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Our second group anthology-Submissions to Ignite by end of September, please.
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Patti (baconater)
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Jun 27, 2012 01:17PM
Yeah, that's a better way of describing it Peanut.
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Coolio, will have a look tomorrow as laptop is now off and downstairs! I am upstairs reading :-)
I think it looks quite cool. The tree I mean. But I've got confused about the vegetables. I have a summer cold and I'm pretty much dead from the neck up.cheers
MTM
I like the simple one too (and the eyes!) It has to have impact at a small size. The authors' names will all be inside and each story/poem will have the name and blog/website address too.
New cover. Blue, same as the Gallimaufrey. Greens slightly different and full group name :-)http://www.goodreads.com/photo/group/...
I haven't a clue what a salmagundi is, it sounds like some kind of glue but there's a nice, sort of 1960s anthology (with a dash of 1980s) feel to the design. I like the eyes too.Cheers
MTM
Emma (Emz) wrote: "New cover. Blue, same as the Gallimaufrey. Greens slightly different and full group name :-)http://www.goodreads.com/photo/group/..."
That's a lovely blue, isn't it?
It's so close to perfect, in my humble opinion. The greens aren't quite right though.
But as I said, could be my iPad?
No probs, I'll have a play with colours tomorrow. It is no biggy to change it and I have heaps of time! I expected this project to take a few weeks, not for me to like the very first thing I do........ Ah well, will have to get my creative juices going in some other ways..... Maybe writing!!! Pfft.....
Emz, I'm more than happy to send you three or four HUGE boxes of photos and bits from years of travels,you know. :)
It's grand. Greens are a little dark but you don't want them so light that there's no contrast. Well done that woman. This is truly turning into a group work!
Good to see that the Salmanrushdie is progressing...How will we stop it being burned by fanatics?
I think you and I are the only fanatics here, dear. They won't let me have matches. Or pointed instruments.
I thought it was a Solomongrundy?
At least I know where the salad idea came from. A bit like that Police song where they sing "so lonely" but it sounds like "salami" to me.Cheers
MTM
Ah yes, and I could have sworn that U2 were singing 'Electric Busstop' instead of 'Electrical Storm'
Apologies if this has been asked before, but does the group book have an age rating? Can I write something with a adult theme?
Not sure about age ratin Rosen. I am sure Ignite will be along shortly to answer that one! I have changed the grass colour (made it lighter) and the writing at the bottom had to go black else it was hard to read but i think it looks ok anyway, your thoughts all?
http://www.goodreads.com/photo/group/...
Oh yes. the greens are lovely now :Dit looks like someones came along and artfully cut bits of the tree out
Yes Emma I think that is lovely.But who is hiding in the tree? (mm, short story comp?) Or is it just a squid...
Ha ha! We could make it a comp and the winner gets it published in the book :-)
It's a book for adults Rosen so adult material is fine. We have one racy little story already.
Ignite wrote: "It's a book for adults Rosen so adult material is fine. We have one racy little story already."Yay!
Emma (Emz) wrote: "Not sure about age ratin Rosen. I am sure Ignite will be along shortly to answer that one! I have changed the grass colour (made it lighter) and the writing at the bottom had to go black else it w..."
Gorgeous. Simply gorgeous.
Ignite wrote: "It's a book for adults Rosen so adult material is fine. We have one racy little story already."Might not be racy, more likely to be a comedy about racy fiction, but we shall see.
I'm not sure what I'm going to write for this yet... need to start pondering!
Ponder away David. A comedy about racy fiction ticks 2 boxes Rosen!
And Emma, that's fab!
I thought it was a Solomongrundy? lol. Better publish it on a Monday then.
Regarding "adult" material. It's important it has a general appeal. For example, let's say I write something for middle-grade. I'm not going to be able to promote the book in those circles if it has very strong adult material in it...
It makes sense to keep it along a general appeal, imho.
Let's take a sounding then.What do others feel?
Edit - We had some horror type stuff in the other book. How general is general?
Feel free to tone the F-bomb in my submission down to "screwed" if that's the will of the group. Seems a shame though.
Well, good question! Most anthologies are themed and so this problem is avoided ;) Of course, we can't do that (unless you want to do at least a half dozen books!). Though I guess two different versions might be doable, though not ideal.If "adult" material is included, we could still have other stories in there - it's just that I wouldn't be able to promote it to my audience. That's a pity because the real power of the anthology is that each author promotes it and thus everyone benefits. For that reason I suggest that writing something that aims at a general appeal would most solidly see the book promoted.
I'll go with whatever anyone wants to put in it.It'd make no sense to have it as a general appeal when it comes from such a wide group of authors we have here. It'll be like stamping on their little creative voices.
(this is meant to be a personal book coming from us - in my opinion it's lovely if it does well but we aren't marketing it for the next big seller :S)
I'm fine with that, Elle - just sayin' that us authors would probably benefit more from a book that had a general appeal.And, yes, I am interested in promotion and making sales ;)
Ye but this book about a big hug from the group to the group, not really about single authors (although that's lovely all the same if you do make good from it)although that's the way i see it anyway.
and what about us people who strictly read adult books? we'd see no appeal in a 'general audience' one.
I will, of course, be grateful for inclusion whatever the nature of other authors' entries (if I ever get anything written!)
That's the biggie isn't it. Who's our audience. There are a lot of people who would find funny fantasy a lot mroe offensive than adult but I'm going to put some in... if I can think of anything to write. My brain's a bit empty at the moment.Edited to add: I'm totally squeamish about horror. Really can't read it but that won't stop me from buying the book if there's some in or reading the story until it gets scary (snortle). Likewise with erotic fiction, if it's good, why not put it in and market it as an anthology with a stress on the variation among the writers included.
You could always have a disclaimer to state that a couple of stories in there are not suitable for children. Or ask each author to give their piece a film rating, you know; u, pg, 15, 18 etc I can't remember what they are exactly but you get my drift. I think the US do old UK; u, a, pg, x, xx but don't quote me on that.
I think a film classification is far more useful anyway. My book is PG and aimed at the YA market. I know many 10 year olds who'd lap it up but I also know some 12 year olds who'd find it scary. Age banding so depends on the child but if it says PG you know at once whether it will appeal.
Cheers
MTM
That was really rambly wasn't it? But does it make any sense?
US film ratings are:G - Generally suitable for all
PG - Parental Guidance recommended
PG-13 - May be inappropriate for people under 13
R - Under 17 must be accompanied by an adult
NC-17 - Nobody under 17
UK film ratings are
U - Universal, suitable for all
PG - Parental Guidance recommended
12 - (video only) Nobody under 12
12A - (Cinema only) Under 12 must be accompanied by an adult
15 - Nobody under 15
18 - Nobody under 18
R18 - Sexually explicit material restricted to licensed premises
Essentially the differences are in terms of the age breaks, but that does sometimes lead to problems, particularly with films that are made for the PG-13 market. For example, The Hunger Games was PG-13 in the US, but deemed to be 15 in the UK. Since the producers felt a 15 rating would seriously reduce their audience, it was cut to achieve a 12A rating. (The DVD out later this year is uncut and has the 15 rating)
Last time we didn't specify a genre, category or theme. It was just a bit of all-round-the-counter.It was really only us that bought it too!
Seems to me that the first one was a complete mixture and did well enough. I don't think anyone expected folk to 'rave' about it. It's more by the group and for the group. Most of us know the authors who submitted to it and the kind of things they write. There was no problem in the first one, so why limit the range of the second. I don’t like erotic fiction and not that keen on graphic horror however I would not expect them to be vetoed from the collection just because of that. Others enjoy reading them, I can always skip what I don’t fancy reading. This is my honest opinion go for it!.
That's how I felt - until DM was concerned about adult content - he hasn't even submitted anything to date - *ahem* - large hint!
Totally my point! Something for everyone :D
Pat (Scorpio) wrote: "... Others enjoy reading them, I can always skip what I don’t fancy reading...."As I have mentioned previously I don't like poetry & will skip that as well as any really gory/horror stories. It wouldn't stop me from getting the book unless the poetry/horror was the majority of the collection.
PS My favourite books
contain poetry. I have re-read both books many times but always skip over the poetry.
I'd like to vote for no certificates or age ratings on fiction, please. I would suggest simply stating the genre of each story in the contents, maybe in brackets or italics after the story title. So readers know in advance which one is horror, erotica, poetry, or whatever else they may not wish to read.
Otherwise I strongly feel that it's up to the reader to make their own judgements. If you buy an anthology, you expect a mixed bag - that's the whole point of an anthology!
Good taste in books, Pat! My favourites, too!The problem exists in that if I wish to approach a parents'/mums'/school group and say "Hey, you can read a sample of my writing in this anthology...but, erm, you have to skip some other bits and don't let your child actually read it, you'll have to read it to them because they might read the other bits and -"
Well, it's complicated ;)
I think the best solution is for me simply to write something not aimed at children; though I do like to see some kind of guidance on a book or story as to its content - a description is often better than a rating. I mean I've seen films that were PGs that should've been 18s, and 18s that should've been PGs!
And that is why it's called a Salimungy.
it's meant to be an insane pick n mix :D
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