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Jul 14, 2012 07:45PM
sooo, just me, or did anyone else just gasp with the whole christian the sub situation?! Number one, like she says, its just wrong. Number two it is heartbreaking, and, i think shows the complete broken-ness of his inner self. Just made my heart absolutely break . . .
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I would have to agree! I cried and it broke my heart to see Fifty so broken and helpless.
Well we knew that he was (view spoiler) but to see him like that now, it just was not the same (view spoiler) This was as if something inside him died (view spoiler) It was truly heartbreaking. On the other hand, it is good to see that he loves Ana enough to subject himself to that for her, (view spoiler) That's hard for someone who hates loss of control.
I completely agree with all of your points Tabby!
Totally! Its maybe my fav part of the whole series, its when he shows that he cant make it without her that he is desperate for her, and while my heart just breaks everytime I read that part, at the same time im in awe of the power of the situation. Also just love Ana for realizing what he needed, for being down there with him on the floor to pull him back. I love how he is so broken, how he flips through his fifty, and yet at the end has really turned his life around emotionally, yes for Ana, but also for himself. love love love love all of this!
I agree with all of u! It was bittersweet to see how much he needed Anna but the only way he knew how to show it was to be the 'sub' in the situation.
It was a real twist and one I didn't see coming as he came across as being so used to being a Dom. It wrenched my heart and now every time he reveals a little more of his inner self and his awful past, it makes my heart wrench even more.
I just want to hug him!
That scene completely pulled at my heartstirngs. And to have Ana not take advantage of him and be so careful to not touch him while he was like that was just beautiful.
The scene was realy powerful, emotinnally and all. He showes Ana that he's lost end broken without her and I found myself reding the part again. I wanted to hug him too.
That was one of th most powerful scenes of the whole series. That and the scene where he finally allows Ana to touch him. The first time that I read it, I wasn't sure whether I would consider that a form of emotional blackmail. But I don't think he was intentionally trying to be manipulative there. He was just desperate and distraught and couldn't think what to say or do. He slipped into what he was familiar with.
Tabby wrote: "Well we knew that he was [spoilers removed] but to see him like that now, it just was not the same [spoilers removed] This was as if something inside him died [spoilers removed] It was truly heartb..."Yeah, my thoughts exactly!
Powerful! Heart wrenching! It was the only way that Christian could express his heart at the time. There were no words left.
For me, that was one of the most powerful, emotional scenes. It broke my heart and brought tears to my eyes. He just couldn't express himself any other way!!! And it has that effect on me everytime i read it and im on my 4th time!
Sarah wrote: "For me, that was one of the most powerful, emotional scenes. It broke my heart and brought tears to my eyes. He just couldn't express himself any other way!!! And it has that effect on me everytime..."I cried too! His love for her is so overwhelming. That's what makes you love Christian Grey.
That broke my heart. I mean. . .wow, I never saw it coming, and knowing him though the whole series. . .wow. It is absolutely my favorite scene because Christian allows himself to be so vulnerable. IDK why, but the strong, dom Christian was kind of a dick and I didn't like him at all in the first book. But I think he gets better after he met Ana, and after that he was very endearing. I mean insanely. He's pretty amazing. Then there's him in book 3. . .all I can say is that he's awesome.
You hit the nail on the head. This explains why FSOG has captured so many people's heart. They can't get enough of him and have to re-read the story. I'm on my third time.
Absolutely, im on my fifth, although i am reading other erotic romances in between too :) I just can't seem to get enough of it now after reading FSOG :) xx
Agreed with you ladies, that was my favorite scene through out the entire series. It's the scene where he finally lets her touch him. I cried for hours. I cried every time I re-read the book (five times already).
I am just about to re read that part again now, about 2 to 3 pages away from it, so i had better get my tissues ready now! Even though i have read them 5 times :( Gives me an empty feeling in my stomach too!
Samountha wrote: "Agreed with you ladies, that was my favorite scene through out the entire series. It's the scene where he finally lets her touch him. I cried for hours. I cried every time I re-read the book (five ..."You and me both. There were many times I cried and laughed throughout the story. I can cry during a Bud commercial with the Clidesdale horses galloping to "I'll be Home for Christmas."
I bought the tapes and I'm enjoying it more. The reader is quite good, but I wish they had a guy doing the voice-over for Christian & the other males in the story.
I want my very own "Christian Grey" I would give up a hell of lot for one of my own! lol (",)
Sarah I want my own too!! These books got into my head and heart and I could not stop thinking about them. I loved how Ana was able to be patient and loving enough to try his lifestyle and that he loved her enoght to let go of some of his control. Has everyone here read all 3?
Melissa wrote: "Sarah I want my own too!! These books got into my head and heart and I could not stop thinking about them. I loved how Ana was able to be patient and loving enough to try his lifestyle and that he ..."I know Melissa, it gives me a lump in my throat everytime i read them. What i wouldn't give to have a relationship like theirs, so much love, and excitement! The only thing that gets me down is that its pure fiction!!! How i wish real life could be like this!!! lol :( x
It would be great to have a man love me that much and do all of the things Christian did for Ana.
Sarah Jane wrote: "Melissa wrote: "Sarah I want my own too!! These books got into my head and heart and I could not stop thinking about them. I loved how Ana was able to be patient and loving enough to try his lifest..."Sarah Jane wrote: "Melissa wrote: "Sarah I want my own too!! These books got into my head and heart and I could not stop thinking about them. I loved how Ana was able to be patient and loving enough to try his lifest..."
I'm addicted to Christian's & Ana's story. I'm almost done listening to the tapes, #3 and I know I'll listen to it again. This is the 3rd time!
I think I would settle for the mind blowing sex too!!
Oh yes Melissa, I would certainly settle for the mind blowing sex!! ha ha :)
For all you ladies who are suffering from withdrawal symptoms from FSOG, there is a website called Meet Fifty Shades Continued.... christiangrey50shades.blogspot.com. The author has written a disclaimer at the beginning. He's written 20 chapters, (I downloaded all of them), in the POV of Christian Grey. It's as though E L James has written it herself. He's written it beautifully. Enjoy!! :)Ellie
Wasn't surprising, I always thought that Ana main transformation would be that Ana became a dominate like Fifty shades, in the same way Bella became a vampire like Edward. So I thought fifty shades would be the sub somewhere long the way. Was disppointed that Ana didn't become a dominate. I probably have more respect for Ana if she at least tried the dominate role, maybe not at that scene, but later on when everyone is all healed.
Go to the site Meet Fifty Shades Continued. It's written in Christian's POV. There are 33 Chapters you can copy. It's amazing.I'm glad Ana changed him for the better. They still played their little games without the violence.
I would love for EL James to write a prequel... Christian: from brawling adolescent, to Elena's sub, to becoming a Dom himself. And it can end with Ana falling into his office...
Roseycortes wrote: "sooo, just me, or did anyone else just gasp with the whole christian the sub situation?! Number one, like she says, its just wrong. Number two it is heartbreaking, and, i think shows the complete b..."i agree it really scared and surprised me.
You know, when I read this section of Darker, the song that immediately came to mind was Please Don't Go by Boyz II Men. That might seem corny, but now I listen to that song almost everyday. When I hear it, I envision Christian on his knees begging Ana not to leave him. The pain in his voice (as depicted by E L James) is so raw and so palpable. It reminds me of the words to this song. :::sigh::: My poor Fifty.
Lynne wrote: "You know, when I read this section of Darker, the song that immediately came to mind was Please Don't Go by Boyz II Men. That might seem corny, but now I listen to that song almost everyday. When I..."Lynne, there's another song by Snow Patrol that does the same thing to me. It's called What if the Storm Ends. When you listen to it, you can't help but think of Christian & Ana. It's one of the songs James chose for the soundtrack.
Ellie wrote: "Lynne, there's another song by Snow Patrol that does the same thing to me. It's called What if the Storm Ends. When you listen to it, you can't help but think of Christian & Ana. It's one of the songs James chose for the soundtrack. I have this downloaded to my Spotify account on my FSOG song list! I'll have to listen to the words more carefully.
Melissa wrote: "It would be great to have a man love me that much and do all of the things Christian did for Ana."Yep I agree
Roseycortes wrote: "sooo, just me, or did anyone else just gasp with the whole christian the sub situation?! Number one, like she says, its just wrong. Number two it is heartbreaking, and, i think shows the complete b..."I was a bit startled to find Christian going down on his knees like a sub Actually ended up reading that part twice to make sure I read write and it was definitely gut wrenching and I never thought he would actually do that must say the best part of the whole book
Sweekruti wrote: "Melissa wrote: "It would be great to have a man love me that much and do all of the things Christian did for Ana."Yep I agree"
I couldn't agree with you more. That is what's so compelling about this story...his deep love for her. It brought tears to my eyes when he got down on his knees to her, as her submissive.
Ellie wrote: "Sweekruti wrote: "Melissa wrote: "It would be great to have a man love me that much and do all of the things Christian did for Ana."Yep I agree"
I couldn't agree with you more. That is what's so..."
The thought itself was so moving that it was really difficult to envision it and wrenches your soul
Roseycortes wrote: "sooo, just me, or did anyone else just gasp with the whole christian the sub situation?! Number one, like she says, its just wrong. Number two it is heartbreaking, and, i think shows the complete b..."I don't think I could have said it better myself!! :-)
Roseycortes wrote: "sooo, just me, or did anyone else just gasp with the whole christian the sub situation?! Number one, like she says, its just wrong. Number two it is heartbreaking, and, i think shows the complete b..."Oh my... me too! To see him get down on his knees like that... it broke my heart! I think this scene demonstrated how truly vulnerable Christian is, and how difficult it is for him to manage his feelings and emotions in a healthy way. He responded to the situation the only way he knew how... and it was sad to see (to read!).
This scene was intense to read, and to me, this series is filled with intensity! And that's what makes it so good!
Martine wrote: "Roseycortes wrote: "sooo, just me, or did anyone else just gasp with the whole christian the sub situation?! Number one, like she says, its just wrong. Number two it is heartbreaking, and, i think ..."I totally agree. I think I actually might have yelled, "NO" out loud! lol
Roseycortes wrote: "sooo, just me, or did anyone else just gasp with the whole christian the sub situation?! Number one, like she says, its just wrong. Number two it is heartbreaking, and, i think shows the complete b..."It was thematically symbolic, because Christian would rather revert to his old position as a sub and give Ana the control than have her leave him. Thematically speaking it is significant to Christian's growth as a human being, and also because it shows his lack of understanding of how relationships work. Ana wants an equal partnership--he doesn't understand how that works because in his personal experience one person must always hold power and the other must always be obedient whether in bed or in public. I started crying during this scene because of how significant a statement it was to his character.
That scene gets me all the time. Christian is such a dominant man. He positioned as a sub kneeling in front of Ana because he couldn't bear it if she left him again. He sacrificed that power right there--it was heartbreaking.
That scene definitely gets me everytime. I get angry and cry. It shows just how broken he is and he would give anything for her not to leave him.
Mochaspresso wrote: "That was one of th most powerful scenes of the whole series. That and the scene where he finally allows Ana to touch him. The first time that I read it, I wasn't sure whether I would consider tha..."Good analysis!
It breaks my heart that it breaks everyone elses heart to see Christian be a sub and yet its completely ok for Ana to be a sub. Just because he has a penis doesn't mean he can't get smacked around a little.
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