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why do you think hermione fell for ron and not harry?
Because Ron's the friggin amazing Ginger Ninja, that's why
Because J.K. Rowling decided that they should be together LOL just kidding :)Maybe because RON WEASLEY IS AWESOME! I'm not saying Harry is not but maybe Hermione's type is a funny ginger LOL like Ron.
Well, I think the resolution to this debate boils down to two points:Firstly, that she can only fall for a guy that have a good heart, care for her and respect her. Which of course also Harry do, so - rationally - it could have been either one. (Or a third guy entirely, although less likely, because she care for these two a hell of a lot...)
And then, most importantly, that love is not reasonable. One thing she can't rationalize. It's not like she has been weighing the pro's and cons against each other and decided to go for Ron, is it? She just felt something dfferent for that cute idiot ginger, y'know?
And therefore, ladies and gentlemen, this discussion is really quite pointless. Because the answer to why Jo chose for them to fall in love is obvious to us all, I think. They make a great match.
And she can get away with this seemingly random matchmaking because love is random. And Hermione has definitely not been coldheartedly picking her most advantageous mate from the facts we state about any boy's good and bad qualities. For this choice she felt her way around.
So my crucial, sorta vague point is; She didn't pick Ron. She just... loved Ron.
Wow, that was longer than I expected. And I can still add; Scientifically this might be completely explainable, something with dopamine signals in the brain, I think... But otherwise love and 'falling for specific people' is still a kinda unclear topic, so...Discussing Jo's reasons is much easier, but the answers also seem more obvious.
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I think this is a great point!!! I think something broke in Harry when it all went down. Harry and Hermione could never be together they are too close as friends - romance would complicate things.
I think that Hermione and Ron are perfect! They are both passionate people and sure this will cause arguments but they will always make up.
why hermione fell for ron?well,
WHY NOT?
Most probably because Ron needs Hermione more than Harry. Harry pretty much can handle himself, and although he may need a helping had at times, Harry has the strong tendency of pushing people away because he doesn't want them to get hurt, which leaves Ron and Hermione together because they need one another and they both know that Harry can handle himself best when he is alone more than Hermione or Ron could. Did I make sense or did I just add up to the confusion?
I think Hermione fell for Ron because Ron was a challenge to her. She always seemed to had to put in words of improvement to Ron. I think Hermione felt that Ron needed her as much as she needed him.
I think J.K. Rowling wanted all the "hero's" to end up with "hero" partners (rolls eyes)and harry was no longer avalible due to his always having a different love intrest. In real life hermione wouldnt last two years before getting sick of putting up with rons idiocy and would divorce him.
In fact if you think about it, when Ron and Hermione were younger they had no interest in each other whatsoever and they weren't exactly the best of friends. J.K Rowling probably wanted it to have an UNpredictable ending.
I agree with most. I think it was a "Oh, all the girls are falling over harry, he's cute but... Hey Ron's hot! I'll be able to date him without all the drama!" Plus, you know, the've always hated each other so it was cute when they started to date, it was predictable :)
I think Hermionie fell for Ron and not Harry because its shows to all readers that your true love isn't that hard to find he could of been there the whole time especially with those who you least expect, you just have to start noticing... I also feel that Harry and hermionie were to similar and we wouldn't of had the 'will they' 'won't they' affect we have with Ron an hermionie.
Hermione loves running her mouth. She enjoys conversation equally if not more than learning. With Ron she would argue for hours, but Ron was almost always approachable. Harry shuts himself off from the world constantly. He's never completely honest with how he feels, and he's prone to danger. Ron shows a deeper interest in Hermione and although he is the cause of many mishaps involving Hermione, his friendship with Hermione allows him to grow vicariously through her guidance. They improved each other. A relationship with Harry wouldn't have worked in the end, because Harry's reckless destiny would never satisfy Hermione's need for control.
Because Hermione and Harry ending up together would have been totally easy and cliché, and the Harry Potter books don't do easy and cliché. Plus, they would have been a totally boring couple. Ron and Hermione have great chemistry, because they are so different. Also, I think Harry and Hermione instantly became very close, like siblings, whereas Hermione and Ron were always a bit reserved and hostile towards each other in the beginning - until they fell in love..! (Sorry, can't help myself, cutest couple ever! <3)
Maybe simply because there is chemistry, an energy between Ron and Hermione. I'd never thought Hermione and Harry would be a couple. But the bickering between Hermione and Ron made it obvious. Besides, Harry is at times a much more passive person, whereas Ron is more aggressive and not scared to challenge Hermione, and Hermione have probably admired Ron for his outgoing and outspoken personality, his lack of fear of coming across as stupid since Hermione herself has an insecurity she covers up with knowledge. . .
Nikki wrote: "I kind of always wanted Harry/Hermione, Ron/Luna, and Neville/Ginny."I kind of thought Luna and Harry XD
Wow Manik, that was a great breakdown of their relationship! I often hear people say they are surprised that Hermione would go for Ron. many seem to think she's out of his league, being so smart and pretty. but keep in mind that the literary version of Hermione isn't as stunningly beautiful as her on-screen counterpart. so from a physical standpoint their coupling makes more sense.and as to her brilliance...well he doesn't have to be on her level bookwise to be loving and supportive.
Manik wrote: "Well think about the three from a 'Normal World' point-of-view. In all the 7 books the Wizarding World is in turmoil, war and uncertainty. Harry Potter is either saving someone's life or up to some..."You raise some good points, and I know this comment was posted ages ago so you likely don't really care about it anymore, but I really have to disagree. Ron only ever makes Hermione either feel hurt and insulted or angry, he doesn't listen to her, or her problems, and calls her mental, which us readers may see as cute but from the perspective of a girl who was bullied for her entire life for not being normal it would definitely hurt, this is why she was almost killed by a troll in first year, not because of Harry, or some Slytherins, it was Ron who caused her to be in that bathroom on Halloween.
Ron has nothing in common with Hermione, although its true that opposites attract (seemingly everyone's major argument for Ron/Hermione) there has to be some common ground between them, you can't build a relationship on arguments and insults.
While true that Hermione lets Harry vent and have his anger tantrums, that's probably more of a positive than Ginny's stance of stopping him from venting, Harry went through some really, really dark times in the last few books and could've easily gone down a bad path if he had to bottle up his emotions or had no support from Hermione (and even Ron to an extent). Also Harry's life being in constant danger never stopped Hermione from starting up a brother-sister relationship with him, you think if he died she would've been any more hurt if they were going out? She loved him, just not as a potential partner, she would've been worried and devastated anyway.
As for the dirt-nose scene, I always thought that was more common courtesy or flat out disgust at his lack of hygiene. And Ginny loving Harry at 9? She didn't know Harry at 9, you can't love somebody you don't know, that's a silly childhood crush that she should've gotten over.
Hermione fell for Ron because its what J.K. wanted. Thats why.
Hermione fell for ron because j.k. Wanted that history that they have to slowly become into a relationship where tey love eachother. Its romantic how they started out hating eachother and being meanto eachother and then at the end of the day they realized that they care so much for eachother. Theyre history is priceless
I have to agree with some of the comments here. I think a lot of it was because that's what Jo wanted (and also the fans) but I think you can tell they were destined to be with each other if you pay attention to the moment they first meet. It's playful and innocent and I think Hermione does love Harry, but more as a brother whereas with Ron they've always had little disagreements and there's always been something there behind the the playfulness...Small flirtations. I think it was a wise choice for Ron and Hermione to be together...They're completely opposite in a lot of ways but for those reasons they work so well together.
Justine wrote: "Girls almost never go for the "obious" guy and if they do usually it doesn't last.Besides I think Hermione and Harry only felt like friends and with Ron it was probably never "just friends".
But I..."
I agree with Justine. Harry would be perfect for Luna. :)
I think she wanted four of the main characters to all find a match.So if she made Hermione marry Harry, Ron couldn't marry Ginny XD Although, the 6th movie really made me think Harry and Hermione would end up together.
I think it was because she was sometimes almost afraid of Harry when he he lost it and when he did Ron was almost always on her side also in book five hermione says that Harry has always been interested in cho and in book six Harry starts showing his interest in Ginny. I also agree with Emma and I think that Ginny has always been able to stand up to Harry so they made a good couple. Plus hermione is smart and Ron did know other things about wizards some things that hermione didn't so in other words Ron and hermione kind of fit like two pieces of a puzzle
I kinda agree with Nikki I like Ginny Neville and Harry hermione but not Ron Luna after all Ron dislikes luna I think Ron should be with possibly lavender or maybe Padma but I thin Ron hermione makes the most sense
Rona wrote: "Because he's a ginger, and Harry's not. :D"What's that got to do with anything?
Joel wrote: "Manik wrote: "Well think about the three from a 'Normal World' point-of-view. In all the 7 books the Wizarding World is in turmoil, war and uncertainty. Harry Potter is either saving someone's life..."Finally. A person with sense.
Rachel wrote: "because every girl likes a challenge."Not true. I'm a girl and I don't like a challenge (when it comes to relationships)
Lauren ~School's back so I might be less active~ wrote: "Because Ron Weasley is amazing. Who wouldn't want Ron Weasley?!"Me
This thread is interesting. Of course the obvious answer is "JKR wanted it", but here's why I think so. Oh, and I hate it when people say Ron was a bumbling fool. The boy wasn't dumb. He was witty and sarcastic and SOMEtimes perceptive (like in CoS when Ron figured that who ever ransacked Harry's things definitely was looking for something specific, because he noticed that Harry's robes' pockets were all pulled out). Ron did well with his OWLs too, minus Divination I think. He's a lazy student, not a stupid one. Just like Harry, actually. Harry even picked some of his classes based on what Ron picked so that he'd have some "help". Both boys are just lazy, and getting down to it, who isn't compared to Hermione? Anywho, back to the reason why I felt JKR wrote it this way...Harry, Ron, and Hermione are the trio. Think of them as a triangle. Harry is at the top, while Ron and Hermione make up the bottom. They're his support as they're the sidekicks. Harry with Hermione would've thrown it offbalance and would've made it awkward for Ron and since Hermione and Harry are around one another a lot anyway, it would've been as bothersome, probably, as Ron x Lavendar since Harry is THE main character and the books are through his eyes. Ron and Hermione are on one level, while Harry is above them. To me it keeps everything balanced.
Personally, after book 2, the concept of Ron x Hermione was cute to me, mind you, I'd read all four books (as those were the only ones around at the time) prior to movie 1, so I went into the films expecting it.
IMO, Ron x Hermione works better than Harry x Hermione. Ron could definitely get Hermione to relax, and the two seemed to spend more casual time together. There were many parts of the book where Harry would come back and see Ron and Hermione together doing whatever. They definitely enjoy one another's company. Not always, but a lot of the time, Hermione is helping Harry out with something plot-related and I can't recall from memory a time where the two casually did something fun together. Hermione is very logical, where as Ron is very emotional. Seems that helps balance the two out.
Another reason...well, Harry himself. I felt that the tabloid aspect of GoF really proved that there was nothing going on between them and probably never would. Harry didn't care who Hermione's partner was or anything, not like Ron.
Also, it seems that Ron noticed certain things about Hermione or was usually curious about some of her day-to-day activities, like in PoA, where Harry didn't think about it until Ron brought it up. He was even concerned about her eating habits. Another instance that comes to mind is how in GoF, he was the one to notice that her teeth were smaller.
Even though we all know Harry loves and cares for Hermione, Ron seems to be more defensive of Hermione. CoS showed that really well. The slug spewing spell (which is difficult to pull off apparently, but he did it perfectly...only it backfired) and then there was that other time where he had to be held back by Dean and Harry all the way to class because he was trying to go after Draco for what he'd said about Hermione after she was petrified. He said something like, "I don't need my wand, I'll kill him with my bare hands". In PoA, he defended Hermione after Snape upset her for the know-it-all comment, even though he himself called her that at least "twice a week". This comes across as, "Hey, I can say that, I like her, she's my friend and mean no ill-harm, you can't." I know Ron's character is defensive of those he care about, but this is a very strong reaction (CoS example). Also, in CoS, it's very admirable that Ron faced his biggest fear for the sake of his friend. Looking at Hermione's empty chair gave him the resolve and courage needed to "follow the spiders".
Now, the bickering aspect. To me, Ron and Hermione's bickering is actually healthy. At least they get everything out and even when they do bicker, it doesn't seem to do any harm. To me, they seemed to enjoy their debates. Book 5 had them bickering at one point, and Harry got annoyed at the pair, and to paraphrase, both looked upset that they were interrupted.
Personally I always felt JK did this to provide two sides of an argument for the readers to think about, like the Snape argument. Even the house elf argument was interesting as both seemed to be right. Hermione was right, they should be treated better, but Ron was right in that if they seem happy, then they shouldn't bother them. To me, Ron came across like... "If they want all that stuff, then let them have it, but don't force it on them if they don't want it. Take their feelings into consideration." To me, Hermione's heart was in the right place, but her approach was wrong. They seem to enjoy their debates and to me, this comes across as a challenge for Hermione. Harry is much too passive and hates nagging and arguing and debating and usually tunes out Hermione or say what she wants to hear so that she'll stop mothering him. She doesn't seem to really do this with Ron. Ron faces her head on. I think the reason for this is due the way the Dursley's treated him, so Harry seems to always avoid negative conflict.
Anyway, I felt their bickering and debates were normal. I can't recall, but I know they've bickered on something they actually agreed on. Seems that aside from the cat/rat fight and the Yule Brawl, they've never had a REAL fight and have never really purposely hurt one another's feelings (even in PS/SS, when Ron made that comment about Hermione not having any friends, in the book, he seemed awkward after he said it because he saw it upset her), 'cept for in HBP...sorta, imo. Hermione did obviously choose McLaggen as a date to annoy Ron, but with Ron with Lavendar, I'm not so sure. Lavender had been giving Ron positive attention that Hermione hadn't. Ron is allowed to date if he's not taken, right? Only part of HBP where it did feel like Ron was purposely trying to upset Hermione was in one of the lessons where Ron made fun of Hermione and she rushed off crying...even though, ironically, she'd made fun of him first.
Another thing, I always felt Hermione liked Ron because she seemed to take more offense easily to some of the unintentional insensitive things Ron has said. Like, in book 5, Hermione was patient with Harry's ignorance of girls' feelings, but Ron makes an innocent comment about how one person couldn't possibly feel so many emotions at once, she snaps at him. In PoA, she didn't seem as fazed by Harry not talking to her because of the Firebolt incident, but seems she really broke down when Ron stopped talking to her after the Scabbers incident (and to be honest, I felt Ron was in the right, as he just wanted her to acknowledge his feelings and seem that she was sorry over what happened, which was all he truly wanted as the evidence did point to her cat).
So, I guess for me, the fact that the two, generally get along, speak openly with one another (outside of the romance thing up to a point), do non-plot-related stuff together, such as hanging together casually, enjoy their bickering (seemingly), get jealous whenever one or the other is showing possible attraction towards someone else, shows a lot.
Wow, I didn't mean to write that much. ^^
Edit: I didn't realize this was such an old thread. Sorry for kinda bumping it. ^^
I know this is an old thread but I want to say something.Hermione and Ron are together because the Author said so. The same Author who recently said she'd only kept them together because she was holding tightly to a wish she had, and that literary-wise Hermione and Harry were supposed to be together. She made a concious choice in book three to steer Hermione to Ron.
As for real life, Hermione wouldn't be with Ron. She came to Hogwarts a bullied child, she stated her first year at Hogwarts being bullied and the first thing Ron does is tease her some more. She runs to the bathromm and is nearly killed. After locking the door it was Harry, not Ron, who remembered that Hermione was in there. Ron couldn't be bothered to remember her and as the years went by, the callus and verbally creul treatment contiunes. But it's "Okay" because it falls under the 'well they're close so it's only friendly teasing' umbrella. No, I take that back. It's isn't strange for a person to fall for or marry someone that isn't ideal. You learn as you grow.
I personally feel that Ron isn't the "Best" friend a guy (or girl) could ask for. He seems to walk around with an inferiority complex, not that he didn't come by it honest, that tints his view of events and leads to a number of very un-friend like choices.
But that's just my opinion on things and I hope you didn't mind my babbling. There are interesting views on this topic here
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/essays/essa...
and here
http://www.heroesandheartbreakers.com...
And Rowlings opinion on the matter can be google searched but I read this article
http://news.yahoo.com/hermione-marrie...
Again thanks for indulging me.
J.K. Rowling questions why she did it in an interview given to Emma Watson.http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/...
Rebeka wrote: "I know this is an old thread but I want to say something.Hermione and Ron are together because the Author said so. The same Author who recently said she'd only kept them together because she was ..."
Harry AND Ron realized the Troll was in the bathroom with her, after locking it in, when they heard her scream. Both had forgotten it, but afterwards, both decided to go back to help her without thinking twice about it. That's in the book. I forgot how the movie did it.
I still find it unusual how she changed her mind 7 years after the fact, when she was so defensive over the pairing years ago. Kind of makes me wonder about the pairings of James x Lily and Arthur x Molly. James annoyed Lily a lot, but they ended up together, and in the books, JKR wrote Harry associating Ron and Hermione's mannerisms to Mr. and Mrs. Weasley who is a happily married couple and have all those kids to prove it.
If she's always felt this way, though, she shouldn't have written the epilogue with them as a happily married couple.
But isn't that how a children's book is supposed to end? Happily ever after, the end. I think her change of heart came from hindsight, looking back at what she wrote it didn't sit well with her. Like when you look back at old school work and shake your head at the mistakes you made.
Ron is always the sidekick, it's nice that he's the one who gets the girl.
Manik wrote: "Well think about the three from a 'Normal World' point-of-view. In all the 7 books the Wizarding World is in turmoil, war and uncertainty. Harry Potter is either saving someone's life or up to some..."
Good point! Love it!
Good point! Love it!
No one reads the books anymore.... But i think Harry and hermione, ron and cho (i think tats her name), ginny and draco, and luna and neville together. Unless draco is gay. Then ginny should be with some random guy becase i don' t think she really matters in the books or the movies.
Sarah wrote: "No one reads the books anymore.... But i think Harry and hermione, ron and cho (i think tats her name), ginny and draco, and luna and neville together. Unless draco is gay. Then ginny should be wit..."
I'm fine with Neville and Luna, but there not my favourites.
Harry and Hermione? Ron and Cho? Ginny and Draco? Ginny and random person?
First of all, Hermione and Harry didn't grow any feelings for each other and they look and act like siblings in the entire series. I didn't see any romantic chemistry.
Ron and Cho didn't have a lot of contact and putting insensitive Ron with extremely-super-oh-so-sensitive Cho may not be such a good idea and the pairing would not work.
Ginny and Draco hardly interacted in the series, and wouldn't that mean a major disowning from both sides. Didn't she hex him at some point? The whole relationship would consist of hexing.
Ginny and random person would need some kind of background at the end, otherwise people would get annoyed, such as with Luna/Rolf, Percy/Audrey, Draco/Astoria or Neville/Hannah.
Sorry, but no.
I'm fine with Neville and Luna, but there not my favourites.
Harry and Hermione? Ron and Cho? Ginny and Draco? Ginny and random person?
First of all, Hermione and Harry didn't grow any feelings for each other and they look and act like siblings in the entire series. I didn't see any romantic chemistry.
Ron and Cho didn't have a lot of contact and putting insensitive Ron with extremely-super-oh-so-sensitive Cho may not be such a good idea and the pairing would not work.
Ginny and Draco hardly interacted in the series, and wouldn't that mean a major disowning from both sides. Didn't she hex him at some point? The whole relationship would consist of hexing.
Ginny and random person would need some kind of background at the end, otherwise people would get annoyed, such as with Luna/Rolf, Percy/Audrey, Draco/Astoria or Neville/Hannah.
Sorry, but no.
Ron has his stupidity and Hermione has brains, as they say, 'opposites attract'...
I think it's because Ron makes her laugh and takes the stress off things and Harry is just as intense as her. Hermione doesn't need someone just like her, she needs someone that relax her a bit. And Ron? Well, she makes him a better person, makes him want to try harder just as she is better with him. Together they are better.
I think Hermione did this because she thought of Harry more as a brother than anything else and I think there friendship is too good for that
His light-heartedness and vulnerability
Ruby Rae Reads wrote: "His light-heartedness and vulnerability"I definitely agree! Hermione's a bit too serious sometimes, and Ron's humor definitely gets her to relax. Also, Harry doesn't need Hermione as much as Ron does, and she definitely likes to feel needed and appreciated.
Zoab wrote: "I think J.K. Rowling did it because she didn't want 2 of the main characters falling in love with each other. Also, if you pay close attention, in the first 2 books it seems like Harry and Hermioni..."Interesting idea, and it does seem like that
In my opinion she fell for Ron because, they are the exact opposite of each other, and she as always being the know-it-all needed someone who challenge her; no in knowledge obviously but in patience, in blind trust) and she found in Ron those things.
Harry, while not academic, always came out on top of the situation. He was the embodiment of "rather be lucky than good." He had an inner strength that, whether intentionally or not, would always have been in competition with Hermione.
Ron, on the other hand, was a well intended bumbling clutz. He was neither academic nor perpetually successful, so he never threatened her status as top anything. He was someone she could care for and he was someone who could need her in a clutch. His strength came more from his heart, and that was a strength she could rely upon without being threatened by it.
Intelligence will always be more attracted to heart than to luck, so Hermione and Ron make a better couple than Hermione and Harry.
Besides, the name "Hermione and Harry" sounds like a vaudeville act.