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@ Lucy25)I didn't get the impression that her family was from Atlantis. Just the wine.
I wasn't sure. Like you said we don't truly know how old she is and if time flows the same in the Below as the Above London. It could however, explain why Door and her family are so special.
26)Yes, he does appear to be special. I thought it was funny that Door and Hunter had like zero faith in him going into the Ordeal
Door did seem to think she sent him to his death.
27) Easy mistake! At the end of that chapter I was debating to myself what it meant that the Marquis was visiting with those guys, and boss seemed to fit. Although I'm pretty happy he's not the boss- I had higher hopes for him.
I'm glad he's not too. Sounds like Door's father truly trusted him. Sounds like Carabas owed Portico a huge favor. Could that be all there is to it or is there more?
28) I think you mean Hunter has killed many a terrible beast. I thought that Door's motivation was finding who killed her parents, Richards was going home, and Hunter's was killing the beast. Did I read this wrong?
That would make so much more sense. I had the kids home when I read this and they must have interrupted me and I somehow thought it was Door they were talking about. That was a big mistake on my part. lol Sorry. I was thinking man Door is tough killing things with her bare hands.
29) I was a little thrown by the romance thing, especially because we still don't have a clear age on Door (but we know she has only had sips of her dad's wine before). I don't think they will end up together, but I've been wrong before.
I agree with you.
30) Yeah, it's hard to pin them down. And what was with that scene about eating the little (terra cotta?) animal. WEIRD!
I thought it was weird too.
31) I have a prediction. I think that Hunter will become disabled or separated from the group, and Richard will have to kill the beast on his own. And he will be a HERO
You may be right. Today the phrase "Richard the Lionhearted" popped into my mind. I guess we'll see.
32) I am so looking forward to seeing what is in the box. Is it going to rescue the Marquis?
I wonder.
33) What about the people that get pulled down below? Do they live abnormally long lives after that? Are they able to procreate in London below? It seems like Door was born there, rather than being pulled down with her family. But then again, Door's family is special.
I hope we get more answers about this. I've wondered the same thing especially in regards to Door.
35) I thought we decided that he is SPECIAL- ha! I don't that that being easy going is necessarily it. we have already observed that his transition from London below was pretty smooth, and he has been taking things more and more at face value. But if this were all there were to his personality then wouldn't he take at face value that he is crazy and the world is telling him to kill himself?
Not gullible? Maybe. Or maybe it's FATE. Or his force of will (or something).
True, I just haven't figured it out what it is that is special. I thought it interesting that Hunter said he seemed like he'd grown up after his Ordeal. Not as boyish looking any more. Also, I think the Ordeal would need to be unique for everyone and address one of the deepest insecurities. I think Richard had seen so many strange things he wasn't fooled.
36) I was like "HMMM... WHEN did this turn into a fairy tale?" It was effective at forcing Richard into the Ordeal, but I did think it was a little weird.
For some reason this book is reminding me a lot of the Phantom Toll Booth, but I read it years ago and I'm not sure how truly similar the two stories are. In some ways it seems everything is laid out like a nightmare where you can't figure out why things are happening.
37)I am going with the theory that she is from Scotland Below, or had at least spent time in Scotland Below, and because they could see each other so well, she assumed they were on the same plane of existance. And she will RESCUE THEM ALL with her umbrella map. I'm just making wild guesses here
I love crazy predictions and I think that would me an interesting ending.
38)YES! I think so. But if not, I do have some hope that his death will turn out to be helpful to the overall quest. Something to do with the box, perhaps.
I do wonder what is in there and how the Old Bailey knew he was in trouble. Could it contain part of the Marquis? His soul or conscience perhaps?
So, I have already finished with today's reading thanks to my advanced time zone (hehe) and WOW some of our questions are answered.AND BETRAYAL!! I was in shock.
Edited after reading Parvathy's post: You figured it out!
@Parvathy26) Serpentine did say it was something in his eyes. May be Richard' kind heart is the one that makes him special. She might have seen in his eyes that he is not the kind of person to abandon his friends which makes him a hero. Also the beads belonged that was in his pocket belonged to Anaesthesia. He kept it as a reminder of her and it is his concern for her that ultimately saved him
I like that thought.
27) Me too, I have to reread the tale to know how exactly the character fits in to the story. So we were wrong about De Carrabas but the more improtant question is if we rule out De Carrabas and Richard as the traitors in Door's team then that leaves only Hunter. Do you think Hunter has a secret agenda other than killing the monster as she claims.
That would be an interesting twist. She did disappeared for several years. Maybe she had to hide any wounds that could have revealed she was the killer?
28) It is not Door who killed the beast but Hunter. Hunter is the one who is on the mission to kill the Beast of London. This did solve one of my questions there are London Below is not the only underworld in the world.
Yep, I'll need to reread if something doesn't make sense. I was very confused by it. Now it makes sense. :)
29) Till now it doesn't seem like they have feelings for each other but I am not sure. I don't want Richard to end up with Jessica she seems like a dominating character and Door doesn't have anyone else. I don't know, it depends on Richard I guess.
We shall see.
30) Frankly, He is showing a traits of lots of creatures. I wouldn't me much surprised if in the end if he turns out to be the true Beast of London
That would be an interesting twist. I like it.
31) Richard, I still say premonition, For Door a lost lesson, one she should pay attention to. Hunter, heart's desire, the rush and feel of killing a being greater than her
Past, Present, and future. I like your observations. Seems like that is what each is dwelling on at the moment--Door, what happened in the past. Richard--what his future will be. Hunter--in what can be done in the here and now.
32) The box is more than that I think. There is some kind of a secret the marquis is holding back and I think he is putting the pieces together. Old Bailey seems like a messenger or a seer
I am curious about both the box and Bailey.
35) Richard survived the ordeal because of his kind heart. The beads he kept in his pocket to remind him of the rat speaker girl saved him
I like that the beads seemed to give him a center.
36) The three tests is the common theme in most fairy tales and like in all fairy tales it helps the character develop and mature. Look what happened to Richard. Finally he is being useful
Three does seem to be a magic number.
37) I am going with Lucy on this one. May be she will save them all in the end. The ultimate Oracle. She may be the shadow or descendent of the oracle of delphi at the rate this book is going :D
That would be cool.
Lucy said, "So, I have already finished with today's reading thanks to my advanced time zone (hehe) and WOW some of our questions are answered.AND BETRAYAL!! I was in shock.
Edited after reading Parvathy's post: You figured it out! "
Now I'm curious what Parvathy got right. She had a lot of great theories.
Questions and Comments for Chapters 13 - 1638) Okay Parvathy if I ever play the lottery I'll be asking you for advice on which numbers to choose. lol Too bad we can't assign member nicknames to people I'd give you super sleuth status. :) You guessed right.
Hunter betrayed the group.
39)Who would have pegged the angel to be such a scoundrel? Gah! I should have figured he'd be a fallen angel, or at least I'm assuming he's fallen. Is he trying to free himself?
40) Do you suppose that memory about the lost journal had something to do with why there was a request for Door seek out the assistance of Islington? Could the Angel have written that in himself? Why did he at first want Door dead or did he?
41) So the silver box Old Bailey was keeping contained the marquis' life. So I was correct when I said it might contain his soul.
42) I don't know about anyone else but I thought it strange that bodies were being sold at the floating market by the sewer folk.
43) So Parvathy was it you or Lucy who predicted that Richard's dream would come true? Good call. What did you make of Hunter's death?
44) So the beast was the key to get through the Labrinth and into Islington's prison. Blood in his eyes and on his tongue.
45) What did you think of the velvet lady? Were you surprised the Marquis saved Richard?
46) Predictions as to what will happen at the end? Will Richard get his life back? Will Door avenge her family? Will Richard and Jessica be reunited?
38) Okay Parvathy if I ever play the lottery I'll be asking you for advice on which numbers to choose. lol Too bad we can't assign member nicknames to people I'd give you super sleuth status. :) You guessed right. Hunter betrayed the group.
HUNTER! But I only hated her for like 30 secs. I still kind of liked her through the whole beast fight scene.
39)Who would have pegged the angel to be such a scoundrel? Gah! I should have figured he'd be a fallen angel, or at least I'm assuming he's fallen. Is he trying to free himself?
Haha "scoundrel" is the perfect word for him. I accidently read ahead a chapter so I am going to keep mum about this question
40) Do you suppose that memory about the lost journal had something to do with why there was a request for Door seek out the assistance of Islington? Could the Angel have written that in himself? Why did he at first want Door dead or did he?
As soon as we learned that the Angel was not so great I mistrusted the journal entry. Remember that weirdness about finding the journal? How it wasn't there the first time Door looked, but then it was?
41) So the silver box Old Bailey was keeping contained the marquis' life. So I was correct when I said it might contain his soul.
This was such a funny scene to try to imagine, with Old Bailey splatting the egg over the dead marquis. I gotta hand it to Gaiman, I would never be able to make up this stuff
42) I don't know about anyone else but I thought it strange that bodies were being sold at the floating market by the sewer folk.
I also thought this was weird. In the run up to that scene I imagined that they would sell all his stuff but surely leave the body! I love that it was traded for some perfume :)
43) So Parvathy was it you or Lucy who predicted that Richard's dream would come true? Good call. What did you make of Hunter's death?
I think we were both in agreement that Richard's dream was going to come true. (Although I kind of wish that Croup or Vandemar were the beast- that would have been awesome!). I thought that Hunter sort of deserved to die as payment for her betrayal. And it makes sense that she would die by the thing she betrayed them for.
44) So the beast was the key to get through the Labrinth and into Islington's prison. Blood in his eyes and on his tongue.
I liked how the taste was described as natural (or something like that).
45) What did you think of the velvet lady? Were you surprised the Marquis saved Richard?
I knew Richard was being played from the start! I was only surprised that Door and Hunter didn't keep a closer eye on him. I expected that Richard would get saved but I thought it would be from Hunter coming back to save him, not from the Marquis arriving.
46) Predictions as to what will happen at the end? Will Richard get his life back? Will Door avenge her family? Will Richard and Jessica be reunited?
I still have hope that Richard will get his life back, or at least join London Above again. I do not think that his job or relationship is salvageable though, so it will be a messy re-start. I don't know what the future will be for Door. She is all alone and she can't feel comfortable in her house anymore. I hope that Gaiman came up with something satisfying for the end of her story.
38) Okay Parvathy if I ever play the lottery I'll be asking you for advice on which numbers to choose. lol Too bad we can't assign member nicknames to people I'd give you super sleuth status. :) You guessed right. Hunter betrayed the group.
Thank you, that nickname would have been really cool. I was going by the method of elimination if not Marquis or Richard then Hunter and her dreams and the passion with which she talked about killing the London Beast was kind of a Red Flag. I am surprised none of the characters asked this question when Hunter said that her mission was to kill the beast. I mean how was she sure that she would encounter the beast while travelling with them if she already didn't know they have to go through the maze.
39)Who would have pegged the angel to be such a scoundrel? Gah! I should have figured he'd be a fallen angel, or at least I'm assuming he's fallen. Is he trying to free himself?
Yes, should have known by the way he was confined to that room and the reaction of the Black Friars when the key was taken was a warning in a sense that Islington was up to no good but the journal was a strong evidence in his favor which did leave me in a bit of a shock.
40) Do you suppose that memory about the lost journal had something to do with why there was a request for Door seek out the assistance of Islington? Could the Angel have written that in himself? Why did he at first want Door dead or did he?
Yes, in the dream Door's father was saying to concentrate stating that everything wants to open on its own. It may be what the dream is telling us that the journal was meant to be found which makes it more probable that the journal was tampered with. I think he is keeping Door alive for the purpose of opening something, after all that is what Mr Vandermar told the Marquis.
41) So the silver box Old Bailey was keeping contained the marquis' life. So I was correct when I said it might contain his soul.
Yes, Thank god for that I didn't want the Marquis character to die. The silver box was kind of like a Horcrux. Is it me or does the book have some similarities to Harry Potter, at least regarding some concepts
42) I don't know about anyone else but I thought it strange that bodies were being sold at the floating market by the sewer folk.
It would have strange but since they are folks of London below I feel like it is justified. There are all manner of people down there interested in different kinds of things.
43) So Parvathy was it you or Lucy who predicted that Richard's dream would come true? Good call. What did you make of Hunter's death?
Dream coming true was a common idea. Hunter's death seems like a bit orchestrated. She betrayed the group so she should get her just rewards, it was like the only way to redeem the character. I didn't like it, after all her talk about killing so many monsters she felt like an easy pray. Moreover even though she did betray Door she did save Richard a lot of times when she absolutely had no obligation to save his life. So she is redeemed in my eye
44) So the beast was the key to get through the Labrinth and into Islington's prison. Blood in his eyes and on his tongue.
Kind of unexpected but not disappointed. I thought Richard will get super strength or something after killing the beast. But it seems he gets only a super sense of direction but who knows.
45) What did you think of the velvet lady? Were you surprised the Marquis saved Richard?
Thought she was something like that. Is it just me or is anyone else annoyed by the lack of warning in this book. Everyone knows everything but fails to warn others. Richard was finally growing a backbone but for all the wrong reasons but didn't think the marquis would show up so soon.
46) Predictions as to what will happen at the end? Will Richard get his life back? Will Door avenge her family? Will Richard and Jessica be reunited?
Richard gets his life back. Door will avenge her family. Richard reuniting with Jessica, hoping that is not the case. But eventually Richard will realize he liked London Below and Door because lets face it his real life is utterly boring.
Questions & Comments for Chapters 17 - End1) So I think we all predicted how this section would end--Door is saved and avenges her family, Richard gets his life back, etc. Door opening up a door that did not lead to heaven was a nice touch. Did it bother you that we don't know what happened to Door's sister? This one left a lot to your own imagination. Do you like when an author does this or not?
2) Did you like that Richard was given a choice and then a second chance to live in London Below?
3) Did you like that Door ending up rescuing herself?
4) What do you make of the title Neverwhere? Is it a spin on Neverland? Does it seem appropriate that those who end up falling between the cracks are as if they never were?
5) Overall thoughts of the book? What will you rate it?
6) So if you had to pick between your current life and a Neverwhere which would you pick?
1) So I think we all predicted how this section would end--Door is saved and avenges her family, Richard gets his life back, etc. Door opening up a door that did not lead to heaven was a nice touch. Did it bother you that we don't know what happened to Door's sister? This one left a lot to your own imagination. Do you like when an author does this or not?We predicted that Richard would get his life back, but I didn't think he would then choose to go back to London below.
I don't mind that we don't know about Door's sister. She wasn't part of this story and she is convenient for giving Door something to do now. There are some other unanswered questions as well- like any backstory on the Marquis at all, and why did he owe a favor to Door? I don't mind these unanswered questions though because Gaiman does do a good job at bringing closure to the book in the last few chapters.
2) Did you like that Richard was given a choice and then a second chance to live in London Below?
I like that he had a choice. I felt like the universe was being very indulgent in letting him have a second choice.
Any Buffy fans here? There is this crazy episode where it flashes between her life as Buffy the Vampire Slayer and her life as just regular Buffy in a mental institution where her parents are trying to help her get better and break out of her delusions. She alternates between killing vamps with her friends in her mind and trying to get better with her parents in the "real world". It is heartbreaking when she chooses her fun vampire killing life over real life and her family. It turns out that the mental instution bit is fake- spell or poisen or something- and vampire killing is her real life, but I always had in the back of my mind during the series that maybe every episode was a delusion and she was just a poor crazy girl in a hospital. Neverwhere reminded me of this Buffy episode. Richard's Ordeal, his talk with Gary about madness, and then his peculiar behavior in the alley trying to get back to London below it really made me stop and wonder about whether he was crazy.
3) Did you like that Door ending up rescuing herself?
Yes she was awesome. I did not see that ending coming.
4) What do you make of the title Neverwhere? Is it a spin on Neverland? Does it seem appropriate that those who end up falling between the cracks are as if they never were?
I'm glad you asked this question, because it was bugging me too. You used the example of people falling through the cracks, but it's places too (hence, "where"). Maybe "Neverwhere" is another name for London Below? Or it's a state of being like- the old house is neverwhere. I don't know what I'm trying to say. LOL
5) Overall thoughts of the book? What will you rate it?
I will give it 3 out of 5. It was entertaining enough, I didn't love it.
6) So if you had to pick between your current life and a Neverwhere which would you pick? CURRENT LIFE! London below did not seem appealing to me at all!
1) So I think we all predicted how this section would end--Door is saved and avenges her family, Richard gets his life back, etc. Door opening up a door that did not lead to heaven was a nice touch. Did it bother you that we don't know what happened to Door's sister? This one left a lot to your own imagination. Do you like when an author does this or not?Yes, didn't see one that coming, Door making a duplicate key that is. There are a lot of things left unfinished by the end of the book.
a)What happened to Door's sister? Will she ever find her?
b) Why was Richard able to see Door while other could never see a person from London Below?
c)What kind of creatures were Mr Coup and Vandermar?
d)Why did Richard have the dream he had about killing the Beast?
e)Who is Serpentine? Why did she call Richard Door's hero when we know that in the end it is Door who saves them all?
So many questions left unanswered...It was kind of an incomplete end for me.
2) Did you like that Richard was given a choice and then a second chance to live in London Below?
Yes, that way he would never regret the choice not taken. Now he knows he could never be happy with an ordinary life. Otherwise he would have been left unhappy and wondering. Now it is an informed choice.
I am a Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan too. Used to stay up late night to watch reruns. So sad when the cancelled the reruns. But I don't think I have seen that episode. Sure seems like an interesting one though. Have seen a supernatural episode like this one where Dean gets attacked by a Jinn and ends up in an alternate reality where he and Sam have a normal life but he trades for the real one with monsters and ghouls in the end.
3) Did you like that Door ending up rescuing herself?
Yes, even though I half expected Richard to do it. I guess Richard's purpose was to get the key and kill the beast
4) What do you make of the title Neverwhere? Is it a spin on Neverland? Does it seem appropriate that those who end up falling between the cracks are as if they never were?
Thinking like that the title seem appropriate. At first I thought it was another name for London Below. The people who fall through cracks are wiped out from existence. As for being a spin on "Neverland" I don't know "Neverland" is like a bright and sunny place with mermaids, pirates, fairies and Indians. "Neverwhere" on the other hand talks about the is dark and dusty "London below" with rats, beasts and monsters.May be it is an opposite of Neverland. For one entrance is in the sky and for other it is through the cracks in the Earth.
5) Overall thoughts of the book? What will you rate it?
In the beginning I liked the book so much that I was sure I was going to give it 5 stars. Then it became kind of predictable in the middle and the end left a lot of questions unanswered. So I gave it 4 stars mainly because it was entertaining and of all the fresh concepts.
6) So if you had to pick between your current life and a Neverwhere which would you pick?
Current life. I find the London Below amusing but living there, not so much.
@Parvathy 1) a)What happened to Door's sister? Will she ever find her?
b) Why was Richard able to see Door while other could never see a person from London Below?
c)What kind of creatures were Mr Coup and Vandermar?
d)Why did Richard have the dream he had about killing the Beast?
e)Who is Serpentine? Why did she call Richard Door's hero when we know that in the end it is Door who saves them all?
So many questions left unanswered...It was kind of an incomplete end for me.
For me too and that's why I stated it left a lot up to ones imagination. I'd have liked more answers, but I had a suspicion as we got closer to the end a lot of loose ends would be left dangling and they were.
Why was Richard able to see Door while other could never see a person from London Below?
I wondered if it was because Door was different. Perhaps she is one of the doorways between worlds and therefore is one of the few who could live in both.
4)Thinking like that the title seem appropriate. At first I thought it was another name for London Below. The people who fall through cracks are wiped out from existence. As for being a spin on "Neverland" I don't know "Neverland" is like a bright and sunny place with mermaids, pirates, fairies and Indians. "Neverwhere" on the other hand talks about the is dark and dusty "London below" with rats, beasts and monsters.May be it is an opposite of Neverland. For one entrance is in the sky and for other it is through the cracks in the Earth.
That was my exact thought that it was the anti Neverland. In Neverland you never grow up, but in Neverwhere you grow up to fast and your life could be a mere blink of an eye.
5) In the beginning I liked the book so much that I was sure I was going to give it 5 stars. Then it became kind of predictable in the middle and the end left a lot of questions unanswered. So I gave it 4 stars mainly because it was entertaining and of all the fresh concepts.
I felt the same, but I think I'll probably be giving it a 3.
@ Lucy1) I don't mind that we don't know about Door's sister. She wasn't part of this story and she is convenient for giving Door something to do now. There are some other unanswered questions as well- like any backstory on the Marquis at all, and why did he owe a favor to Door? I don't mind these unanswered questions though because Gaiman does do a good job at bringing closure to the book in the last few chapters.
I thought Door now owed the Marquis a huge favor? The original debt he had was to her father.
2) Any Buffy fans here? There is this crazy episode where it flashes between her life as Buffy the Vampire Slayer and her life as just regular Buffy in a mental institution where her parents are trying to help her get better and break out of her delusions. She alternates between killing vamps with her friends in her mind and trying to get better with her parents in the "real world". It is heartbreaking when she chooses her fun vampire killing life over real life and her family. It turns out that the mental instution bit is fake- spell or poisen or something- and vampire killing is her real life, but I always had in the back of my mind during the series that maybe every episode was a delusion and she was just a poor crazy girl in a hospital. Neverwhere reminded me of this Buffy episode. Richard's Ordeal, his talk with Gary about madness, and then his peculiar behavior in the alley trying to get back to London below it really made me stop and wonder about whether he was crazy.
I do remember seeing the previews for that episode but can't recall if I actually watched it. Richard did appear as though he could have been crazy. Strange that he, just like in the Ordeal, sought out council from Gary. Gary did not strike me as the type to give anyone any profound knowledge or advice. Perhaps Gaiman ended things this way so that the reader could decide for themselves what they believed?
4) I'm glad you asked this question, because it was bugging me too. You used the example of people falling through the cracks, but it's places too (hence, "where"). Maybe "Neverwhere" is another name for London Below? Or it's a state of being like- the old house is neverwhere. I don't know what I'm trying to say. LOL
I do know what your saying--if houses can be built of rooms that no longer exist they are no where and the place they supposedly presently preside never existed, hence Neverwhere is the name. Of course that makes me wonder if this is supposed to be one man's journey to insanity??? I'd rather think he truly did travel somewhere, however, and not just in his mind.
6) I definitely would choose a normal life to that of London Below.
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There is a chance that Door's family came from Atlantis because the Angel did say he got the wine as a gift from Door's great grandfather or something. Since the wine is from Atlantis it is possible he was living there too.
26) Pavarthy, you called it when you asked, "Does this make Richard special?" It appears he is special. At least special enough to pass a test many don't survive. Serpentine called him Door's hero. Interesting.
Serpentine did say it was something in his eyes. May be Richard' kind heart is the one that makes him special. She might have seen in his eyes that he is not the kind of person to abandon his friends which makes him a hero. Also the beads belonged that was in his pocket belonged to Anaesthesia. He kept it as a reminder of her and it is his concern for her that ultimately saved him
27) I was wrong about Marquis de Carrabas. He is not the one who hired the bad guys. Did you notice the reference to the fairy tale? He must have picked his name from the fairy tale Puss n Boots. I wish I could remember the character better from the story.
Me too, I have to reread the tale to know how exactly the character fits in to the story. So we were wrong about De Carrabas but the more improtant question is if we rule out De Carrabas and Richard as the traitors in Door's team then that leaves only Hunter. Do you think Hunter has a secret agenda other than killing the monster as she claims.
28) Door has killed many a terrible beast. Looks like she's got her sights set on the Beast of London. If she's so fierce, why does she need a body guard?
It is not Door who killed the beast but Hunter. Hunter is the one who is on the mission to kill the Beast of London. This did solve one of my questions there are London Below is not the only underworld in the world.
29) Are Door and Richard going to become romantically involved? I didn't thing this story would have a romance, but now I'm wondering.
Till now it doesn't seem like they have feelings for each other but I am not sure. I don't want Richard to end up with Jessica she seems like a dominating character and Door doesn't have anyone else. I don't know, it depends on Richard I guess.
30) Mr. Croup is displaying serpent type traits.
Frankly, He is showing a traits of lots of creatures. I wouldn't me much surprised if in the end if he turns out to be the true Beast of London
31) It seems like Richard dreamed of the Beast of London. Door dreamed of her father and his journal and him teaching her to unlock doors. Hunter, dreamed of killing some snake like beast. Does anyone see any significance in these? I'm not sure.
Richard, I still say premonition, For Door a lost lesson, one she should pay attention to. Hunter, heart's desire, the rush and feel of killing a being greater than her
32) Who is the Old Bailey exactly? So the box the marquis de carabas gave to the Old Bailey lets him know when he's in trouble?
The box is more than that I think. There is some kind of a secret the marquis is holding back and I think he is putting the pieces together. Old Bailey seems like a messenger or a seer
33) The time line question is finally answered: "There are little pockets of old time in London, where things and places stay the same, like bubbles in amber," she explained. "There's a lot of time in London, and it has to go somewhere--it doesn't all get used up at once.
Yep, thought it was something like this
34) What did you think of the London Fog?
In one word "GROSS". But I liked the idea of the shadow of the fog surviving in London Below when it has been wiped out from London above.
35) Why do you think Richard survived the Ordeal? Is it because he's so easy going or just not very guilible?
Richard survived the ordeal because of his kind heart. The beads he kept in his pocket to remind him of the rat speaker girl saved him
36) What did you think of the Black Friars and their tests?
That was nice touch. I always liked the idea of people passing test to reach the goal. I have to agree with Lucy regarding the fairy tale part. The three tests is the common theme in most fairy tales and like in all fairy tales it helps the character develop and mature. Look what happened to Richard. Finally he is being useful
37) Parvathy asked in regards to the old lady at the beginning of the book, "Wonder why she thought Richard was homeless at first even though he just came out of the party and was dressed for it." I thought it was because they said he looked like he had a rumpled just gotten out of bed look to him, however, after this scene I think perhaps she foresaw more than I gave her credit for.
I am going with Lucy on this one. May be she will save them all in the end. The ultimate Oracle. She may be the shadow or descendent of the oracle of delphi at the rate this book is going :D
38) Do you think someone will save the marquis?
Yes, Old Bailey himself or sent message to someone who can