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Please, stop. Just stop with all the comparisons.

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Veronica Stop it with all of the Graceling/Hunger Games comparisons! I can't take it anymore... It's not even a fair comparison. Graceling's awesomeness makes it win everytime, lol.

The character building of the Hunger Games is no where near what Cashore has created. Neither, really, is the world building. I learned more about the world from the movie then the book... Admittedly I have only read the first book of the Hunger Games trilogy but I feel like Cashore did all of what Collins did within her entire first book within the first few chapters of any of her three books (Graceling, Fire, and Bitterblue).

Feel free to disagree but I just had to state how tired I am of the comparisons.


★ Mist ☆ Cassidy ★ So, you ask everyone to stop with comparisons and in doing so, you ultimately compare both of them? :$


Veronica Mist .:.rockclimbingirl.:. wrote: "So, you ask everyone to stop with comparisons and in doing so, you ultimately compare both of them? :$"

Call it my counter comparison, if you will, haha.


Noor Mist .:.rockclimbingirl.:. wrote: "So, you ask everyone to stop with comparisons and in doing so, you ultimately compare both of them? :$"

:) NICE! :D lol


Noor Veronica wrote: "Stop it with all of the Graceling/Hunger Games comparisons! I can't take it anymore... It's not even a fair comparison. Graceling's awesomeness makes it win everytime, lol.

The character building ..."


True! (i also learned more about hunger games in the movie)


message 6: by Sheyenne (last edited Jul 03, 2012 10:23AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sheyenne I think they just like to compare them because the main character's names start with same letters:
Katniss Peeta
Kasta Po
ha-ha :D


Samantha The Escapist Well both books talk about survival and many Graceling fans have read the Hunger Games (even though not not quite the same percentage works the other way given the popularity of HG)

I do think it's fair enough to want to compare given the similarities of the protagonists. It's like people comparing the dumbass girl characters in the other popular YA books like Hush Hush and City of Bones. These girls are dull and unrealized so they too are easy to compare though not obviously similar.

Goodreads is one of the only places we get to be silly fangirls about things, just comparing similarities doesn't mean you're picking favourites or saying they're the same or one is as good as the other.

Plus fans of things have been doing it since comic books sooo it's too far gone I think lol.

I agree, Graceling is an underappreciated gem of the genre and though I loved the Hunger Games I think Graceling is much tidier and better over-all.


Darlene Sheyenne Tallyn-Goodfellow;) wrote: "I think they just like to compare them because the main character's names start with same letters:
Katniss Peeta
Kasta Po
ha-ha :D"


Giddon-Gale, haha


Samantha The Escapist Darlene =) wrote: "Sheyenne Tallyn-Goodfellow;) wrote: "I think they just like to compare them because the main character's names start with same letters:
Katniss Peeta
Kasta Po
ha-ha :D"

Giddon-Gale, haha"


And Bitterblue and Primrose are similar as compound words. Plus both Katsa and Katniss are decidedly protective of little girls. It's a pretty strong theme.


Arlene ..... You CANT compare them. They are both awesome but really really diferent


message 11: by Sheyenne (last edited Jul 03, 2012 12:29PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sheyenne Both books have similarities like the name thing:
Katniss- Kasta
Peeta- Po
Gale- Giddon
Primrose- Bitterblue

7 kingdoms- 12 districts

Kasta protected Bitterblue- Katniss protecting Primrose

However they are completely different genres, THG is dytopian and Graceling is fantasy!! How can you compare books that are in different genres!

P.S Graceling is better XD

EDIT: Ok I guess genre doesn't exactly limit you however they are the same in some ways and different in some ways.


Samantha The Escapist Sheyenne Tallyn-Goodfellow;) wrote: "How can you compare books that are in different genres!
"


...the same way you just did.

Genre doesn't limit you, Eragon is pretty much Starwars while one is Scifi/fantasy and the other is High Fantasy and that hasn't stopped seemingly anyone from drawing that conclusion.

Avatar is essentially Space Pocahontas (Spocahontas if you will) and they're historic and futuristic.

One of the reasons Shakespeare is still popular today is that he wrote about themes and characters that resonate even now years later. It isn't the setting or the genre or even always the story that defines the similarities of one work and another, characters and themes and lessons and just ideas can all be compared in anything.

Hell we're not even limited by medium. I saw a painting the other day that reminded me of a song I like and just yesterday I read a hallmark card that put me in mind of a tv commercial.


message 13: by Sheyenne (last edited Jul 03, 2012 12:22PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sheyenne Samantha wrote: "Sheyenne Tallyn-Goodfellow;) wrote: "How can you compare books that are in different genres!
"

...the same way you just did.

Genre doesn't limit you, Eragon is pretty much Starwars while one is ..."


HA I guess I'm a hyproctite lol :D But your right genre doesn't really matter I mean look at Avril Lavigne! But ya lets just make movies based on paintings and books based on music. In fact I'm going to start writing a sci fy version of Snow White and make it a CD. ha-ha :D


message 14: by Sheyenne (last edited Jul 03, 2012 12:51PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sheyenne I like Kasta and Po's relationship a lot better than Katniss and Peeta's. It was a lot more "adult" and they truely did love each other and were honest and open with each other. They learned how to use their graces to each others advantages and were perfect complements of each other. I just loved how they would would beat each other up and laughed as they were bleeding and brusied ha-ha.

Po understood Kasta and cared for her and tried to make her open with him despite his grace. Po and Kasta knew how to deal with each others faults. When Peeta and Katniss seemed lost.

Half of Katniss and Peeta's relationship was a lie and took 2 books to turn into something real and then you had the whole love triangle thing so Katniss' heart was constantly divided.

It seemed Katniss couldn't make her own decisions and was constantly being told what to do. Kasta wouldn't have it ha-ha which I really liked about her. Like when she was in love with Po but didn't want to get married Po was okay with that and didn't try to pressure her. Katniss didn't want to have kids but Peeta did and eventually she gave in just to make Peeta happy.

So ya there really is no comparison...because Graceling is well written, perfectly paced, and just plain awesome. Ha-ha :D


Casey Sheyenne Tallyn-Goodfellow;) wrote: "I like Kasta and Po's relationship a lot better than Katniss and Peeta's. It was a lot more "adult" and they truely did love each other and were honest and open with each other. They learned how to..."

I agree with you completely.


message 16: by Noor (new) - rated it 5 stars

Noor Sheyenne Tallyn-Goodfellow;) wrote: "I like Kasta and Po's relationship a lot better than Katniss and Peeta's. It was a lot more "adult" and they truely did love each other and were honest and open with each other. They learned how to..."

I agree too! :) Word for word!


message 17: by Bee (new) - rated it 4 stars

Bee i think the comparisons come mainly come from the main characters, Katsa and Katniss. Even the names are similar. Both know how to hunt, both don't really care much to get married or have kids, both are strong individuals and are protective. The stories are NOTHING alike just the characters. I may have thought to much into something but Katniss and Katsa's men who like them Po and Peeta- both win the girl and both names start with P, Gale and Giddon- Both get rejected and names start with G. idk im weird but i thought to much into it


Danielle I love both series, but I think Graceling is just superior. There is something about the writing that I enjoy so much more. And I love that each book has its own heroine with her own awesomeness.

I love Hunger Games, but there is just a little too much fluff for me.


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