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Start reading "The Wheel of Time" series, yes or no?
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If you want high fantasy, I suggest Robin Hobb's Farseer series.

However, that aside the WOT series is by far one of my favorite fantasy series. For me, once I fell in love with the series, the length of it was a plus since it meant more time in a world I loved. Usually when a story shifts between multiple characters I find myself liking one arc more than the others, but Robert Jordan somehow kept me interested in all the character arcs. Going through my second re-reading of the series now, and loving it. Absolutely read it.

For what it is worth, my brother, who is an avid epic fantasy/fantasy series reader, finds the Liveship Traders series to be the best of Hobb's.
I have read an awful lot of fantasy fiction over the last 20 years. This is one of my absolute least favorites, which is sad as the story is both good and fairly original. Trouble is, in each long volume there are about 50 pages of advancing the story and 400 of boring, badly written rubbish - the story is drawn presumably to sell more. Maybe on day a the 3 volume summary will come out - until then don't waste your time.....

If I had known then what I know now, I think I would still pick it up. It catches flack as being a generic fantasy with little to bring to the table in the way of innovation. Other common complaints are that it's to long winded and loses it's way too often.
Truthfully these are hard to argue with objectively, but in my own opinion Jordan was such a good story teller that the resulting entertainment factor makes up for his short comings. He knew what buttons to push and pushed them well. You could say that he was a master at the classical fantasy form.
The scope of the damn thing and his attention to detail are also on a whole new level. A lesser writer would not be able to keep a world that large together.
The series is unique in its challenges and its rewards, It is definitely not for everyone. If you're a literary snob with A.D.D, avoid it like the plague. If you're open minded and can tolerate mundane details in exchange for a fleshed out, believable world then pick it up. You'll find nothing else like it.

I'm thinking Jordan is the one with A.D.D. -- that's why the story wanders so much, chasing rabbits, as it were. I have enjoyed it. But I'm ready to put an end to some of the stories. Same with the Game of Thrones series.

I'm thinking Jordan is the one with A.D.D. -- that's why the story wanders so much, chasing rabbits, as it were...."
He tried to take on too much and his work suffered for it. It's flawed and the frustration is too much for some people, and I don't blame them. For me I still get a kick out of it.
In my opinion Game of thrones is messed up on such a fundamental level that it's not redeemable at all. It's a shame too, it had great potential.




Actually, Jordan left large chunks of written material and enough notes that another author is finishing the series. Brandon Sanderson has been doing a great job writing the last two books and the last book (where we get to find out what happens in the end) is due out in January.


Actually, Jordan left large chunks of written material and enough notes that another author is finishing the ser..."
Sanderson said in the preface to "The Gathering Storm" that Jordan had written the ending before he died. So I expect the ending will be as he envisaged it.

I hate Jordan's writing style (for some reason, I'm always desiring words where he always doesn't use them--it's odd), the characters trust someone then don't trust someone seemingly on the same page, the bad guys seem like carbon copies of others created decades before Jordan started his series, there's a ton of similarities to books that have come before and too few differences, etc., etc.
I bought the first box set, which contains the first three books of the WoT, having not even considered the possibility I wouldn't like this. Epic fantasy is one of my favorite genres, but this may be the first series where I don't even get through the first book. Right now, I could never say to start them.
Maybe pick up the first book and see if it agrees with you...

I found the first 200 pages of Eye of the World a slog. Very derivative, as you said. It gets better.
I think most Eddings (except The Elder Gods) better. Tighter. If you haven't, read 'The Redemption of Althalus'. Excellent.

Eagerly waiting the last book now. Even though, I need my memory refreshed about what happened in the previous ones!

The Wheel of Time Series is a mirror of what our world, our society is: annoying, boring at times, too many plots, too many twists, too many crazies...and yet you just can't help loving it. It's the same with the story, it's tiring, it's a long one, but once you started and persevered to the very end, you will really come to love it. It's not just your typical hack and slash stories; the plots are good, there are a lot of shadowing (is that the right term?) happening. It makes you think of the plot more not of the hack and slash thing.
Now I'm blabbering... :)) sorry.
I loved them all, every single one, I love how Nynaeve yanks her braid when she's frustrated, I love how the Aes Sedai sniff and look down on men, I love how Min, Avienda and Elayne can share a man and not kill each other, I love Mat and his dice rolling, I love Perrin scratching his beard and I love Rand and his crazy voices in his head !!
It makes the characters likeable and more like friends to me than just a character in a book
I love how Brandon Sanderson has continued the series and I can't wait til the final book to see how it will all end !! Yes I have been waiting about 18 years or so since I first read Book 1 but I don't care
It makes the characters likeable and more like friends to me than just a character in a book
I love how Brandon Sanderson has continued the series and I can't wait til the final book to see how it will all end !! Yes I have been waiting about 18 years or so since I first read Book 1 but I don't care

Even the first book was painful for me to read, and I like epic fantasy. I highly recommend NOT wasting your time.

I've read Hobb, she's good. I'd say better than Jordan. I've read George RR Martin - and if you aren't into gritty sex scenes, steer clear. Otherwise they are good, too. But, try reading Sanderson's other stuff. Mistborn is really fantastic.

But I have every intention of picking up the series again when the baby is older. I love epic fantasy. And the world building is awesome. I've been disappointed with a series before (Melanie Rawn's Capital Tower). Until the series is completed, I'm not buying any more books in the series.

Don't get me wrong. What I like is that most of the women are very strong personalities who ..."
Yes, Aes Sedai are annoying because they think they know better. With great power comes great responsibility and they have forgotten that to some extent.
I started to read in the beginning of the year, I'm in book nine, Winter's Heart, and I can´t stop reading. It is just great, especially the Aes Sedai.


Sarahhms wrote: "I would say no, because they are to long and so very similar to sword of truth serie of Goodkind (which is also better in mu opinion!) So I you want a long fantasy serie to invest time in, chose th..."Don't you mean the Sword of Truth is very similar to the Wheel of Time? Because the Wheel of Time is older.

I'm a big fan of Terry Goodkind, but his story is nowhere near the epic complexity of Wheel of Time. And like Rui said, his books came out after Wheel of Time.

The storyline is epic. As such I think that Jordan came to a point where he had trouble quickly moving his world to the brink (which is where he needed it to be for the finale). And while the story did drag getting there, I think that if it had been pared down, much would have been lost in the process.
This series is arguably the best Epic Fantasy written in the last thirty years or so. Definitely in the top 5 if not numero uno. I like it better than Goodkind's 'Sword of Truth' and so far more than "A Song of Ice and Fire'. Though both series are undeniably great in their own rights.
I too have read, and re-read, this series over the last 15 years, so I envy you much that you can pick it up now and read it through once from beginning to end, without being forced to wait for years on the next installment.

I am so glad you chose to start this one, and that you gave so many of us a chance to talk about our likes and dislikes concerning it. I'm sure the discussion of whether or not you should read it will continue until you have completed the series.

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It's an interesting but cliche world where, after the first couple of books, the author decided that it would never end. Then they died and had to have someone else close down the outfit.
I quit this series about half way though (at Path of Daggers) as it was just people wandering around being boring in a variety of ways. Poor character development and thousands of pages of non-events are what happens here.


I agree. I'm about 1/3 of the way through the last book now. I started the series back in '96 and I envy those who are just picking it up. Not having to wait for the next title is a great thing.

I am in the exact same boat. I have been trying to push through book two and I keep reverting to other books.


It's an interesting but cliche world where, after the first couple of..."
Interesting that David Eddings was through his entire writing career David & Leigh Eddings. She just didn't get credit until late in the piece.

It's a great story if you like sci-fi/fantasy. But Jordan lets the story get out of control and it really starts to lag in his later books. You could do what I did—read: the first 8 or 9 (they are really good through at least the 6th), skip the last one or two Jordan wrote, and start in with Brandon Sanderson's last three. Sanderson is able to pull the story back together.

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