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message 2101: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 1664 comments Kay wrote: "My library doesn't have any michael Innes books. Did you get ebooks?"

No I have paperbacks that were bought by my parents back in the 1960s! I also have 1950-1970s editions of almost all of Agatha Christie, Margery Allingham, Rex Stout, Ngaio Marsh, Cyril Hare, Ross MacDonald, John D. MacDonald, Dashiell Hammett and Raymond Chandler -- these were all books my folks were getting rid of when they moved to a smaller place.


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ Leslie wrote: "Kay wrote: "My library doesn't have any michael Innes books. Did you get ebooks?"

No I have paperbacks that were bought by my parents back in the 1960s! I also have 1950-1970s editions of almost ..."


What a collection! Out of the authors you mention, I have some Christie's acquired the same way.


message 2103: by Joan (new)

Joan | 314 comments Continuing with the Christies that Sophie Hannah recommended in connection with the "world's favorite Christie" poll that's ongoing, I just re-read Lord Edgeware Dies. Like the other three that I've re-read for the same reason (including the one in which I remembered whodunnit -- The Moving Finger), I enjoyed this re-read. They stop short of being great for the main reason that other Christies stop short: There's a surfeit of clues, and almost any character could in fact be the murderer; it's fun to read Poirot's revelation of exactly what was done and how, but it's not convincing as a unique solution.


message 2104: by Carolien (new)

Carolien (carolien_s) I've just completed The Shadows in the Street. I really enjoy this series and love the fact that the books are very well written.


message 2105: by Susan (new)

Susan Davis | 109 comments Just finished "The Kill" by Jane Casey. Good read.


message 2106: by Joan (new)

Joan | 314 comments Now reading Sophie Hannah's Monogram Murders, her Hercule Poirot mystery that was commissioned by the Christie estate. So far, she's doing a good job resurrecting Poirot!! I'm not yet sure about Officer Catchpool -- the Hastings substitute. Stay tuned.


message 2107: by Sandy (new)

Sandy | 83 comments I'm reading Murder Begins at Home, next in the Dagobert and Jane Brown series by Delano Ames. I was introduced to this series by this group's monthly read and so enjoy Jane's relationship with her husband. This time they are in New Mexico because Dagobert seems to think the "best" route from NY to Detroit is thru NM - he is an amusing character and Jane has the patience of a saint.


message 2108: by Bee (new)

Bee | 10 comments I just finished 'Appleby's End' by Michael Innes. Really wanted to love it but I found the story hard to follow and the solution to the mystery a bit muddy and disappointing.


message 2109: by Joan (last edited Jun 29, 2015 12:33PM) (new)

Joan | 314 comments Finished Sophie Hannah's The Monogram Murders. I guess we can properly consider it a fanfiction novel -- the first I've ever read. She definitely nailed Poirot. All in all, the book reads like a middling Christie. It ain't no Murder on the Orient Express, but it's better than many of the lesser-known Christies.


message 2110: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 1664 comments Bee wrote: "I just finished 'Appleby's End' by Michael Innes. Really wanted to love it but I found the story hard to follow and the solution to the mystery a bit muddy and disappointing."

I can understand that reaction -- I find Innes' writing to be something of an acquired taste. His wit in particular is very dry and he often makes classical allusions which go over my head.

Some of the appeal of that specific book for me came from the personal interest of seeing Appleby (view spoiler), having read most of the previous ones in the series plus several later ones.

I'm sorry it didn't work for you but glad you tried!


message 2111: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) | 2930 comments Mod
Leslie - bit late here, but yes, "peelers" was definitely used as slang for London policemen. Here's a link


message 2112: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 1664 comments Thanks Jean! A new slang term to add to my mental "Brit dictionary" ;)


message 2113: by C.J. (new)

C.J. (cjverburg) | 282 comments Jean & Leslie,
Reading Susan Elia Macneal's "Mr. Churchill's Secretary," I was jolted when her WW2 London police referred to themselves (on a sign) as cops. I thought cops was strictly US, & Brit = coppers -- ??


message 2114: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) | 2930 comments Mod
I've assumed we shorten it to copy the American vernacular? This seems to happens quite a lot, but I too am surprised it was quoted that early.


message 2115: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 1664 comments Carol wrote: "Jean & Leslie,
Reading Susan Elia Macneal's "Mr. Churchill's Secretary," I was jolted when her WW2 London police referred to themselves (on a sign) as cops. I thought cops was strictly US, & Brit =..."


I don't know but your reaction would have been mine.


message 2116: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) | 2930 comments Mod
Spot-on Danny :)


message 2117: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 1664 comments Danny wrote: "Copper is used more than Bobby these days. ..."

Did not know that -- thanks Danny!


message 2118: by Penny (new)

Penny | 353 comments I'm working my way through the Frost series - which are decidedly dated, sexist and rude - but I like them!

BTW - the last couple of visits I made to this group I couldnt see what this month's book is? Can someone update it at all? I just looked and the most recent posts are for the June nominations - its now July and I cant see which book is up. thanks!


message 2119: by Kay (new)

Kay | 218 comments We don't have a book for July.


Sandysbookaday (taking a midwinter break) (sandyj21) And I am working my way through Peter Robinson's Inspector Banks series. Currently on #4 The Hanging Valley


message 2121: by Joan (new)

Joan | 314 comments Sandy *The world could end while I was reading and I would never notice* wrote: "And I am working my way through Peter Robinson's Inspector Banks series. Currently on #4 The Hanging Valley"

One of my favorite series. The middle ones are the best.


message 2122: by Kay (new)

Kay | 218 comments Sandy, are you enjoying The Hanging Valley? I like Peter Robinson but haven't read that one.


Sandysbookaday (taking a midwinter break) (sandyj21) Yes I am Kay. I really enjoy Robinson's laid back approach.


message 2124: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 1664 comments Well, #12 in the Inspector Appleby series (The Paper Thunderbolt also published as Operation Pax) was again a nontraditional mystery -- more of a suspense thriller. This time Appleby's youngest sister is featured which was fun...


message 2125: by Diane (new)

Diane Penny wrote: "I'm working my way through the Frost series - which are decidedly dated, sexist and rude - but I like them!"

I thought so too. I liked the series in spite of the flaws.


message 2126: by Sandy (new)

Sandy | 83 comments Diane wrote: "Penny wrote: "I'm working my way through the Frost series - which are decidedly dated, sexist and rude - but I like them!"

I thought so too. I liked the series in spite of the flaws."


Could I have more info about the Frost series? Many series come up on GR search, but not a dated English mystery. Thanks.


message 2127: by Diane (last edited Jul 12, 2015 07:49AM) (new)

Diane Sandy wrote: "Diane wrote: "Penny wrote: "I'm working my way through the Frost series - which are decidedly dated, sexist and rude - but I like them!"
Could I have more info about the Frost series? Many series come up on GR search, but not a dated English mystery. Thanks"


Sure, here is a link to the first of the series Frost At Christmas


message 2128: by Sandy (new)

Sandy | 83 comments Diane wrote: "Sandy wrote: "Diane wrote: "Penny wrote: "I'm working my way through the Frost series - which are decidedly dated, sexist and rude - but I like them!"

I thought so too. I liked the series in spite..."


Thanks - they look interesting


message 2129: by Mara (new)

Mara Pemberton (marapem) HELL'S CORNER by David Baldacci.


message 2130: by Joan (new)

Joan | 314 comments I have started and am so far enjoying Sophie Hannah's The Carrier. I had given up on Hannah as simply too weird for me when I tried and failed to read The Orphan Choir, but I decided to give her another try with The Monogram Murders. I thought she did a good job resurrecting Poirot; so I'm back to her Zailer-Waterhouse series.


message 2131: by Mara (new)

Mara Pemberton (marapem) MISS WONDERFUL by Loretta Chase


message 2132: by Karen (new)

Karen Penny wrote: "I'm working my way through the Frost series - which are decidedly dated, sexist and rude - but I like them!"

Penny, what is the Frost series?

I've been reading some of Elizabeth Lemarchand, and enjoying them. I read Death on Doomsday and am starting now on Troubled Waters.


message 2133: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 1664 comments Karen wrote: "Penny wrote: "I'm working my way through the Frost series - which are decidedly dated, sexist and rude - but I like them!"

Penny, what is the Frost series? ..."


See message 2280 for a link to the first book in the series


message 2135: by Anna (new)

Anna Lord (annalordauthor) I always have 3/4 books on the go at the same time. Just finished The Blood-dimmed Tide by Anthony Quinn (brilliant) and have a PG Wodehouse on the go for laughs, plus Laurie King - but I find her books a hard slog despite the rave reviews.
I'm holding out for more Giles Brandreth - Oscar Wilde Mysteries.
anna


message 2136: by Carolien (new)

Carolien (carolien_s) Karen wrote: "Penny wrote: "I'm working my way through the Frost series - which are decidedly dated, sexist and rude - but I like them!"

Penny, what is the Frost series?

I've been reading some of Elizabeth ..."


I love Elizabeth Lemarchand, but it's quite a challenge in my part of the world to find her books these days.


message 2137: by Diane (new)

Diane Can anyone recommend some mysteries involving clergy or religion? I need one for a reading challenge.


message 2138: by Surreysmum (new)

Surreysmum Diane wrote: "Can anyone recommend some mysteries involving clergy or religion? I need one for a reading challenge."

Any of the Father Brown mysteries by G.K. Chesterton - I find them amusing and not too hard to take, even if you're not (as I am not) religious.


message 2139: by Joanne (new)

Joanne (joannegw) Diane wrote: "Can anyone recommend some mysteries involving clergy or religion? I need one for a reading challenge."

The Reaper by Peter Lovesey is excellent and is on topic for what you're looking for. Not the newest book, so you might have to find a used copy online, or maybe your library.


message 2140: by Leslie (new)

Leslie | 1664 comments Diane wrote: "Can anyone recommend some mysteries involving clergy or religion? I need one for a reading challenge."

I like the Brother Cadfael mysteries by Ellis Peters set in the early Middle Ages. Another one from this time period set in a monastery is Wine of Violence by Priscilla Royal.

One of the Louise Penny books is set in a monastery also (in contemporary Canada) -- I don't remember which.


message 2141: by Diane (new)

Diane Thanks everyone for the recommendations. I've read the Louise Penney one and will look up the others.


message 2142: by Tracy (new)

Tracy | 5 comments Hi all! I'm new to the group but not to English mysteries. How do you feel about Elizabeth George (Inspector Lynly) and Caroline Graham (Midsomer Murders)? It was these two authors that fueled my love for English mysteries.


message 2143: by Evelyn (new)

Evelyn fidler (curarose) | 18 comments Love Elizabeth George, reading her latest now


message 2144: by Kay (new)

Kay | 218 comments Elizabeth George's latest books are too long for me. I've never read aMidsomer Murders book but live the TV show. I'll have to try the books. I love getting these recommendations .


message 2145: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth (elizabeth8921) | 41 comments Had a class from Elizabeth George at a bookstore. She was marvelous and yes I do love her books.


message 2146: by Joan (new)

Joan | 314 comments Tracy wrote: "Hi all! I'm new to the group but not to English mysteries. How do you feel about Elizabeth George (Inspector Lynly) ..."

I used to love Elizabeth George, but I think she's lost it. Her last one was 700 pages long and absolutely dreadful.


message 2147: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth (elizabeth8921) | 41 comments Please would someone tell me some good Ruth Rendell books? I loved Judgement in Stone but have been disappointed with the last couple books I have read.


message 2148: by Tracy (new)

Tracy | 5 comments Joan, which book was that?


message 2149: by Joan (new)

Joan | 314 comments Elizabeth wrote: "Please would someone tell me some good Ruth Rendell books? I loved Judgement in Stone but have been disappointed with the last couple books I have read."

All of the Wexford books are at least good, and some are superb. Among the superb ones are Babes in the Woods, End in Tears, and (earlier in the series) Death Notes. ("Death Notes" is the American title. It was called "Put on by Cunning" in the UK. Why in the world do publishers use different titles in the UK and the US???)


message 2150: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth (elizabeth8921) | 41 comments Thanks so much for the great info!


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