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What could the vampires do instead of sparkle?
Baylor wrote: "Don't be a smart ass. Yes I read the thread. And exactly you "ventured" the author never straight up tells us why they sparkle. And a "positive mutation"...yea um no."There's no need to be rude. It would be positive mutation to sparkle instead of die from sunlight. If you don't think so, I would be interested to know what it is about sparkling that you find so upsetting that you would personally choose death.
I think what Baylor is trying to say is that the vampires sparkling doesn't really contribute to anything. After all, vampires are fast, strong, and powerful enough to catch their prey without sparkling.
btw, I'm not taking sides...just saying what I think Baylor is trying to say.
btw, I'm not taking sides...just saying what I think Baylor is trying to say.
Mickey wrote: "Baylor wrote: "Don't be a smart ass. Yes I read the thread. And exactly you "ventured" the author never straight up tells us why they sparkle. And a "positive mutation"...yea um no."
There's no ne..."
Every single time you show up on a thread you're the rude one. Anyway sparkling is not an aspect of a predator at all. It does not aid in their strength, precision or skill. It does not enable them to hunt or kill better. The idea of sparkling is not offensive in and of itself, it's the fact that it was used to describe a predator. And I never said I would choose death, but other vampires have found ways around the sunlight such as protection rings.
I will not excuse the fact that she just threw it in the story without explaining its need. I would have even taken the explanation of all the vampires having been strippers and the body glitter just hadn't rubbed off yet.
There's no ne..."
Every single time you show up on a thread you're the rude one. Anyway sparkling is not an aspect of a predator at all. It does not aid in their strength, precision or skill. It does not enable them to hunt or kill better. The idea of sparkling is not offensive in and of itself, it's the fact that it was used to describe a predator. And I never said I would choose death, but other vampires have found ways around the sunlight such as protection rings.
I will not excuse the fact that she just threw it in the story without explaining its need. I would have even taken the explanation of all the vampires having been strippers and the body glitter just hadn't rubbed off yet.
Mickey wrote: "It would be positive mutation to sparkle "What's so positive about sparkling? :-)))
Is it positive like HIV positive?
Zoran wrote: "Mickey wrote: "It would be positive mutation to sparkle "
What's so positive about sparkling? :-)))
Is it positive like HIV positive?"
LMAO
What's so positive about sparkling? :-)))
Is it positive like HIV positive?"
LMAO
The just go up in flames like most all other vampires. But I think Stephanie Meyers did the sparkling thing because its meant for teenagers and them bursting in flames would be kind of violent. So, she had to figure out a reason they couldn't be in the sun; so she came up with sparkling. Weak, but I guess its a way to explain it.
Oh, I forgot to answer the original question. My suggestions would be:
1) burst into flames, like any other traditional vampire.
2) melt into a gooey puddle
3) let the sun slowly (or quickly, if you want) sap their power and/or physical strength.
4) let their aging catch up
Obviously, it depends on whether you want their reactions in the sunlight to be a strength or a weakness. Traditionally it's a weakness, but if you want it to be a strength, that's interesting as well.
1) burst into flames, like any other traditional vampire.
2) melt into a gooey puddle
3) let the sun slowly (or quickly, if you want) sap their power and/or physical strength.
4) let their aging catch up
Obviously, it depends on whether you want their reactions in the sunlight to be a strength or a weakness. Traditionally it's a weakness, but if you want it to be a strength, that's interesting as well.
Jocelyn wrote: "Oh, I forgot to answer the original question. My suggestions would be:1) burst into flames, like any other traditional vampire.
2) melt into a gooey puddle
3) let the sun slowly (or quickly, if y..."
Yeah, they do the gooey puddle in True Blood. But again..young adult lit lol.
There could be Day-walkers. ;3
Silvermoss wrote: "There could be Day-walkers. ;3"That's true, that happens in some vampire stories.
Peace wrote: "i wonder if any vamp that goes into the sunlight, would they burn up or not?"Depends on the vampire story. In alot of them they do burn in sunlight. That's why a lot of them sleep in caskets.
Jocelyn wrote: "4) let their aging catch up"
They do that (sort of) in The Light At The End.
Jocelyn wrote: "1) burst into flames, like any other traditional vampire."
Um... no. As I may have mentioned earlier in the thread, "burst into flames" was a Hollywood invention. Traditional leeches were merely rendered powerless, which probably doesn't translate very well to film (unless Nosferatu were to just blurt out"Oh no!!! I have been rendered powerless by sunlight!!! Woe is me!!!").
As I recall, Dracula walked around London at noon in the novel, and van Helsing's description of them said they could cross running water at midnight and noon.
If you'd said "traditional Hollywood vampire," then yes, that statement would be correct.
(I've read many vampire novels... maybe too many... >_>... <_<)
Baylor wrote: "Every single time you show up on a thread you're the rude one. "Really? Because I think your response to me was unnecessarily rude. Now, you're accusing me of being rude when you are "shouting", cursing, and calling me names? I'd think about who is being rude to whom.
Baylor said: Anyway sparkling is not an aspect of a predator at all. It does not aid in their strength, precision or skill. It does not enable them to hunt or kill better. The idea of sparkling is not offensive in and of itself, it's the fact that it was used to describe a predator. And I never said I would choose death, but other vampires have found ways around the sunlight such as protection rings.?
How would dying from sunlight be a sign of a predator? It doesn't enable them to hunt or kill better. Meyer knew of the tradition of sunlight having an effect and decided to put a spin on it. There's no doubt that sparkling makes them better predators than burning and dying would, wouldn't it? In her scenario, you actually live to hunt another day.
Protection rings would be a problem for someone who needs a scientifically plausible explanation. How exactly does that work to protect the vampire from harm? (I imagine this is a ring that a vampire wears that shields him from the sun?) We've talked of sunblock before.
As far as not giving the explanation of why, Bella is not a scientist. She doesn't come to information looking to fit it into the laws of the natural world. We don't find out the scientific explanation for many things in Harry Potter, because HP is not a scientist either. It wouldn't make sense to the story to have Meyer break into the story and discuss the science with us. (Although Carlisle functions as the person who explains a lot of Bella's pregnancy, but he's not a part of the story when sparkling would've been introduced).
Rapidly aging in the sun would be an interesting idea. The main problem being that, as they are eternal beings, throughout the course of their history, they would end up looking so ancient that they couldn't pass for human anymore. I think with such a spin, the problem would be creating such a theme of a fear of aging. There's some of that in the story with Bella's fear of looking older, but this would intensify it to another level. I know there are some people who are terrified of aging, but I can't imagine it being very interesting to explore to that level. That's just me, though.
Mickey wrote: "The main problem being that, as they are eternal beings, throughout the course of their history, they would end up looking so ancient that they couldn't pass for human anymore."
That's the main point, though. It's a weakness. It's a risk that goes along with it. I think that problem just makes the idea better. IMO. for me, the bigger the weakness, the more interesting.
I think with such a spin, the problem would be creating such a theme of a fear of aging.
Assuming the author decides to suffuse that kind of theme. It's true that traditionally, whenever there's some aging thing, there's a theme to go along with it as well. But the author still has the choice not to do that too.
That's the main point, though. It's a weakness. It's a risk that goes along with it. I think that problem just makes the idea better. IMO. for me, the bigger the weakness, the more interesting.
I think with such a spin, the problem would be creating such a theme of a fear of aging.
Assuming the author decides to suffuse that kind of theme. It's true that traditionally, whenever there's some aging thing, there's a theme to go along with it as well. But the author still has the choice not to do that too.
Bill wrote: "Jocelyn wrote: "4) let their aging catch up
"
They do that (sort of) in The Light At The End.
Jocelyn wrote: "1) burst into flames, like any other traditional vampire."
Um... no. As I may have m..."
Cool, I was wrong about the traditional thing. But either way, it's still a nice thing to do for vamps in the sun.
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They do that (sort of) in The Light At The End.
Jocelyn wrote: "1) burst into flames, like any other traditional vampire."
Um... no. As I may have m..."
Cool, I was wrong about the traditional thing. But either way, it's still a nice thing to do for vamps in the sun.
Now, I'm not a fan of the sparkling, but I HAVE to butt in and crush this idea that "traditional" vampires burst into flame. It is not traditional. It's not even a Hollywood invention. It's a Hollywood MISCONCEPTION. In the 1922 silent Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens, Count Orlok, the Dracula-substitute (who was basically walking copyright infringement, but also one of the best character designs ever, imo) is tricked into drinking from a willing victim who is pure of heart - the only way (in that canon) for a vampire to be destroyed. Ellen, the victim, manages to keep Orlok with her through the night, and he vanishes in a puff of smoke as the first rays of dawn fall on him. The sunrise was actually meant to contribute to the film ambiance - it looked good. Unfortunately, the scene was misunderstood to represent the light killing the vampire, rather than the vampire coincidentally being killed at first light.
Vampires have traditionally been nocturnal, yes. However, up until the early 1800s (before Dracula, but after the publication of Varney the Vampire, The Vampyre and Carmilla), there was no unified concept of the myth. The word "vampire" didn't even appear in the English language until the eighteenth century. The vampire is not some monolithic and immutable archetype. Essentially, it can be boiled down to a monster that steals life force in some form or another (usually blood, but often breath, sex, tears, or dreams) from a human being.
I don't much like the idea of vampires sparkling, but at least that was done deliberately, unlike burning, which was nothing more than a mistake.
I just don't know why people are getting so upset about this. I mean these are fictional beings we are talking about here. So their characteristics can be imagined any way the writer wants. For example in The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher there are different types of vampires. One of which do not even feed on blood. So there is no right way to create a vampire.
Mickey wrote: "Baylor wrote: "Every single time you show up on a thread you're the rude one. "
Really? Because I think your response to me was unnecessarily rude. Now, you're accusing me of being rude when you a..."
You would not need a scientific reason for a daylight ring. All you would need is a witch. Now I'm not saying Twilight should have witches, but I am saying that there are other ways to include a daylight ring. Look at least when they burn in the sun there's some kind of rightness in it. The greater the predator the greater the weakness so to speak. Now compare that to this badass vampire who is indestructible to being subjected to the horrors of 'sparkling'. It's a pathetic weakness and it feels like a cop out. I get it if the author wanted practically invincible vampires, but then just make them that way instead of giving me this lame image of an invincible vampire being scared of sparkling. It's just off.
As for the whole scientists thing, you did have a point. Why couldn't Carlisle have explained the sparkling thing? He's knowledgeable, so why not? I mean this is how I see it. Every other aspect of a vampire (that I know of) is explained. So why not explain the sparkling thing?
Oh and trust me, you're rude.
Really? Because I think your response to me was unnecessarily rude. Now, you're accusing me of being rude when you a..."
You would not need a scientific reason for a daylight ring. All you would need is a witch. Now I'm not saying Twilight should have witches, but I am saying that there are other ways to include a daylight ring. Look at least when they burn in the sun there's some kind of rightness in it. The greater the predator the greater the weakness so to speak. Now compare that to this badass vampire who is indestructible to being subjected to the horrors of 'sparkling'. It's a pathetic weakness and it feels like a cop out. I get it if the author wanted practically invincible vampires, but then just make them that way instead of giving me this lame image of an invincible vampire being scared of sparkling. It's just off.
As for the whole scientists thing, you did have a point. Why couldn't Carlisle have explained the sparkling thing? He's knowledgeable, so why not? I mean this is how I see it. Every other aspect of a vampire (that I know of) is explained. So why not explain the sparkling thing?
Oh and trust me, you're rude.
Baylor wrote: "Oh and trust me, you're rude."Let's see:
1. I haven't cursed at anyone.
2. I haven't screamed at anyone.
3. I haven't referred to anything as retarded.
How do you fit on the rudeness scale? If I'm on the charts, I can't imagine where you would fit.
Be mature. Try civility.
How would a ring protect an entire body? Scientifically? (Witches would be magic, I would guess.)
I don't see any "rightness" in burning. Some people are used to it, I suppose, but it is a greater weakness than sparkling. I don't think invincible vampires are scared of sparkling. What do you mean, scared of sparkling?
I would venture that Carlisle didn't describe the sparkling because when it was introduced, he was not on easy terms with Bella.
You know, if you can't be civil, don't bother responding. I'm not interested in rude people.
*Spontaneous mode*
Thought of another thing vampires could do in the sunlight.
1) go insane? Yeah, dumb idea....but it sure is interesting.
2) There was this interesting thing from Greek mythology. One of the giants that fought Olympus shortly after the war with the Titans was called Alcyoneus. He was immortal in his homeland and could only be killed when he wasn't in his homeland. Perhaps vampires could be immune to sunlight in their homeland, but vulnerable to it outside? (What kind of vulnerability specifically is, obviously, up to you.)
3) If you're doing a kind of anti-hero like Edward Cullen, someone who struggles to keep his/her bloodlust in control, you could also make the vampire lose control of that bloodlust in the sunlight. So he's able to keep it in control when he's not in the sunlight, and it's a lot harder for him in the sunlight. This kind of ties into the going insane thing of number one.
Still gunning my brain to think of more ideas...
Thought of another thing vampires could do in the sunlight.
1) go insane? Yeah, dumb idea....but it sure is interesting.
2) There was this interesting thing from Greek mythology. One of the giants that fought Olympus shortly after the war with the Titans was called Alcyoneus. He was immortal in his homeland and could only be killed when he wasn't in his homeland. Perhaps vampires could be immune to sunlight in their homeland, but vulnerable to it outside? (What kind of vulnerability specifically is, obviously, up to you.)
3) If you're doing a kind of anti-hero like Edward Cullen, someone who struggles to keep his/her bloodlust in control, you could also make the vampire lose control of that bloodlust in the sunlight. So he's able to keep it in control when he's not in the sunlight, and it's a lot harder for him in the sunlight. This kind of ties into the going insane thing of number one.
Still gunning my brain to think of more ideas...
Jocelyn wrote: "*Spontaneous mode*2) There was this interesting thing from Greek mythology. One of the giants that fought Olympus shortly after the war with the Titans was called Alcyoneus. He was immortal in his homeland and could only be killed when he wasn't in his homeland. Perhaps vampires could be immune to sunlight in their homeland, but vulnerable to it outside? (What kind of vulnerability specifically is, obviously, up to you.)
That's actually a really cool idea. It could be tied in with the whole "native earth" concept that shows up in a lot of vampire lore. After all, Dracula didn't sleep in a coffin, but in a box of dirt. Maybe they would haul around their native earth when they were in foreign lands, so they would have a place to recover in case of accidental exposure.
M.R. wrote: "Jocelyn wrote: "*Spontaneous mode*2) There was this interesting thing from Greek mythology. One of the giants that fought Olympus shortly after the war with the Titans was called Alcyoneus. He wa..."
Christine Feehans series has the Carpathians (basically good vampires) be better able to heal themselves if they can use the earth of thier homeland... it would be an interesting idea to take it as far as Jocelyn suggested.
Ha, I never thought of the "native earth" thing. I like it when the weakness is as big as possible, so if I were doing it, the native earth would be un-native-ified when it's out of its original location. You have to actually be there, you can't just bring it around. Though that would be cool either way, I think.
Jocelyn wrote: "Ha, I never thought of the "native earth" thing. I like it when the weakness is as big as possible, so if I were doing it, the native earth would be un-native-ified when it's out of its original lo..."Vampires would be a lot less pervasive though - if they always had to sleep in thier native soil and as soon as you leave the country it becomes unusable... also would it be native to thier human selves or where they got turned?
I think the only way for vampires to become more prolific would be the latter!
I wonder if their could be multiple vulnerabilities at once in the sunlight?
e.g., A vampire could weaken, rapidly age, and go insane all at once. (please don't ask me how it's possible, because I don't know.)
e.g., A vampire could weaken, rapidly age, and go insane all at once. (please don't ask me how it's possible, because I don't know.)
Good thinking. Although, that raises questions about what constitutes a homeland. Modern states haven't always existed with their current boundaries. Maybe a certain radius from where the person was born? (Also, since everyone and his uncle Ned seems to have their own vampire books, I'll go ahead and say that I have as well, and that's pretty much the system in mine: there are some wounds that won't heal on their own, and to avoid fading away or going insane, a vampire has to burrow into the dirt and hibernate near where he was born.)
Carina wrote: "Jocelyn wrote: "Ha, I never thought of the "native earth" thing. I like it when the weakness is as big as possible, so if I were doing it, the native earth would be un-native-ified when it's out of..."
I think whether the native-ness is to their human selves or where they got turned can vary according to each author. If I were doing it, I'd do the human self. For what reason, I don't know. I'd just do it.
I've never thought about sleeping ALWAYS in their native soil, just about whether the vulnerability in the sunlight exists based on location. Though that would be really cool if they always had to. It's a huge weakness.
I think whether the native-ness is to their human selves or where they got turned can vary according to each author. If I were doing it, I'd do the human self. For what reason, I don't know. I'd just do it.
I've never thought about sleeping ALWAYS in their native soil, just about whether the vulnerability in the sunlight exists based on location. Though that would be really cool if they always had to. It's a huge weakness.
M.R. wrote: "Good thinking. Although, that raises questions about what constitutes a homeland. Modern states haven't always existed with their current boundaries. Maybe a certain radius from where the person wa..."
Well, sometimes the author just ignores the constantly changing boundaries. Like in the Heroes of Olympus series by Rick Riordan (which is based on Greek mythology) Alcyoneus' "homeland" was in Alaska. In that series, Greek mythological creatures (gods, monsters, and locations alike) move in accordance to Western Civilization. So his old homeland was in Greece, now it's in the U.S. Perhaps the vampires' homeland can also change like that, according to where their culture moves? Then that brings up another weakness: if that culture dies out, then the vampire dies also.
It would be a good idea about the certain radius thing, though. It could be some "sacred" number of miles, leagues, feet, or whatever that homeland uses to measure things. Like Greece, the special number could be seven.
Well, sometimes the author just ignores the constantly changing boundaries. Like in the Heroes of Olympus series by Rick Riordan (which is based on Greek mythology) Alcyoneus' "homeland" was in Alaska. In that series, Greek mythological creatures (gods, monsters, and locations alike) move in accordance to Western Civilization. So his old homeland was in Greece, now it's in the U.S. Perhaps the vampires' homeland can also change like that, according to where their culture moves? Then that brings up another weakness: if that culture dies out, then the vampire dies also.
It would be a good idea about the certain radius thing, though. It could be some "sacred" number of miles, leagues, feet, or whatever that homeland uses to measure things. Like Greece, the special number could be seven.
Okay let's have a little life lesson Mickey( which by the way I love mickey mouse and now that's blown)
You are very rude because no matter what you constantly talk down to people. You get on a high horse and act like nothing else anyone says has any value. But you know what? That's fine, but I would suggest counseling, you have issues and just reading your posts screams "pay attention to me".
As for the scientific part of it all? I honestly can't say. The only thing I am trying to say about the sparkling is what I've already said 'it's weak'. As for the vampires being scared of sparkling, yes just like if they burned in the sun (thus revealing themselves to the world) they are 'scared' (maybe shy is a btr word or apprehensive) about sparkling in the sun because it would reveal them to the humans (then the Volturi would step in {from what I remember} )
P.S. If you're not interested in rude people I would suggest not looking in the mirror.
P.S.S. Yes I am being rude but oh well...it's my keyboard and I'll bitch if I want to.
P.S.S.S. You totally have a right to be who you are I'm just tired of all the fights that you start, but it's your right to start them.
You are very rude because no matter what you constantly talk down to people. You get on a high horse and act like nothing else anyone says has any value. But you know what? That's fine, but I would suggest counseling, you have issues and just reading your posts screams "pay attention to me".
As for the scientific part of it all? I honestly can't say. The only thing I am trying to say about the sparkling is what I've already said 'it's weak'. As for the vampires being scared of sparkling, yes just like if they burned in the sun (thus revealing themselves to the world) they are 'scared' (maybe shy is a btr word or apprehensive) about sparkling in the sun because it would reveal them to the humans (then the Volturi would step in {from what I remember} )
P.S. If you're not interested in rude people I would suggest not looking in the mirror.
P.S.S. Yes I am being rude but oh well...it's my keyboard and I'll bitch if I want to.
P.S.S.S. You totally have a right to be who you are I'm just tired of all the fights that you start, but it's your right to start them.
What a mature answer, Baylor. You're so classy. If you can't see that you're the one being rude, then your problems are not something that can be fixed with reasons. As far as fear of sparkling goes, if you know the reason, why ask?
Fear of getting in trouble with the authorities is a pretty widespread one, isn't it? Whether vampires have a codified law or if they simply act on instincts or are compelled internally to follow a code is another area of variety that vampire stories have. Personally, I liked the Volturi. I liked the old world, ancient, aristocratic feel to them, but I imagine there are others who prefer their vampires to be entirely id-driven and lawless. Whatever. If it's not your cup of tea, what do you want someone else to do about it? It's time people learned how to look beyond themselves and let other people enjoy what they do.
ETA: I'm interested in a discussion about vampires, so if anyone wants to respond to my post about the content of it in an intelligent and friendly fashion, I'm all for it. As for getting in a snot-fest with children, I didn't come on here for that. Sorry, Baylor. I gave you a second chance.
Baylor wrote: "it's my keyboard and I'll bitch if I want to"Ok, now I'm singing that damn song, look what you made me do!
:-p
Mickey wrote: "What a mature answer, Baylor. You're so classy. If you can't see that you're the one being rude, then your problems are not something that can be fixed with reasons.
As far as fear of sparkling g..."
Um read my post honey, I did say that I knew I was being rude so...yea. As for "giving me a second chance" there you go again with that high horse. And i was only talking about sparkling because I wanted to give me opinion, as I am allowed to do. Also I urge you to get counseling, I mean seriously (not even kidding). And when did I say the Volturi were not my cup of tea? But whatever it does not matter I guess cause whatever I say you'll find your own way to be right and then you'll just talk&talk&talk&talk as my brain cells die from all your talking.
As for this: "What a mature answer, Baylor. You're so classy." lmao I mean seriously that wasn't mature either, way to be condescending. No seriously, good job. I wasn't trying to be mature at all so I'm glad you understood at least one thing I was saying.
Well now, I think I'm done...oh wait one more thing.
"You know, if you can't be civil, don't bother responding. I'm not interested in rude people."
And:
"As for getting in a snot-fest with children, I didn't come on here for that."- Gawd you sound old( like creepy, evil lady old). What does that even mean??Who says snot-fest anymore???? And yes these are legit questions.
As far as fear of sparkling g..."
Um read my post honey, I did say that I knew I was being rude so...yea. As for "giving me a second chance" there you go again with that high horse. And i was only talking about sparkling because I wanted to give me opinion, as I am allowed to do. Also I urge you to get counseling, I mean seriously (not even kidding). And when did I say the Volturi were not my cup of tea? But whatever it does not matter I guess cause whatever I say you'll find your own way to be right and then you'll just talk&talk&talk&talk as my brain cells die from all your talking.
As for this: "What a mature answer, Baylor. You're so classy." lmao I mean seriously that wasn't mature either, way to be condescending. No seriously, good job. I wasn't trying to be mature at all so I'm glad you understood at least one thing I was saying.
Well now, I think I'm done...oh wait one more thing.
"You know, if you can't be civil, don't bother responding. I'm not interested in rude people."
And:
"As for getting in a snot-fest with children, I didn't come on here for that."- Gawd you sound old( like creepy, evil lady old). What does that even mean??Who says snot-fest anymore???? And yes these are legit questions.
Zoran wrote: "Baylor wrote: "it's my keyboard and I'll bitch if I want to"
Ok, now I'm singing that damn song, look what you made me do!
:-p"
LOL well hey it's a good song man! Many life lessons have been learned due to that masterpiece;)
Ok, now I'm singing that damn song, look what you made me do!
:-p"
LOL well hey it's a good song man! Many life lessons have been learned due to that masterpiece;)
Baylor wrote: "Viktória wrote: "What if they just feel pain. No burning, no dead. But it could be really hard because it will remind them their transformation."I like it;)"
i second that!!
That image is scintillating, Alex. Absolutely scintillating.
Jocelyn wrote: "That image is scintillating, Alex."It makes me incandescent.
Alex wrote: "It makes me incandescent."
It also makes your chest sculpted.
And your eyelids glistening, pale lavender.
It also makes your chest sculpted.
And your eyelids glistening, pale lavender.
Baylor wrote: "Alex wrote: ""hot damn...."
Seconded
What if they exploded, like a cosmo shaking the galaxy? That would be awesome--and so much less girly.
Catherine wrote: "What if they exploded, like a cosmo shaking the galaxy? That would be awesome--and so much less girly."Done... Fright Night.
Alex wrote: ""who is that?
Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Alex wrote: "Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer"That picture of Spike made my day. He doesn't need to sparkle at all, he is the big bad. I don't think Buffy would have been nearly as successful if Joss Whedon had made the vampires sparkle.
Erin wrote: "Alex wrote: "Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer"That picture of Spike made my day. He doesn't need to sparkle at all, he is the big bad. I don't think Buffy would have been nearly as successful..."
:D
He doesn't need to sparkle. He has something which I like to call "personality"
Yeah the story between Spike and Buffy was very well done. James Marsters makes one awesome vampire. Even when he went crazy and kind of good he was still more of a rad vampire than Angel. And 10 times more bad ass than Edward. He didn't go in for all the sparkly guilt.
If you're looking for something purely visual, instead of a pretty thing like sparkling, they could actually look like corpses in the sun. I think that's what I was expecting when Edward first shows himself in the light and I was disappointed that he only sparkles.
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Don't be a smart ass. Yes I read the thread. And exactly you "ventured" the author never straight up tells us why they sparkle. And a "positive mutation"...yea um no.