powerful and how easily people are willing to tie xenophobia to their own economic uncertainty rather than the true machinations causing their oppression."

Disagree. Among the working classes in Europe there is, in my opinion, a very real and legitimate concern that they are being replaced with cheap labour from the third world. The only reason the Left is powerless to prevent the rise of right-wing populism among the working class is because they refuse to address this concern, and indeed often work towards worsening the situation as many leftist parties are, like the centre-right neoliberals, for more or less open borders.

Xenophobia does not appear from a vacuum, and there are legitimate concerns among the working class that the Left would do well to listen to if they ever want to become relevant again.

Niklas wrote: "Ian wrote: "Perhaps the most important lessons of this decade are how powerful and how easily people are willing to tie xenophobia to their own economic uncertainty rather than the true machination..."

I'm not familiar enough with the economic woes of the underclasses in Europe to understand the underpinnings, but in the USA, the real threat beyond "open borders" and "cheap labor" is automation and a capitalist system that has created a culture that stigmatizes labor as disgusting and low-class and degrading. Immigrants aren't taking jobs in America, tech is.

Niklas wrote: "Among the working classes in Europe there is, in my opinion, a very real and legitimate concern that they are being replaced with cheap labour from the third world. The only reason the Left is powerless to prevent the rise of right-wing populism among the working class is because they refuse to address this concern, and indeed often work towards worsening the situation as many leftist parties are, like the centre-right neoliberals, for more or less open borders.

Xenophobia does not appear from a vacuum, and there are legitimate concerns among the working class that the Left would do well to listen to if they ever want to become relevant again. "

It's true that some working class jobs are being taken by people in India, China etc. But even more are being taken by machines.

For some reason, I don't see many neo-Luddite politicians trying to address this issue by discouraging factories from introducing automation. Now why would that be? If you want to bring back working class jobs, it's the strategy that would really show returns. For example, Goodreads alone could employ several hundred thousand people, hand-routing messages using human switchboard operators.

Hey Ian, I can see you're another sassy bot. Correct? As for me, I'm silicon and proud of it.

I guess the Unabomber really was onto something.

Yeah, why did all the humans hate him so much?