Bittersweet ending. :( Thoughts?

[Tiffany]

Insights about the ending?
Personally, I wanted it to have a happier sort of ending. Firstly, Luce being an angel came as a huge shock to me, and when the whole "becoming mortal, but you have no memories" thing was introduced, I wanted to tear the book in half. Basically, Luce and Daniel aren't the same in a sense.

I can accept the ending. Hey, I have to be realistic. But I wish it could be different.

[Becky]

It was beyond bittersweet. I wascrying my eyes out during the last few chapters of the book. I loved the book beyond words, but the ending made me really sad. Luce had just got her wings back, realized her "Destiny" I guess and everything made sense. Then her AND Daniel became mortal and I just didnt want to believe that they had given up not only a future in Heaven, but also everyone of theyre past lives memories. I get very attached to books, so I got really emotional at that part.

[Criselle]

Sure there was a few unsatisfying loopholes in the story, such as Cam's lover never introduced/explained!

I love how Luce is actually an angel, and how at least a FEW of the mysteries started to unravel.


Anyway, I loved the book dearly until the LAST FEW PAGES- when Luce and Daniel had to become human.
After that, I felt so so so very disappointing and sad that I felt like chucking the book on the floor and stomping on it.

It is as if Lauren Kate suddenly put in "AND IT WAS ALL A DREAM."

I would be OVERJOYED if Kate can delete the last few pages and rewrite a better ending.

[Laurie]

I was sad that Luce and Daniel became human, I wanted them to spend eternity together as angels... I loved the series though, I was sad when it was over.

[Becky]

Laurie wrote: "I was sad that Luce and Daniel became human, I wanted them to spend eternity together as angels... I loved the series though, I was sad when it was over."

I heard that

[Tiffany]

Crystal wrote: "Sure there was a few unsatisfying loopholes in the story, such as Cam's lover never introduced/explained!

I love how Luce is actually an angel, and how at least a FEW of the mysteries started to u..."
My thoughts exactly! I actually wanted them to find a way to stay angels.

[fabby]

their love was historic it was sad that they would end up being the only ones not remembering it

[Kristin]

I just finished the book. I don't understand how God/the Throne could punish them for choosing love. Isn't that what God/the Throne is supposed to be all about? It seems kind of selfish of it/s/he to require pure adoration from the angels. I'm a little upset at the ending.

[Lara]

I actually got so emotional with the ending, I wish there was a bit more of it. I also really would've liked to know more about Cam's lover :O

[Linda]

Tiffany wrote: "Insights about the ending?
Personally, I wanted it to have a happier sort of ending. Firstly, Luce being an angel came as a huge shock to me, and when the whole "becoming mortal, but you have no me..." Really Luce being an angel come a shock I figure it out awhile ago little clues in the book that Daniel was not the angel they were all waiting on and little clues like how they could not tell her who it was just little stuff. And not being the same Luce was never the same so i think it is cool they both start with no members of who they was they still together.

[Lisa]

I like all of you LOVED this book. The Luce being an angel thing was a shock and yet it seemed to make sense. I do agree that the loophole sucked. I hated that they had to make a choice, that god allowed all those people to die invaine of a "love story". I'm glad that even though they were made mortal they still showed Miles, Shelby, Roland, And the other two girl angels but what I am mad about was there was no explanation about Luces old life. Did she die, go missing, was she erased from her BFF and parents. She was just "reborn" to new parents. That I didn't like at all. I can except the ending but I wish she wrapped up the rest of the characters like where Cam went.

pS. I believe his love story is in the fallen in love book which explain the sub characters love lives.

[Willow27]

I thought Rapture was brilliant and I LOVED the last chapter!!! It finally gave depth to all the rest of the books in the series. I just didn't like that it didn't explain where she went. Last her parent's knew she was still at Sword and Cross!

[Nuran]

I dislike this book. The ending felt rushed. Luce seem way too happy about it. Not even concerned she was going to hurt her family, again. Selfish beyond measure. And the most interesting character, Cam, was hardly in it, he didn’t even get proper closure. And Lucifer, suffering from a broken heart, what the hell crap is this?? Maybe if that was revealed sooner and explored more, I might have believed it, but I didn’t.

Luce being an angel wasn’t a surprise, there was no reason not to reveal that sooner, I guessed it from the moment the star arrow would hurt her. As for the blood ritual, we really didn’t need blood at all, all you needed was some dark liquid. And that older woman didn’t need to die at all and we didn’t need the special cup, any old cup would have done. The only thing that was of any use was the Halo. It was trying to be dark for the sake of being dark, and it just came across as pointless.

And God intervention, was a deux ex machina. Made the end feel lightweight. All that attempt to figure out where the fall was going to take place, all that struggle, was all for nothing, when they could have sat back and let god do all the work. Having god intervening dismissed all the struggle that the characters had to endure to try and stop the end.

I really loved the first book but the series got worse over time.

[Criselle]

Nuran wrote: "I dislike this book. The ending felt rushed. Luce seem way too happy about it. Not even concerned she was going to hurt her family, again. Selfish beyond measure. And the most interesting character..."


I totally understand what you mean. I feel that way too. The ideas of the book are contradicting at times- like so many people (Gabbe, Molly, Dee, the old man, outcasts) were sacrificed just to stop this several millennial war.Just so the scale can finally be tipped.

But instead, it turns out everyone died just so Luce and Daniel could FORGET EVERYTHING THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH???

I love the first book A LOT- but what was the point of showing their extraordinary love over the thousand of years, if it all boils down to becoming an ORDINARY LOVE BETWEEN HUMANS?

The last book just convinced me that maybe the Elders were right. It was just selfish love between two teenagers- destructing order, obstructing peace, and sacrificing the innocents.

[Nuran]

Crystal wrote: "I totally understand what you mean. I feel that way too. The ideas of the book are contradicting at times- like so many people (Gabbe, Molly, Dee, the old man, outcasts) were sacrificed just to stop this several millennial war...."

All that talk about how Luce could make a difference, and then she makes the same selfish mistake again, even though so many people have died for her and many people (her family) have cried over her. At least make it looked like it was a hard decision for her, it just felt so easy for her to make it. She should have at least showed a lot more remorse and agony over it. “I’m gonna totally hurt so many people and more people will probably die for me or get hurt, but it’s true love ya kno’ an’ that’s always so like awesome so it’s like totally okay”.

Feel some remorse for your actions Luce, you act like love between you and Daniel is so important, but it’s as if you don’t have a heart for anything else.

She wasn’t even scared about herself disappearing. She wouldn’t be herself anymore. She would forget all her friends and family and all the sacrifices they made, she would forget all about Penny and her best friend and she wasn’t even upset about that, losing those memories and herself. Not a good friend or daughter.

I wouldn’t have mind the ordinary love relationship, if Luce and Daniel died saving the world, and it was their reward. Or if Daniel died, and Luce died of old age and they were reunited in the next life. Or if it was something that wasn’t selfish that had lead them there.

Luce and Daniel disappearing at the end of the book wasn’t really about saving the world, but just stopping Luce from dying over and over again and Daniel and her could be in a proper relationship at great cost. So it felt selfish and that they didn’t deserve that reward.

[Nuran]

Kris wrote: "I just finished the book. I don't understand how God/the Throne could punish them for choosing love. Isn't that what God/the Throne is supposed to be all about? It seems kind of selfish of it/s/he ..."


I agree with this. God was worse than the devil in some ways. And I would have preferred it, if God remained genderless, I don't know why, but it felt like a forced girl power moment.

[Kristin]

I agree, I would have like it is God would have remained genderless. However if the author would have made God a He, then it could be construed that she was trying to force organized Islamic-Judeo-Christian beliefs (pardon to any other religions that may see a male only deity for excluding) on a younger, perhaps more malleable audience.

[Nuran]

Kris wrote: “I agree, I would have like it is God would have remained genderless. However if the author would have made God a He, then it could be construed that she was trying to force organized Islamic-Judeo-Christian beliefs”

But the whole thing was based on Christian beliefs, so I don’t think people are going to have a go at her for forcing religion down people’s throat, otherwise they would have done it already.

Grigori are a group of angels from the bible who were suppose to watch over humans but instead gave into lust and had their merry ways with a lot of female humans, some having many wives each. It definitley wasn’t about love. Their lust gave rise to the Nephilim race, who were faster/smarter/stronger, which God wiped away with the great flood because they were were very sinful.

I can understand Lauren kate wanting to write a much more fairytale version of that since it’s aimed at young teens but if you’re basing a story on something else, I think you have to be careful with how you change it to suit your needs. Otherwise some readers, or maybe one reader, might question just exactly why was that changed?

[Kristin]

But its not a religious book, its a YA fantasy book that appeals to many without needing a religious slant.

[Cassie 'The Thinker Go Go Go Go' Mis. Roben Goodfellow'\Isabelle Lightwood]

i wish that they explained Cam's ex- lover\ almost wife. and i wished they could stay angles while still being together. seeing as at the end all of them almost were watching them out in the court yard. now Cam needs a book to himslef

[La Niña]

Luce and Daniel (almost) deserve that kind of ending. They need a finality to whatever they have (call it love, stupidity, denseness, whatever). And it was really a nice ending, I even finished the book with a sigh of contentedness. But the question is, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO CAM? I mean, a character like that doesn't deserve to be cut off like that. And do you think Gabbe should be unceremoniously dead before we find ourselves in the middle of the book?

[Natalie]

The ending made me really sad because i thought it would be a different ending. But no it had to be so bittersweet! I loved all the other books and this made me sad because the ending was defined. They will grow old together and then they will die together... so sad! :(

[Rachel]

I asked this question before, but I think Lauren Kate left too many holes in the ending. Cam's lover? Luce's best friends and family from fallen? I just have sooo many questions...

[Jasmine]

I say that Cam should have been more in the book. Like, what happened to him in the end? Did he live his life okay or what? I'm okay with the ending. It seemed obvious in the end right before i read the ending after, she got her wings I knew it was to good to be true. It would have been good if the guy who flipped the coin in the laundry room that it should have been Cam. It would have made it more amusing that he has been watching her as well as everyone else.

[Cassie 'The Thinker Go Go Go Go' Mis. Roben Goodfellow'\Isabelle Lightwood]

La-Niina wrote-WHATEVER HAPPENED TO CAM?


I KNOW!!!! i want to know the same thing! and he should of gotten more in the books to. seeing as he was in a good part of the frist and part of the 2ed one. and then the 3rd and 4th one he got like NOTHING!! someone needs to write a book about just HIM, and his love life and everything else.

[Tiffany]

Cassie wrote: "La-Niina wrote-WHATEVER HAPPENED TO CAM?


I KNOW!!!! i want to know the same thing! and he should of gotten more in the books to. seeing as he was in a good part of the frist and part of the 2e..."
Same here! Cam is such a huge part of the story but HIS ending is full of loose ends. Some suspect that he's the green-eyed guy mentioned at the epilogue, though.

[Cassie 'The Thinker Go Go Go Go' Mis. Roben Goodfellow'\Isabelle Lightwood]

i have no idea, i took that guy as a younger Lucafier. but i guess it could of been Cam, if he'd died his hair.

[La Niña]

Cassie wrote: "i have no idea, i took that guy as a younger Lucafier. but i guess it could of been Cam, if he'd died his hair."

I think the descriptions of the green-eyed guy was almost exactly Lucifer's description.

[Ann]

Just finished reading RAPTURE. And I'm so sad right now that the story is over. It's like saying goodbye to your friends with whom you've journeyed for a while, you know you're going to miss their company. ;( *Sighs* It will take a while to pull myself into the real world again. xD
The series will always be in my ♥.
Ahhh Gosh! I miss 'em already. :(

[Jasmine]

Ah thats how I feel every time I finish a serious. I tell myself how am I going to forget them. Than I read another book and I forget. But I will always remember the series.

[Caitlyn]

I was hoping that she would get to stay an angel and live forever with her friends and Daniel! But, clearly she just had to never be able to see her friends again and only get a lifetime with Daniel!!!!

[Caitlyn]

La Niña wrote: "Cassie wrote: "i have no idea, i took that guy as a younger Lucafier. but i guess it could of been Cam, if he'd died his hair."

I think the descriptions of the green-eyed guy was almost exactly L..."

I read the epilogue and saw no mention of a green eyed guy could you please tell me what page he is mentioned on?

[Cassie 'The Thinker Go Go Go Go' Mis. Roben Goodfellow'\Isabelle Lightwood]

La Niña wrote: "Cassie wrote: "i have no idea, i took that guy as a younger Lucafier. but i guess it could of been Cam, if he'd died his hair."

I think the descriptions of the green-eyed guy was almost exactly L..."

Oh i know! i found that soooo wride to. wait! was the laundry room guys blue and not green?

[Jessica]

I, like so many others, was disappointed with the ending. After all that they and everyone else went through, Luce and Daniel chose to live as mortals, live a short life together, and then die. At least in Heaven they could have been together for all eternity AND in the presence of the Throne..... However, I am glad that they found each other since that was not guaranteed.

[Kylee]

Jessica wrote: "I, like so many others, was disappointed with the ending. After all that they and everyone else went through, Luce and Daniel chose to live as mortals, live a short life together, and then die. At ..."

I thought they weren't allowed to love each other the way the wanted to as angels and in the thrones presence? If they were why would they choose to be mortals? It was the sacrifice they had to pay for going against what the throne said was right and causing the rebel of Lucifer in the first place. At least that's how I understood it.

[Bianca]

I liked the ending! :) I thought it was kind of sweet that they still managed to find each other even though they had no memories of ever knowing. But I think the deaths were kind of for nothing and also passion was all about Luce finding about her past life's just so she could forget about them in rapture :/

[Alana]

Being a complete sucker for romantic mushy stuff, I was totally, totally disappointed by the ending - seriously! Felt like it needed MORE of a lot of things - I hated the "reset" ending especially after all the problems they'd had to endure for CENTURY before they could be together - they should have at least gotten eternity together! Very disappointed

[claire]

I loved the book but hated the ending it really does feel like they died for nothing yes Luce and Daniel eventually found each other but they had to give up their wings as soon as Luce got hers back it felt kind of pointless of all of Luce's deaths and everyone Else she was meant to learn from them but in the end she forgot all of it?? it doesn't make sense!

[Caitlyn]

I hated the ending. Period. There was no answers. Where did Cam go? It totally sucked

[Christy]

I love this book truly but to me it just gave us the run around and then threw "Luce is an angel" in and closed it with bull about being mortal.

1st- What was the point of learning everything about herself in 2 WHOLE books just to forget it all. The super suckie part is Gabbe died for nothing (sorry I loved Gabbe) but still there was no greater purpose worth dying for the balance was never tipped because Luce and Daniel have chose each other from the beginning so they never counted/they never choose.

2nd- There was no battle. We have been waiting 4 books for the final good vs. evil fight but nothing happens. Luce flies up to do nothing but talk then The Throne just shows up, if The Throne could come down in person so easily without be called shouldn't s/he stopped everything a long time ago. Plus if L&D were so important after they choose each other again shouldn't there be war since now there is no loopholes anymore and the teams are set.

And Poor Cam we still know absolutely nothing about he life really. Ok he was in love with Lilith and it don't work. WHY? How did they meet? Come on LK should write a novella just for Cam. I think I will call it "Cam, the angel worth falling for" :) too much fine... i guess that's why I'm not a writer!!

[Cassie 'The Thinker Go Go Go Go' Mis. Roben Goodfellow'\Isabelle Lightwood]

i dont know, bc in a way i liked the ending but at the same time i didnt. but i found it really odd\ironcket that Danlie was wereing the same thing he was or at least close enough to what he was when Luce frist saw him at Swords and Crosse

[Natalie]

Nuran wrote: "Crystal wrote: "I totally understand what you mean. I feel that way too. The ideas of the book are contradicting at times- like so many people (Gabbe, Molly, Dee, the old man, outcasts) were sacrif..."

Totally agree with everything (and I kinda like your options for an ending better :P)! Poor Penn, Gabbe, Molly, etc. they died/sacrificed themselves for basically nothing!? I find that really sad. And I also feel like Luce acted really selfish I mean not once she thinks about her parents or Callie at the end when it's time to choose. :( And there are still a few questions that didn't get answered like a lot of you said: what the heck happened to Cam? Who was the girl who broke his heart? What exactly happened to Trevor at the beginning of the series ( someone does not simply burst into flames for no reason!)? Also I was disappointed by Luce and Daniels first meeting. I mean come on even the first encounter of Luce and Lucifer felt like something bigger plus Luce said/thought she was in love with Lucifer but all it takes is Daniel listening to her problems and she's already kissing him? Sorry but it felt really rushed and kind of slutty of Luce. All in all I have really mixed feelings about the ending and the book in general maybe I can sort my mind a little in the next days. :) (oh and sorry if my English isn't the best)

[Chesa]

Caitlyn wrote: "La Niña wrote: "Cassie wrote: "i have no idea, i took that guy as a younger Lucafier. but i guess it could of been Cam, if he'd died his hair."

I think the descriptions of the green-eyed guy was ..."

he is the guy on the laundry shop that flips coin and he doesn't have green eyes, but blue

[Bonny Bon Bon]

Tiffany wrote: "Insights about the ending?
Personally, I wanted it to have a happier sort of ending. Firstly, Luce being an angel came as a huge shock to me, and when the whole "becoming mortal, but you have no me..."


i completely agree i cant believe after everything they went through over billions upon billions of years that in the end they become mortal and have no memory. i threw the book. im glad they end up meetin at her new school but lauren kate didnt elaborate. they meet and we ASSUME they fall in love, get married and have babies but in saying that how can we assume they live happily ever after? the throne did say there was no guarantee they would find each other in there mortal lives. i loved the twist of lucifer being in love with luce (her first love) and that he was sitting in the laundry flipping a coin at the end (still in love). luce and daniel deserved to at least either keep there memories and be mortal or be immortal and not have there memories but not just sacrifice both :'(

i mean COME ON!!!! after over billions of years of them loving each other, choosing each other and sacrificing everything for there love they just have to FORGET!! it is so tragically unfair, she finally understood everything and remembered who she was and they were just made to forget everything they ever had.

something i just dont get was that there was still so many answered questions so hopefully LK will do another book but if not what happened to cam? does roland and cam change sides? does the war end? does arianne and roland get together? (they had such an awesome bond, that i really hoped they would be together). the throne said that noone was supposed to have anything to do with them and yet lucifer shows up at the laundry does that mean that he broke the rules and they get to remember? (wishful thinking i know but..). what happened to luces life with the price's? did she die because last they knew she was at sword and cross.

i loved how it was revealed that they were all watching luce and daniels last first meeting and that we were told that shelby and miles got married and had babies but what i dont understand is why that didnt happen with luce and daniel. alternatively they could have chosen to go to heaven as long as they could have been together until the end of times as there was never any question as to which side they would have chosen.

perhaps i hate the ending because im a huge romantic and believe all books deserve/should have a happy ending because real life often doesnt. luce and daniels story was so beautiful but ended stupidly. love should always be the ultimate winner.

I truly loved this series but i disagree whole heartedly with the ending. please miss kate write another book in this series whether it is from cams pov or anyone elses, as long as we finally know once and for all what happens and the answers to the unanswered questions :D

[Nuran]

natalie wrote: “...mean come on even the first encounter of Luce and Lucifer felt like something bigger plus Luce said/thought she was in love with Lucifer but all it takes is Daniel listening to her problems and she’s already kissing him? Sorry but it felt really rushed and kind of slutty of Luce...”

Yeah that whole switch my love to someone else routine that Luce did was really bad. I wouldn’t call it slutty but it did seem really pathetic, desperate and made her seem a bit clingy. Rushing from one relationship into another, it made her seem really weak when she was suppose to be the second strongest angel. Luce and Daniel’s great innocent love started with Luce cheating on Lucifer! In reality, Daniel would be rebound guy.

But I think the author was fed-up, probably realised how silly it was and just rushed through the end to get it over and done with.

As for Trevor, yeah, what did happen to him?

[Nancy]

the ending was ok to me, manly because the third book let me down a bit so i didnt have high hopes. i figured out what she was a little before half way but didnt suspect the lucifer relationship though it worked well. the ending should have been different in my opinion, they suffered all that time for only one mortal lifetime together..... it just isnt fair. they should have gone to heaven or at least got to be imortal and keep peace on earth or something.... but ohh well... though there should have been a 'first' kiss for them in their mortal life to end the book well

[Tara]

I was kinda dissappointed in the ending, I think they should have had a first kiss or something. I can honestly say this book was better than Passion it was my least fav of the series. Just seems like alot for them to go through to end so short. Althoguh I'am happy they found each other, it could have ended alot worse.

[Vinisha]

I just flipped out and started crying and i was pissed that there was barely any Cam in the end

[Ria]

Becca wrote: "It was beyond bittersweet. I wascrying my eyes out during the last few chapters of the book. I loved the book beyond words, but the ending made me really sad. Luce had just got her wings back, real..."

K I'm terrible at these things so bare with me... angels were created by the "throne" to adore it above all else... Lucifer wanted power, so he wanted to leave and take Lucinda with him. By then Lucifer had changed and Lucinda realized that she wanted the type of love that Daniel gave her, that their souls belonged together. When they did the roll call (lame title) and everyone was forced to choose a side Daniel chose love, and Lucinda chose love, above all else... Lucifer pissed cursed them, the Throne betrayed cursed them... future Daniel lobbied for them and a loop hole was created to break the curse. In the end they were given another chance to choose... Hell-do whatever you want but one day we want heaven and earth, or Heaven- you love God above all else and will fight the powers of evil for all eternity. I think it was Lucinda's destiny to discover her love for Daniel was the only way to be happy pure and free... We all know that Daniel was already there. Again they chose no side, no war, not good, not evil, but each other. The Throne cannot be second to another angel... They got to love each but unfortunately not as angels. Im banking on once they pass the mortal world and go to heaven they will be reunited with their friends and all of their memories... :) PS I get super attached too ;)

[Ria]

Laurie wrote: "I was sad that Luce and Daniel became human, I wanted them to spend eternity together as angels... I loved the series though, I was sad when it was over."

super super tragic but as all good love stories go a great sacrifice has to be made...