What could the vampires do instead of sparkle?

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or maybe in the sunlight it breaks their skin off and reveals their true vampire form if they had one though...

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Peace wrote: "Crowell13 wrote: "or maybe in the sunlight it breaks their skin off and reveals their true vampire form if they had one though..."

that would be really odd if did, she would know who he really was.."

if the story was rewritten and Bella never sees him in the sun

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Continuing my list of ideas for what vampires could do instead of sparkle...

1) this ties in a bit with the native land thing, but you could also do this: the longer the vampire is out of their homeland, the "sicker" they become. Like literally, their eyesight is weaker, their skin is more vulnerable, their strength is diminished to that of a normal human's or even less, and germs can enter their body (and what makes this even worse for them is that they have no immune system to combat those germs, OR their immune system is incredibly weak since they've never encountered those germs), etc.

2) They start shriveling up into very ugly monsters.

3) Conversely, if you're doing something when the sunlight does not kill the vampires or destroy them or whatever, you could make them develop an immunity to the sunlight by several different ways. 1) it could be an innate gift, 2) they could develop that immunity due to becoming more used to the sunlight by going out into it more, etc.

That's all I have for now.

Wow, this is fun, thinking up vampire-sunlight-vulnerability ideas.

[M.R.]

I like those ideas.
Tying in with #1, if they're the dead-body variety of vampire, the germs entering their body would cause rot. Since it's a corpse, it would only make sense that one of the real fears, if the magic or science keeping it together ever runs out, would be decomposition.

[Elana]

so how about they start emitting heavily radioactive gamma radiation and toxic fumes? it would make some sense since the sun is constantly emitting radiation.

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M.R. wrote: "I like those ideas.
Tying in with #1, if they're the dead-body variety of vampire, the germs entering their body would cause rot. Since it's a corpse, it would only make sense that one of the real..."

Decomposing vampires? Epic. Albeit kind of gross...but still epic.

Tenma's story should turn out interesting.

[M.R.]

xD Yeah, I suppose that would be kind of gross... But gross is frequently part of myth. They do drink blood, after all. Personally, I like to cook with it, but drinking it... blegh.

It would seriously spoil the sexy, though.
"What's that smell?"
"Oh, sorry, babe. That's me. Rotting."
Virginity = safe.

[Elana]

well, if they were rotting, then wouldn't that make them zombies?

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M.R. wrote: "It would seriously spoil the sexy, though.
"What's that smell?"
"Oh, sorry, babe. That's me. Rotting."
Virginity = safe."

Lol!

That brings up another question, though--is there any way for the vampire to de-rot themselves? Like reverse the decomposing. This could, again, tie into the native homeland thing--they have to stay in there for a certain amount of time (depending on how bad their decomposition is), or something, in order to heal.

[Elana]

M.R. wrote: " xD Yeah, I suppose that would be kind of gross... But gross is frequently part of myth. They do drink blood, after all. Personally, I like to cook with it, but drinking it... blegh.

It would seriously spoil the sexy, though.
"What's that smell?"
"Oh, sorry, babe. That's me. Rotting."
Virginity = safe.

lololololololololz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[M.R.]

Elana wrote: "well, if they were rotting, then wouldn't that make them zombies?"

Not really. In most original vampire myths (at least the blood-sucking ones), the vampire is a corpse that crawls up out of the grave. They're often said to be bloated with the blood they've drunk, which is probably a reference to the way the body swells and reddens as it decays.
Zombies are a more recent concept, and they tend to be more interested in actually killing than in just stealing life force, if that makes sense.

Jocelyn: I would think that they would have to heal themselves the way they usually do, unless they don't de-rot at all and just eventually disintegrate. D:
Maybe stay within their native borders for a certain period of time while feeding heavily?

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@ M.R.

Yes, I think that would work.

There's also another question that needs to be resolved, though--is Tenma going to take a scientific approach to her vampires like Stephenie Meyer did, or a supernatural approach (to explain her vampires, of course--of course vampires are already supernatural in this way and that way.) Mixing both is a pretty hard thing to pull off. So far, this conversation has been leaning toward scientific...eh, I think both ways are equally cool.

[M.R.]

I prefer my vampires supernatural and heavily symbolic. Of course, that's partly because I don't have the biology background to technobabble convincingly. :)

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M.R. wrote: "I prefer my vampires supernatural and heavily symbolic. Of course, that's partly because I don't have the biology background to technobabble convincingly. :)"

Technobabble? Oh, how I wish that were a real word...xD

Yes, that's true. Soooooo many people criticize SM for all the vampire biology plot holes. I, for one, don't really care about them, since I'm not some expert biologist...the plot holes aren't as bad as, say, the Hunger Games (totally irrelevant, but I needed a comparison!)

[Bill]

M.R. wrote: "I like those ideas.
Tying in with #1, if they're the dead-body variety of vampire, the germs entering their body would cause rot. Since it's a corpse, it would only make sense that one of the real..."

This was done in The Light at the End to grisly effects.

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Jocelyn wrote: "M.R. wrote: "I prefer my vampires supernatural and heavily symbolic. Of course, that's partly because I don't have the biology background to technobabble convincingly. :)"

Technobabble? Oh, how I ..."

Just out of pure curiosity (not trying to be a dick or anything) what were the plot holes in the Hunger Games?

[Kirby]

Starhyphen wrote: "Just out of pure curiosity (not trying to be a dick or anything) what were the plot holes in the Hunger Games? "

well, someone else asked that question, and I made my list here:

http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/7...

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Right, thanks.
Agree absolutely with the plot holes in Mockingjay, was just curious about the first one :)

[J.]

The whole sunlight thing is just a myth.

Vampires can get you any night or any day. You are not safe! As a human you can see a little better in the daylight so you can see them lurking around the pines at the edge of your property while at night they can make it all the way to the small glow of light brushing the boxwood around your deck before you might see them.

Of course they are artful - you are dead in either scenario. If they want you so.

[J.]

For a real sunlight-weakness try just blinding light that sunglasses cannot fix.

Vampires see so well in the night that they 'pay for it' during full sun. Ever sit at a stop light and you have to see when the light changes from red to green but the sun is right behind that signal light? Sunglasses are useless, the little visor thing is useless, the window frame is useless. You can barely see the outline of the signal so forget about what color shows up. The semi behind you will blare his horn because he can't understand why you don't move on the green light.

Romance is all about the eyes anyway - windows to the soul and all - so a vampire eye weakness can be useful.

[Mochaspresso]

M.R. wrote: "Elana wrote: "well, if they were rotting, then wouldn't that make them zombies?"

Not really. In most original vampire myths (at least the blood-sucking ones), the vampire is a corpse that crawls u..."

Interesting. I wonder where do "The Walking Dead" zombies fit into this? They continue to decompose after becoming zombies but eating human flesh gives them energy and slows down the process. Other than a few books and the Night of the Living Dead movies, I don't know enough about traditional zombie lore to know if this is a deviation or not?

[Fiona]

Mocha Spresso wrote: "M.R. wrote: "Elana wrote: "well, if they were rotting, then wouldn't that make them zombies?"

Not really. In most original vampire myths (at least the blood-sucking ones), the vampire is a corpse ..."

Romero really invented zombies as we know them now. The original living dead movies are the standard other modern zombies build from, and in that way the walking dead zombies are pretty traditional, compared with, say, the 28 Days Later rage zombies, which don't rot because they aren't even technically dead.

[M.R.]

I think what usually differentiates zombies from vampires, other than their choice of food, is that zombies don't generally gain anything by eating flesh or brains. They attack and consume, but they're just mindless killing machines, and they'll eventually just rot away. Vampires glean some sort of energy from whatever they consume, and manage to sustain themselves that way.
I'm not terribly familiar with zombie lore, though. Sounds like a good next-research topic.

[Sarah]

they should... burn baby burn.Or at least have a really bad sun burn

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Peace wrote: "if some vamp can walk in the sun, then would they have there special ring, or necklas on them 2 protected them from the sun.(TVD)?"

So they have some talisman that protects them? Cool. That could be a substitute to my development-of-immunity idea.

[Carina]

Jocelyn wrote: "So they have some talisman that protects them? Cool. That could be a substitute to my development-of-immunity idea"

There was a ring in two episodes of Buffy/Angel that meant the vampire was basically immortal (aka could go out in the sun, they didn't die if staked etc) and I think someone said in this thread earlier there is something similar in Vampire Diaries.

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I like the original vampires: they simply perish into dust in the sunlight.

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Buffy turned up!