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message 451: by Miss M (last edited Jan 22, 2014 06:52PM) (new)

Miss M | 196 comments Lilo wrote: "Geevee wrote: "Hi Miss M and folks Charley's War is a comic strip from the 1970s/80s and was in Battle - a comic I used to read as a kid, along with The Victor, Warlord, Roy of the Rovers [also dra..."

Charley's War is also on kindle...the first segment was free when I saw/got it recently, but now most are 2.70.

Also, a 'graphic novel' which has some critical acclaim, was recently released:

[book:The Great War: July 1, 1916: The First Day of the Battle of the Somme|17573665]
The Great War July 1, 1916 The First Day of the Battle of the Somme by Joe Sacco by Joe Sacco


message 452: by Miss M (new)

Miss M | 196 comments Another title of potential interest for August:

The Assassination of the Archduke Sarajevo 1914 and the Romance that Changed the World by Greg King
The Assassination of the Archduke: Sarajevo 1914 and the Romance that Changed the World

Also, as Geevee's link reminded me, would highly recommend the diaries of Graf Harry Kessler. I've only read the later volume so far, but plan on catching up with the first very soon.

Journey to the Abyss The Diaries of Count Harry Kessler, 1880-1918 by Harry Kessler
Berlin in Lights The Diaries of Count Harry Kessler (1918-1937) by Harry Kessler

Harry Kessler


message 453: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Miss M wrote: "Another title of potential interest for August:

The Assassination of the Archduke Sarajevo 1914 and the Romance that Changed the World by Greg King
[book:The Assassination of the Archduke..."


Thanks Miss M I was given this for Christmas and will be reading prior to August - let me know if you grab a copy as I'll happily hold fire for you.


message 454: by Miss M (new)

Miss M | 196 comments Geevee,
Just looked and my library has 3 copies. They're all out, but no holds, so I don't think I'd have a super long wait...either now or later...Would you be up for reading in early or mid February?
[Nice present, BTW :)]


message 455: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20091 comments If you guys wanted I could set up a WW1 thread so you can do some buddy reads now and again in August and all WW1 related discussions can be moved there, what do you think?


message 456: by Tionne (new)

Tionne | 255 comments Sounds great, Rick!


message 457: by Lilo (new)

Lilo (liloh-p) | 586 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "If you guys wanted I could set up a WW1 thread so you can do some buddy reads now and again in August and all WW1 related discussions can be moved there, what do you think?"

This would be a great idea. With the centenary of WWI coming up this year, there is a lot of interest for WWI.


message 458: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20091 comments I'll set it up tonight and post the details later on.


message 459: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20091 comments Here is the new thread for discussions and group/buddy reads on books covering the Great War:

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 460: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "Here is the new thread for discussions and group/buddy reads on books covering the Great War:

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/..."


Thanks Rick.


message 461: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Miss M wrote: "Geevee,
Just looked and my library has 3 copies. They're all out, but no holds, so I don't think I'd have a super long wait...either now or later...Would you be up for reading in early or mid Febr..."


Santa is quite the expert ;)
Mid-Feb would be perfect as I have a read on India/Afghanistan with some other GRers. Let me know when you're set.


message 462: by Miss M (new)

Miss M | 196 comments Geevee wrote: "Miss M wrote: "Geevee,
Just looked and my library has 3 copies. They're all out, but no holds, so I don't think I'd have a super long wait...either now or later...Would you be up for reading in ea..."


Sounds good, Geevee--I'll check back in a few weeks, I'm very flexible.


message 463: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Thanks and look forward to it.


message 464: by Lilo (new)

Lilo (liloh-p) | 586 comments My adoptive grandfather participated in the Great War as an officer. I still have a few of his medals. I also have a pocket watch he owned. Its metal is "eaten". He had to participate in a poison gas exercise and had forgotten to take the watch out before he entered the gas chamber.

Does anyone know if such heirlooms are of any monetary value these days? I don't want to sell these items. I am just curious.


message 465: by happy (last edited Feb 21, 2014 09:58PM) (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments This has been around a while, but it was just sent to me at work and I thought some here might appricate it. It always chokes me up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNF28p...


Kudos to the OIC (Officer in Charge)


For those that don't know, when a unit is marching (when "passing in review" in the US Army, you alway march right to left in front of the reviewing stand) the command "Eyes Right" is the way the unit salutes the reviewing offical(RO). The command is given, the Officer leading the formation looks to the right and salutes, the people in the right file keep looking ahead and everyone else in the formation looks right. The command "Eyes Front" is given when the unit is passed the RO, the OIC is drops his salute and everybody looks to the front again

On a side note, I've always enjoyed a military parade (as long as don't have to march in it, esp a whole division). I had to march in one division level parade and I've seen two. When I was assigned to 101st,the division passed in review for the 40th anniversary of D-day (I marched) and a divisional change of command (watched - I didn't have to march in that one) and before the 4th ID deployed to Viet Nam the division passed in review (I was 8 so I didn't have to march in it :), but it did make an impression!)

For those that don't know a division is between 12K-18K people, depending on the type.


message 466: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20091 comments That's a great video clip Happy, thanks for posting it for the members of the group.


message 467: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Thanks Happy I like this video and whenever I watch it like you I seem to get a something in my eye that makes it water.


message 468: by Tionne (new)

Tionne | 255 comments Brilliant video, Happy, thanks for posting! :-)


message 469: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Poor planning and preparation leads to poor performance: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-ca...


message 470: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20091 comments Not real smart eh!


message 471: by happy (last edited Feb 21, 2014 10:13PM) (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments When ever anything went wrong my first Bn Cdr always brought up the 6 P's, while he was taking a couple of big chunks of ones posterior :)

Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance :)


message 472: by Mike, Assisting Moderator US Forces (new)

Mike | 3645 comments Those 6 P's are a good guide to life.


message 473: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments I think that was the point he was trying to make to us very young 2nd LTs :)


message 474: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments Very true, but when I was in the Army we had a modified version of it.
Piss Poor Prior Planning on Your Part, does not Constitute an Emergency on My Part.

happy wrote: "When ever anything went wrong my first Bn Cdr always brought up the 6 P's, while he was taking a couple of big chunks of ones posterior :)

Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance :)"



message 475: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (last edited Feb 22, 2014 07:46AM) (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments My original post was the modified and polite version of one
that we used in the army too...you fellas just have to bring the tone down eh!


message 476: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments happy wrote: "When ever anything went wrong my first Bn Cdr always brought up the 6 P's, while he was taking a couple of big chunks of ones posterior :)

Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance :)"


In the USN = Piss Poor Planning Precludes Perfect Performance (P6)


message 477: by Colin (new)

Colin Heaton (colin1962) | 2011 comments Manray9 wrote: "happy wrote: "When ever anything went wrong my first Bn Cdr always brought up the 6 P's, while he was taking a couple of big chunks of ones posterior :)

Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performan..."


agreed


message 478: by Lilo (new)

Lilo (liloh-p) | 586 comments happy wrote: "When ever anything went wrong my first Bn Cdr always brought up the 6 P's, while he was taking a couple of big chunks of ones posterior :)

Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance :)"


LOVE IT!


message 479: by Chin Joo (last edited Feb 22, 2014 07:15PM) (new)

Chin Joo (quekcj) | 284 comments This article was reproduced in the local newspapers yesterday.

Just wondering how many of you put notes in the books you read and can you stand having scribbles in used books?

I used to hate it until I bought a used book in which there was a name and at the bottom of the page it was written "Christmas 1928".


message 480: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20091 comments That's a great article and I don't mind when people write their name and the date in the front of the book but I HATE it when people underline, highlight or write in the narrative/text of the book.


message 481: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments Great article Chin Joo

I agree with AR - I don't write in my own books let alone a library one :(


message 482: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "That's a great article and I don't mind when people write their name and the date in the front of the book but I HATE it when people underline, highlight or write in the narrative/text of the book."

Inscriptions are fine for me Chin Joo and like your Christmas 1928 a pleasure and mystery about a book's prior life; but any other writing, especially in ink makes my blood boil.


message 483: by Manray9 (new)

Manray9 | 4800 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "That's a great article and I don't mind when people write their name and the date in the front of the book but I HATE it when people underline, highlight or write in the narrative/text of the book."

I agree. An old inscription is interesting. Underlining is vandalism.


message 484: by Charles (new)

Charles | 110 comments Argh, the arrogance of that academic!! Never in a library book, perhaps in your own copies (but even then?!?!?).

I never engaged in "marginalia" and prefer to walk away from a book with my own feelings confined to my head - perhaps I could have been a better student had I externalised them on a piece of paper?

Inscriptions can be good to pick up - I had a good one of a Skybax rider in a copy of Dintopia and The Dog in a Footrot Flats compilation that I had done when I was a kid.


Best one I found was in an air navigation manual from 1942 from the staff at Woolworths wishing the recipient all the best of luck. Was sad to have let that one go over time.


message 485: by Chin Joo (new)

Chin Joo (quekcj) | 284 comments Besides the underlining, highlighting, etc., the other thing I dislike is for people to fold corners of pages as a way to help them remember important places in a book. Whenever I pick up a book like that in the library I will unfold them. It spoils the book.


message 486: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 20091 comments Totally agree with you again Chin Joo. When I'm reading a book I place a piece of scrap paper in the front of the book and then go back and tear off a strip from that scrap to mark pages out in the book I wish to refer to later.


message 487: by Dj (new)

Dj | 2295 comments I had a book that I was reading, that the person prior to me had kept writing notes in the margin. At first I found it very annoying. Then I realized that it was someone that was mentioned in the book who kept writing what a crock the author was. It was rather amusing after that. I might have to dig through my library and see if I still have it, or if the ex got rid of it.



Manray9 wrote: "'Aussie Rick' wrote: "That's a great article and I don't mind when people write their name and the date in the front of the book but I HATE it when people underline, highlight or write in the narra..."


message 488: by carl (new)

carl  theaker | 1560 comments Chin Joo wrote: "Besides the underlining, highlighting, etc., the other thing I dislike is for people to fold corners of pages as a way to help them remember important places in a book. "

aggh yes, still trying to educate my wife on that one.
though i've heard spouses are notably difficult
to train.


message 489: by Lilo (new)

Lilo (liloh-p) | 586 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: "That's a great article and I don't mind when people write their name and the date in the front of the book but I HATE it when people underline, highlight or write in the narrative/text of the book."

I don't like ANY scribbling or highlighting in books. Only exemption: The author's signature. Yet even this bothers me when is accompanied with a dedication to a person other than myself (or any of my ancestors).


message 490: by Lilo (new)

Lilo (liloh-p) | 586 comments @ Chin Joo:

"I used to hate it until I bought a used book in which there was a name and at the bottom of the page it was written "Christmas 1928"."

I'd make another exception in a case like this. :-)


message 491: by Gerald (new)

Gerald Churchill | 435 comments Lilo wrote: "'Aussie Rick' wrote: "That's a great article and I don't mind when people write their name and the date in the front of the book but I HATE it when people underline, highlight or write in the narra..."

Once, I found a book that I had sought for ages in a secondhand bookstore. Alas, it was heavily highlighted. I went to the store owner and asked if I could negotiate a lower price. He said, "It's gratis." "Are you sure?" I asked. "I would hate for you to take a loss on this." "We don't take books that are heavily highlighted," he replied. If whoever purchased the book for the store had noticed that much highlighting, he or she would not have bought it."


message 492: by Lilo (last edited Feb 24, 2014 12:05PM) (new)

Lilo (liloh-p) | 586 comments happy wrote: "Great article Chin Joo

I agree with AR - I don't write in my own books let alone a library one :("


I once checked out a library book (a very thick volume) in which a former reader had erased each and every word relating to God; that is, "God", "He", "the Lord", etc. I wonder what this person had done to books that contained some foul language.


message 493: by Lilo (last edited Feb 24, 2014 12:23PM) (new)

Lilo (liloh-p) | 586 comments happy wrote: "Great article Chin Joo

I agree with AR - I don't write in my own books let alone a library one :("


The last time I have scribbled in books was when I was a preschooler (until I assume age 3 or 4) when there wasn't a scrap of blank paper available (not even toilet paper). But then, we also ran out of pens. So my only outlet for my artistic creativity was to place genuine (!) charcoal drawings on walls. This, unfortunately, became also forbidden because our landlady would not appreciate it and there was no wall paint to be had (to paint over it) either. :-(


message 494: by Lilo (new)

Lilo (liloh-p) | 586 comments @ Carl:

Spouses are, indeed, difficult to train. I heard some people have been successful taking tips from dog-training books. :-)


message 495: by happy (new)

happy (happyone) | 2281 comments LOL


message 496: by Geevee, Assisting Moderator British & Commonwealth Forces (new)

Geevee | 3812 comments Very good Lilo and not something I shall tell my wife.


message 497: by Lilo (new)

Lilo (liloh-p) | 586 comments Geevee wrote: "Very good Lilo and not something I shall tell my wife."

I don't have to be afraid anybody telling my husband. He is already a total failure training dogs. :-)


message 498: by carl (new)

carl  theaker | 1560 comments Lilo, ahhh, well, ok no comment ...


message 499: by Tionne (new)

Tionne | 255 comments I like it when someone lends me a fav book and a page is turned down. I try and really see what struck them so much about the page and it helps me understand that person a little better. But if anyone did that to my book I'd be out for blood.


message 500: by Boudewijn (new)

Boudewijn (boudalok) | 403 comments I just found this site, very interesting. Complete WW2 history of the US Army.

http://www.history.army.mil/html/book...


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