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The next ship in that class being built will be the USS Hudner, named for MOH recipient Thomas Hudner, one of the two major ficures in my friend Adam Makos' book "Devotion"
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I picked up a used copy of Lady Antonia Fraser's The Pleasure of Reading. It contains 41 essays by prominent writers about what they read, how they became readers, and each essay ends with a few paragraphs on their favorite books. A few titles recur among the various authors' favorites: Samuel Butler's The Way of All Flesh, Stendhal's The Red and the Black, Waugh's Decline and Fall , and Sterne's Tristram Shandy.I've read the Waugh, but none of the others.
Those are some good books on the list, Manray! I liked The Way of All Flesh probably the most of all of them. Always good to see what your fav authors like to read.
Attached is a link to a story about today's agreement between Belgium and the Netherlands to swap land to rationalize their borders along the Meuse (Maas). I heard a radio report about it today. It's good to see two nations act maturely and responsibly to fix a problem. The reason I posted it here is -- if you look at the map embedded in the Slate article (click on "View Larger Map") you'll see the land swapped is adjacent to Fort Eben-Emael of WW II fame.http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slates...
Very interesting Manray9. I have wandered the area extensively and my daughter was born a short distance away in Heerlen. Never heard of this little problem but then no headless bodies turned up back then I guess.
Manray9 wrote: "Attached is a link to a story about today's agreement between Belgium and the Netherlands to swap land to rationalize their borders along the Meuse (Maas). I heard a radio report about it today. It..."OMG thx a bunch! our national media don't exactly pay much attention to this. We did pretty much draw borders wherever the musketballs fell in the 1830's, but it gets even weirder:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19925_...
(several detailed links in the article).
Manray9 wrote: "Attached is a link to a story about today's agreement between Belgium and the Netherlands to swap land to rationalize their borders along the Meuse (Maas). I heard a radio report about it today. It..."A group that lives on war books celebrates peace.
Thank you MR9, that's a good way to start a new year, reaching here in 5 hours. Many thanks also to the moderators of this group, AR, GV, Mike and Michael. Most of all to all members who unselfishly share their knowledge, thoughts, and book recommendations!
Happy New Year!
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And the same to you Chin Joo and to all our members wherever they are and with what ever religion or beliefs they have in celebrating new year today or later.I look forward to more book discussions from the group in 2016 and have appreciated the wide ranging interests, views and expertise expressed by everyone.
May I echo Geevee, Chin Joo and Dimitri and wish all a Happy New Year! May it bring many good books to your shelf.
Chin Joo wrote: "Manray9 wrote: "Attached is a link to a story about today's agreement between Belgium and the Netherlands to swap land to rationalize their borders along the Meuse (Maas). I heard a radio report ab..."Thanks, Chin Joo and I second your thanks to the moderators.
Dimitri wrote: "Manray9 wrote: "Attached is a link to a story about today's agreement between Belgium and the Netherlands to swap land to rationalize their borders along the Meuse (Maas). I heard a radio report ab..."That's good, Dimitri. Earlier this year India and Bangladesh swapped a number of enclaves that had existed since the partition. The swap was mentioned in the Slate article and the link you provided mentions the enclaves.
Manray9 wrote: "Attached is a link to a story about today's agreement between Belgium and the Netherlands to swap land to rationalize their borders along the Meuse (Maas)."Ah, the Netherlands and Belgium, being good neighbours since 1830. Hi Dimitri :-)
Let me take this opportunity to wish everybody in this group a happy New Year and all the best for 2016!
And now: oliebollen!
Manray9,Great link; thanks.
Happy New Year to all! Thanks for all your 2015 recommendations; I look forward to the next 366 days worth.
Happy New Year to everyone in the group and I would also like to thank the moderators for their efforts and also the group members for making this such an enjoyable and informative group, all the best for 2016!
HAPPY NEW YEAR to all! I am sorry I haven't been very active in the group, lately. I haven't been able to spend as much time on Goodreads as I would have liked to.
Nooilforpacifists wrote: "Manray9,Great link; thanks.
Happy New Year to all! Thanks for all your 2015 recommendations; I look forward to the next 366 days worth."
Oh yay Manray! Forgot it was going to be a leap year with a extra day to read!
Happy New Year to all. Hope to finally get involved and read and talk with you all about European World War II History. Published my own book: Escaping the Russian Bear this fall. An Estonian girls memoir of loss and survival during WW II. Since I was still a young child there is so much that I did not understand of the big picture.Kristina
not unusual, many politicians review research their predecessors. Hitler was the master of charisma until "YOBAMA" came along, and both had little substance. The main difference is that Hitler virtually eliminated unemployment and the welfare state, forcing people into employment, while Obama expanded it into an entitlement program to hook potential voters, who will continue to vote liberal to keep it.
Colin wrote: "not unusual, many politicians review research their predecessors. Hitler was the master of charisma until "YOBAMA" came along, and both had little substance. The main difference is that Hitler virt..."Sorry, Colin, I don't agree.
Colin wrote: "not unusual, many politicians review research their predecessors. Hitler was the master of charisma until "YOBAMA" came along, and both had little substance. The main difference is that Hitler virt..."The numbers don't support your position, but that is all I have to say on the subject since it really has nothing to do with the group. Your comparison is a highly tenuous stretch at best. The only politician I would compare to Hitler at the Moment is the Donald, who is using hate and fear tactics to try and win the electorate to his side.
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Folks, So as we remove any chance of disagreement, possible misinterpretation or worse upset in respect of people's posts let's refrain from comparisons to modern day politicians and leaders please.
I used the comparison in general terms, from having interviewed over 100 Germans who met or even worked with/for Hitler, and many who know Obama and worked within the administration. The Donald is simply stating the obvious, although I agree he goes a little too far on occasions. However, the anti-capitalist liberal mind is a self destructive organism when the life's blood of a nation is a free market economy. That is the only kind that works.
Thanks Geevee for your post.Folks lets try and keep current politics out of the discussion, nothing is bound to get people worked up more than talk about politics and religion, this group is to discuss WW2 history and books on that subject.
Colin wrote: "not unusual, many politicians review research their predecessors. Hitler was the master of charisma until "YOBAMA" came along, and both had little substance. The main difference is that Hitler virt..."You are 100% spot on, Colin. It is sad to see what America has become recently. praying that 2016 will change things for the better.
'Aussie Rick' wrote: "Thanks Geevee for your post.Folks lets try and keep current politics out of the discussion, nothing is bound to get people worked up more than talk about politics and religion, this group is to d..."
Those who refuse to remember history are doomed to repeat it!
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Anne wrote: "'Those who refuse to remember history are doomed to repeat it! ..."I don't disagree Anne, although I do not agree in what you may be suggesting in that a group such as this is refusing to remember history; simply this isn't a group to discuss modern day politics especially with comparisons to WWII leaders.
Remember too that it is not a US only group, so we have members from across the globe and likely many will have opinions of the modern day nation that others from the US or wider may agree or disagree with.
I support the moderators. If you want to belabor present day politicians in your own or other countries, do it elsewhere. This group is for discussion of books about WW II.
Well said everyone. I doubt anyone here has not read about the forgotten lessons of history but lets keep the discussion about good books, good authors and WW2 history.
Happy New Year to all. Naval types, and others, will be interested in the Daily Telegraph obituary for Lieutenant-Commander David Balme who led the boarding party that recovered the Enigma machine from U110, subject as we know of the infamous Hollywood U571. Balme seems to have been remarkably magnanimous about that! He also had an incredibly varied war. A great naval hero,http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obitu...
Ian wrote: "Happy New Year to all. Naval types, and others, will be interested in the Daily Telegraph obituary for Lieutenant-Commander David Balme who led the boarding party that recovered the Enigma machine ..."Great story, what an amazing hero.
Ian wrote: "Happy New Year to all. Naval types, and others, will be interested in the Daily Telegraph obituary for Lieutenant-Commander David Balme who led the boarding party that recovered the Enigma machine ..."The WW II heroes have dwindled to a pitiful few. I salute Lieutenant Commander Balme. "Fair winds and following seas."
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Ian wrote: "Happy New Year to all. Naval types, and others, will be interested in the Daily Telegraph obituary for Lieutenant-Commander David Balme who led the boarding party that recovered the Enigma machine ..."Thank you for posting Ian. RIP Lt-Cdr Balme.
I was reading a newspaper put out by the US 20th Amored Div, May 1945, while in Germany and in their stories, they refer to the US soldiers as doughs or doughboys. Didn't realize it was still a common term at that time, and that at least for sake of newsprint, they'd use GI. Anyone have an insight on this ?
Geevee wrote: "Anne wrote: "'Those who refuse to remember history are doomed to repeat it! ..."I don't disagree Anne, although I do not agree in what you may be suggesting in that a group such as this is refusi..."
I have always held the thought that the rest of the world must see the US government as some what of a massive case of split personality disorder, since every four to eight years it would appear as if our relations and attitudes towards the rest of the world change in a radical fashion. However living in the US I may have a somewhat skewed view of that.
US policies change depending upon the current narcissist in office, and the collective intellectual bankruptcy of who holds the power in Congress. Both Reps and Dems suffer from chronic "nefarious terminus politcus disgustus" syndrome. This is why term limites must be imposed, among many other changes to Congress.
Bou wrote: "Manray9 wrote: "Attached is a link to a story about today's agreement between Belgium and the Netherlands to swap land to rationalize their borders along the Meuse (Maas)."Ah, the Netherlands and..."
Hey Bou :D
A bookish question to all: Goodreads started less than a decade ago and even if our memory serves us to list every paperback since puberty, would you list on GR the comics you read as a child? My reading was largely classic bandes-dessinée until 10 or so and they're still good to go Brain: Zero sometimes.
Dimitri wrote: "A bookish question to all: Goodreads started less than a decade ago and even if our memory serves us to list every paperback since puberty, would you list on GR the comics you read as a child? My ..."
Dimitri: I started reading what I call "serious books" -- meaning history and nonfiction -- around 1961. That was the time of the Civil War centennial in America so the works of Bruce Catton, Fletcher Pratt, and others were popular. I collected many of the Classic comic book series, but don't list them here. I've been on GR since 2011. My problem is remembering many of the books read since 1961. Often I remember content, but can't recall the title or author's name. I still stumble across references in GR groups to books and say to myself: I read that. Having resided all around the U.S. and abroad, usually I recall a book by where I was when I read it or where and when it was purchased.
I would say -- list whatever you want to. It's your GR account.
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Dimitri wrote: "A bookish question to all: Goodreads started less than a decade ago and even if our memory serves us to list every paperback since puberty, would you list on GR the comics you read as a child? My ..."
List what you like :) I have listed Tintin, Asterix and also the Narnia series, plus Doctor Who from the 70s and books such as the Famous Five and other books I read as a young lad. Comics? Why not?
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