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I have no idea O.o must research it! Haha. But the creators of the list do sound very professional, so I assume we can trust them :)Thanks! Lol.
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But I dunno.
I kinda don't want his real first name to be William.
I want it to be Sherlock.
Wah.
I know >.<William Holmes doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Also, the BBC's Sherlock would be called William. Umm, no.
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Wouldn't worry too much, look at this: 3. The identities of the detective and the doctor. D. Martin Dakin speculatesthat the names “Sherlock Holmes” and “John H. Watson” (as well, of course, as
Mycroft Holmes and Mrs. Hudson) may be aliases.10 It must be admitted that
this is possible. There is no credible unambiguous public record of the existence
of either man. While researchers have unearthed school records of men named
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“Holmes”11 and medical resumés of various Watsons,12 none point unmistakably to the persons described in the Canon.
Why would Watson conceal Holmes’s identity? The most likely answer is
that Holmes insisted on it, for several reasons. First, Holmes may have believed
that if Watson publicized his name, his practice would suffer. Holmes may have
expected that publication of his cases, revealing the inadequacy of the official
forces—even with names of the clients, victims, and police officials changed—
could cause the loss of his valuable police connections.13 Also, he probably
feared that prospective clients would hesitate to employ him if it were known
that Watson would publish their family secrets, even anonymously. To persons
familiar with the actual participants in a case, it would not have been difficult to
pierce the fog created by Watson.14
But Holmes also seems to have had a constitutional bent toward anonymity,
which went beyond practical considerations.15 While Holmes might reasonably
fear that some prospective clients would not hire him for fear of publicity, surely
on the whole Watson’s tales substantially enhanced Holmes’s professional reputation and led to numerous engagements that did not require confidentiality.
Watson’s accounts were, simply put, good advertising.16 Yet Holmes complained, somewhat churlishly, about Watson’s “romanticism”17 and quite evidently ordered Watson to refrain from publication of cases while he was in
active practice.18
However, the suggestion that Holmes himself insisted on use of a pseudonym explains the detective’s name only in A Study in Scarlet, The Sign of the Four,
and The Hound of the Baskervilles. All of Watson’s other accounts appeared either
while Holmes was presumed dead (and so could not have objected to being
identified) or after Holmes’s retirement (when Holmes’s professional reputation
no longer required preservation). The appearance of the name “Holmes” in the
other stories written by Watson can be explained only on a commercial basis.
While Watson’s success with A Study in Scarlet and The Sign of the Four was limited, he had nonetheless built some audience for stories about “Holmes,” and
he must have been reluctant to start afresh. It may even be that George Newnes
and Greenhough Smith, publisher and editor, respectively, of the Strand, insisted on more tales of “Holmes,” rather than taking a risk on selling the public
on the exploits of an unknown (albeit real) detective. Furthermore, if the new
“Holmes” tales were well received, sales of the earlier publications would surely
increase, and Watson would profit.19
Of course, it would not do to conceal only Holmes’s name: If Watson used
his own name,20 the identity of “Holmes” would be evident.21
While a plausible case may be made, however, that “Holmes” and “Watson”
were pseudonyms, in the absence of definitive public records, no certainty can 9
be reached on the true names of the detective and the doctor.
http://betterholmesandgardens.blogspo... - · Why on earth would any parent named his child, “Sherlock”?
Well, with an older brother named “Mycroft” and, if William Baring-Gould is to be believed, another older brother named “Sherrinford,” I’m occasionally of the opinion that the Holmes parents were probably possessed of an appalling sense of humor. The name “Sherlock” means “with cropped hair,” or more popularly, “fair haired,” which is a particularly ironic descriptor as the Great Detective is typically depicted as having dark, usually black, hair. Renowned Sherlock Holmes scholar William Baring-Gould, in his biography, Sherlock Holmes of Baker Street, actually gave the Great Detective the full name of “William Sherlock Scott Holmes,” in addition to a number of other intriguing biographical items regarding Holmes’s early life. The addition of an extended full name for Holmes is curious. Going as “Sherlock” despite having a first name of “William,” indicates a preference, on some level, for the name “Sherlock.” But throughout the canon, the only person who calls Holmes by that name is his brother. Even his closest friend of nearly fifty years never refers to him as anything except “Holmes,” which seems to indicate that he somehow finds the name “Sherlock” repellant. Pulling on either thread, it seems, creates a whole new row of loose ends.
Even the cringe-inducing 2010 “mockbuster” entitled simply, “Sherlock Holmes,” makes light of this subject. At the end of the film, Watson (played by Gareth David-Lloyd) asks Holmes (played by Ben Syder) why the villain kept referring to Holmes as “Robert.” Holmes reveals that his full name is “Robert Sherlock Holmes,” and that he goes by Sherlock because, “Whoever heard of a detective named Robert?”
ღ♣✽ᕼᗝᕊᕊᓰT ᗩﬡD ᖘᖇᗝᘮD✽♣ღ (a.k.a. Johanna) wrote: "http://betterholmesandgardens.blogspo... - · Why on earth would any parent named his child, “Sherlock”?
Well, with an older brother named “Myc..."
Personally I think Sherlock is an awesome name :P
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Mel wrote: "Yeah, I like it. XD That little bit is rather intriguing. Sherlock is better than William or Robert and all that other stuff. I always thought Watson called him Holmes just because that's what they..."Yeah, that's my view P: I actually noticed the other day ... I'm reading the Memoirs, (for the first time :DD) and all throughout the books so far, he's always called him 'Holmes' or 'Sherlock Holmes'. Even when he's not talking to him - in the narrative, he's never Sherlock alone. And then, in The Greek Interpreter, when they meet Mycroft. Suddenly there are two Holmeses xD. So suddenly, Mycroft is Mycroft ... and Sherlock is Sherlock. It was just a small change, but I found it interesting. :)
And personally, I'm going to ignore all these people and call him SHERLOCK HOLMES. 'Cause that's his NAME. ^^
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YUS. MWAHAHA.
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Okay so I was calmly watching The Big Bang Theory
And then all of the sudden I see this:
Leonard
Leonard what do you think you're holding
Yeah, that's right. YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES, THAT MOVIE CREATED IN THE FIRES OF MOUNT DOOM. O_O
Leonard why
How can you do this to me -_-
!!!!!!!!!!!!! ha ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mel wrote: "WHOA WHOA WHOAOkay so I was calmly watching The Big Bang Theory
And then all of the sudden I see this:
Leonard
Leonard what do you think you're holding
Yeah, that's right. YOUNG SHERLOCK ..."
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Okay, I don't watch the Big Bang Theory very much, but that really is terrible D: That anyone should be holding it. From what you've told me, it should be thrown back into the firey chasm from whence it came .. .
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LOTR References are my specialty :)
D: Mine, too. xD It was bigger on Google images :P
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"The remarkable acumen by which Inspector MacKinnon deduced from the smell of paint that some other smell, that of gas, for example, might be concealed; the bold deduction that the strong-room might also be the death-chamber, and the subsequent inquiry which led to the discovery of the bodies in a disused well, cleverly concealed by a dog-kennel, should live in the history of crime as a standing example of the intelligence of our professional detectives."*retch*
So I just finished it.
The entire canon.
After much procrastinating, and slow reading, and squeezing my eyes shut, and trying to conjure more stories out of thin air (none of which worked).
And now I'm dead.
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*nods miserably* Poor me. Gah.
But that last story was so wonderful:D I love them all. Now for a re-read! ^_^
To everyone with a windows tablet, you can get free Holmes books off Google play if you know where to look. The most known ones are easy to find. The rarer ones, you have to really look for
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Oh my god, my mom just said 'the you tube'
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Yeah, over the summer. It's the cheapest laptop I've ever come across, but it has it's drawbacks.
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X3 Oh my.
Hey, have any of you heard of Wholock? Am I the only one who thinks this is a bad idea?
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No, I don't think it would work. If there were aliens in the Sherlockian universe, he would already know about them.
That would be great even if it doesn't make much sense. They should also add Daniel Craig as James Bond.
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I always thought that if there were supernatural beings of any kind in his world, Holmes would be a little thrown off by it. I'd be interested to see his reaction. But you do have a point, Sherlock usually knows what's going on.
The superwholock always reminds me of the book "Shadows over Baker Street". Holmes in a Lovecraft world. Gaiman's "A Study in Emerald" is my fav.
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Whoa, this is some cool jazz. ^_^ But yes, very confusing. Is that really his full name? I had no idea. And a second brother? Where is this info coming from? Was it in the book, or did people just kinda throw it out there? My mind is also boggled.