The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo (Millennium, #1) The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo discussion


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Is this a good book?

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message 151: by Mindy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mindy Halleck I so agree that the Swedish version movies DID make it come to life. And tho this series was not the greatest knock my socks off writing, it was fun and I couldn't put it down. Then of course, for we Daniel Craig fans, the American movie is the frosting on top of the cake. :)


message 152: by Anna (new) - rated it 5 stars

Anna Kupka Best books ever!


message 153: by Karl (new) - rated it 3 stars

Karl Øen No


message 154: by Betsy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Betsy Hetzel Since there are so many fans of this series, I would still like to know.... IF there were a 4th, what things would you like to see happen in it?
Hope that I get some answers :)


Terrance Zepke I thought it was horrible. Dark and depressing and violent. But I have heard it likened to American Horror Story (not my thing but popular with many folks). Again, just wasn't my thing...


message 156: by Duane (new) - rated it 1 star

Duane Betsy wrote: "Since there are so many fans of this series, I would still like to know.... IF there were a 4th, what things would you like to see happen in it?
Hope that I get some answers :)"


I want to see Mikael Blomkvist eat too many sandwiches, get fat, run up 7 flights of stairs, and drop dead of a heart attack.

K?


message 157: by Eva (new) - rated it 4 stars

Eva Pohler For me, it began slow but soon became un-put-downable. Later, when I reflected on it, I did feel Blomqvist was living a male fantasy that may have been unrealistic, but I still enjoyed the book and would recommend it.


Cecilia Okon The movie didnt do it justice...it's a great book. i loved all three of them. The writer's style is exquisite and mind engaging. Makes you ravish every minute part of the story.


message 159: by [deleted user] (new)

Page turner and basically all three parts of the trilogy rightly dominated the best seller's list for quite some time.

I actually saw the Girl with the Dragon's Tattoo (Swedish version) first in the cinema and then figured that the book might be a good use of my time a few days later. I then picked up parts two and three in airports a few weeks later because I just had to read the rest.

I later saw the rest of the movies as well (Swedish part 2 & 3) and the American remake of part 1. The latter is an interesting one. Arguably it is a remake that can stand in its own right. It actually stays a bit closer to the story and was shot on scene in Sweden. I like both versions though.


message 160: by spacey (new) - rated it 2 stars

spacey Everyone I know who has read it says yes. The story is interesting but I personally hated it.


message 161: by W. (new) - rated it 3 stars

W. It was a slow start...but I found the characters interesting.


message 162: by Duane (new) - rated it 1 star

Duane Eva wrote: "For me, it began slow but soon became un-put-downable. Later, when I reflected on it, I did feel Blomqvist was living a male fantasy that may have been unrealistic..."

Oh, you picked up on that too, huh? All the women he wanted, whenever he wanted them, with no strings attached. In reality, one of them would have killed him (or cut his nuts off) - and he'd have deserved it.

But maybe there's a bright spot in the firmament - maybe if the likes of Bill Clinton read it, they'll all move to Sweden?


message 163: by Betsy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Betsy Hetzel Never having lived abroad, I know nothing of how things go on in Sweden. Maybe Mikael's behavior is totally accepted there, simply a male "thing" ?

Chuckle on the Bill Clinton reference :)


message 164: by Tytti (new) - rated it 1 star

Tytti Considering that Sweden is one of the most liberal countries in the world, maybe in the top three, there isn't much that is NOT accepted for adults who are not hurting anyone, both men and women.


message 165: by Duane (new) - rated it 1 star

Duane I've heard that, but that sort of arrangement usually just makes for a feeding ground for male predators - which is what I was wondering about when I heard that whatsisname, Julian Assange? was getting sued or prosecuted or some damn thing by 2 or 3 different Swedish women; apparently he was "Cutting A Wide Swath", or whatever they call it, over there, and then the women decided they'd been "Had"?, or something?

but what the hell, if they actually WANT it that way over there, where's my plane ticket?!

Hmm... OTOH, after Blomqvist drops dead in my newly envisioned sequel, maybe all the women he's been "Doing" should find out that each other exist and then try to get his estate and discover that he had Yet Another secret life and blew all his money on sex junkets to Thailand and left them with nothing because he got jaded with Swedish women, Or Something... That oughta sell!


message 166: by Arno (new) - rated it 1 star

Arno I found the first few 10s of thousands of pages very tedious. Gave up on it. Did I miss out on something good? Don't care. I read something better :)


message 167: by Duane (new) - rated it 1 star

Duane OK, well, sometimes my cat demands attention and I have to go sit on the couch with him, and he gets mad if I leave, so I end up reading whatever comes to hand that I can reach from where I'm sitting, and one time it was The Girl With The Dragqueen Tattoo that somebody ELSE dragged into the house, so I ended up reading it by default.

I.e. it's not my fault I read it, I am the hapless victim of a manipulative Cat...


message 168: by Sarah (new) - rated it 2 stars

Sarah G I thought the book was OK, but nothing more than that. The excessive raving about the books baffles me somewhat. If my friends are anything to go by, I'd suggest that a lot of non-crime fiction readers read them and thought 'ooh, I like this kind of book' and thought it was a brilliant example of the genre, when it wasn't.


message 169: by Sophia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sophia James I am surprised by how many people didn't like the books. I loved them and I loved Lisbeth Salander. The author is really unusual and takes a great risk in making the first few chapters boring. I tell everyone to please going with it. It as if the author is challenging the reader.
He also makes his two main characters flawed but still manages to make them likeable which is no mean feat.


message 170: by Sophia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sophia James Carol wrote: "I also much prefer the Swedish version to the American one. The "feel" of the book is nicely reproduced in the Swedish while the American version felt like a horror story."


message 171: by Sophia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sophia James I agree the Swedish movies were much better than the Hollywood version although I thought both actresses played Lisbeth well.


message 172: by Tytti (last edited Aug 09, 2014 01:38PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Tytti Sophia wrote: " The author is really unusual and takes a great risk in making the first few chapters boring. I tell everyone to please going with it. It as if the author is challenging the reader."

Unfortunately it also stays boring till the end and I don't think the author meant even the start to be boring. So yes, it's a challenge.


message 173: by Duane (new) - rated it 1 star

Duane Sarah wrote: "I thought the book was OK, but nothing more than that. The excessive raving about the books baffles me somewhat. If my friends are anything to go by, I'd suggest that a lot of non-crime fiction r..."

hmmm... That got me thinking (congrats) - if it wasn't for the big flapdoodle over it, I probably would have just yawned and forgotten about it.

But now that the PC crowd and whoever is having a big orgasm over it and making movies and whatever, I am compelled to stomp on it in the name of Whatever (I'm not sure what yet... but it's a good cause, whatever it is)


Bridgette Janet wrote: "Maybe I shouldn't bother picking up book 3 again! The trilogy was so popular that quite a few stylists have come on to the market, such as Jo Nesbitt - ' Snowman' etc. What are his books like? Are ..."

I've read a few Jo Nesbo - very good. Less detailed than these, but still draw you in. Snowman was good - actually creeped me out quite a bit in parts :)


message 175: by Betsy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Betsy Hetzel To Janet and Bridgette, Jo Nesbo is one of my favorite authors and his character Det. Harry Hole is also a favorite. The Harry Hole series is all wonderful but so is his newest stand-alone book THE SON. I heartily recommend Nesbo !!


message 176: by Will (new) - rated it 2 stars

Will Once It's neither a good book or a bad one. Some people love it, some don't.

For me that usually happens when a book has strengths and weaknesses. Good bits and bad bits. That might be strong characters but a weak plot, or vice versa. Or good writing but not very exciting.

For me, the concept of Lisbeth is the book's main strength, and why the publishers quite rightly made her the focus of the title. For some people that will be enough for them to overlook or forgive the book's weaknesses, such as the long boring passages and the fact the supposed main character is a bit of author wish fulfilment.

For other people, the problems will outweigh the Lisbeth factor.

That's what makes reading such a subjective thing. We all want different things from a book.


message 177: by Betsy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Betsy Hetzel You summed it up perfectly, Will, and I totally agree. We all bring something different to our book reads and no two people have quite the same experience.
I have always believed that it is the character of Lisbeth Salander that drives the positive reaction to this trilogy; I find her unique and completely captivating, so different than anyone w/in my world. Would be interesting to know what Larsson had lined up for her in the future but....


message 178: by Tytti (new) - rated it 1 star

Tytti I just thought the plot, especially Lisbeth's story, was too unbelievable. And I didn't find her that special, either.


message 179: by Betsy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Betsy Hetzel And that, Tytti, is why there's chocolate and vanilla ice cream :)


message 180: by Tytti (new) - rated it 1 star

Tytti Betsy wrote: "And that, Tytti, is why there's chocolate and vanilla ice cream :)"

I also live next to Sweden so I know quite a lot about that country.


message 181: by Sophia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sophia James Will wrote: "It's neither a good book or a bad one. Some people love it, some don't.

For me that usually happens when a book has strengths and weaknesses. Good bits and bad bits. That might be strong character..."



message 182: by Sophia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sophia James I agree with this and I loved the book. I never thought of Mikael being author wish fulfilment, but recognise it as such as I am doing the same for the principal character in the book I am currently writing.


message 183: by Duane (new) - rated it 1 star

Duane One more reason (as if there weren't enough) why the Salamander chick isn't believable: any of the punk rock girls I know, would bash your head in with a skateboard in about 2 seconds if you tried any of that "Abuse" crap with them (Assuming you were lucky and they didn't cut your throat with something in their boot)


message 184: by Kathy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kathy Yes it was a great story!


message 185: by Connie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Connie One of the best and most memorable books I ever read.


message 186: by Will (new) - rated it 2 stars

Will Once I wonder if this thread will keep on going round in circles as people who love the book alternate with people who don't?


message 187: by Tytti (new) - rated it 1 star

Tytti Probably.


message 188: by Duane (new) - rated it 1 star

Duane well, if it really *bothers* y'all, I'm sure it could be hijacked, as an alternative, for instance by by somebody asking "Why do you hate Robin Williams?", or something. (Of curse *I* would NEVER do something like that... But where's the Amanita these days?).


message 189: by Will (new) - rated it 2 stars

Will Once Not bothered, just curious.

What is an Amanita?


message 190: by Betsy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Betsy Hetzel Perhaps it IS time to change the thread....


message 191: by Duane (last edited Aug 14, 2014 12:56PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Duane (oh, no... should I even answer this)

An Amanita is a professional, *expert* disruptor, of incalculable deviousness, who WOULD do something like ask "Why do you hate Robin Williams?" just to watch the world burn... (Hence Betsy's warning...)


message 192: by John (new) - rated it 5 stars

John It is a terrific book. Both movies did as good a job as a movie can at being faithful to the book both with the characters and the storyline.


Nathalie It's excellent and definitely worth reading. Am now reading the sequel! Check out this great blog post about it: http://www.bookmenus.co/2012/01/girl-...


message 194: by Betsy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Betsy Hetzel Well,Duane, at least I learned a new vocabulary word.... never heard of an "amanita". Thanks!

In our State College (Penn State) magazine this month, someone on the lookout for other Scandinavian thrillers in the vein of THE GIRL WITH.... suggested KILLER'S ART, Jungstedt and ARTIC CHILL, Indridason. Anyone familiar w/ either book/author?


message 195: by Tytti (new) - rated it 1 star

Tytti Betsy wrote: "never heard of an "amanita""

It's a name, or a nick, and it's not even spelled like that. Don't take it seriously.

Well I know of Indriðason and I know a couple of people who read his books...


message 196: by Jean (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jean I think this is a great book. Not what I normally read but it pulls you in. However, I probably would not read it again or watch the movie.


message 197: by Betsy (last edited Aug 15, 2014 06:21AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Betsy Hetzel I just checked out the above blog post of Book Menus and found some "interesting' information that I think someone earlier asked:
How many sandwiches did B. eat or how many times were sandwiches mentioned? 6 sandwiches were mentioned
pages 227, 271, 328, 330, 351, 461 and 580.
Coffee was mentioned 10 X and Aquavit 5 X.

Who would ever take the time to find this trivia? But, now we know the rest of the story :)


message 198: by Mariah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mariah This is my favorite book in the trilogy! I didn't like the second or the third book as much as the first book! It's pretty graphic so it's not for everyone but I really enjoyed it and I would recommend it to anyone.


message 199: by Duane (new) - rated it 1 star

Duane Betsy wrote: "I just checked out the above blog post of Book Menus and found some "interesting' information that I think someone earlier asked:
How many sandwiches did B. eat or how many times were sandwich..."


GOOD job! What's the Internuts for anyway...

NOW - For the bonus point! - How many sandwiches did Stieg Larrssonn eat before he ran up the 7 flights of stairs to his doom??


message 200: by Bùi (new) - rated it 4 stars

Bùi Khắc Tú it's good book, but some time i confuse about heroine personality. she's genius with cruel past and somehow i can't get the way she thinking.


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