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message 51: by Claudia Victoria (new)

Claudia Victoria (claudiavictoria) The Infernal Devices, hands down. Because WILL HERONDALE.


message 52: by Emilia (new)

Emilia (doctorherondale) | 186 comments @Claudia: YES!!!!! So true!!!


message 53: by Crystal (new)

Crystal I havent read either lol but since mortal instruments is the only one ik bout ima have to say them lol


message 54: by Jill (new)

Jill (themagicofbooks) | 27 comments THE INFERNAL DEVICES. It is in an awesome century... big dresses... awesome balls.... and better developed characters. I think these were slightly better personally.


message 55: by Crystal (new)

Crystal @jill do you have to read mortal instruments do understand infernal devices?


message 56: by Lizzy (new)

Lizzy Crystal wrote: "@jill do you have to read mortal instruments do understand infernal devices?"

Hey Crystal, no you don't have to read Mortal Instruments first to understand Infernal Devices. I liked Infernal Devices better. But there both good series.


message 57: by Crystal (new)

Crystal @lizzy thxss lol well I might read it then :)


message 58: by Gabrielle (new)

Gabrielle | 7 comments Infernal devices. No offense I love TMI but the characters in the infernal devices. Tessa is amazing. I love Jem and Will. Henry and Charlotte are adorable. I also love Magnus. I read TMI first and Magnus changed a lot. But yeah the love triangle in the TID was unique because of how technically Tessa was with both of them.


message 59: by Emilia (new)

Emilia (doctorherondale) | 186 comments Agreed the characters in TID were just perfect


message 60: by Ana Beatriz (new)

Ana Beatriz Esteves (anabeatrizesteves) | 1 comments I think they complemenet each other as being part of a great story! They are so well connected and written i such an amazing way that I really cannot choose between one of them!


message 61: by Emilia (new)

Emilia (doctorherondale) | 186 comments True the relationships between all the characters were complicated. Marriage, family, love, friendship, all relationships were confusing and heartbreaking, but also wonderful and heartfelt.


message 62: by liam (new)

liam (loonarmy) | 10 comments TID. 'Nough said


message 63: by Emma (new)

Emma (magnusbanessparkleliner) | 1 comments I love the Mortal Instruments and The Infernal Devices equally for different reasons, but I feel like I connected to Tessa a lot more than I did with Clary, and I love the time setting of TID. And WILL HERONDALE. But both were really great series that went hand in hand and it was WONDERFULLLLL


message 64: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (theyafangirl17) | 22 comments While I am in love with Simon, and Malec is goals to me, I am totally on team Infernal Devices. TMI was stretched out, and I just could not get behind the whole brother-sister maybe-maybe-not deal. Clace I just did not ship.

Wessa and Jessa, however, were dreamy relationships. They deal with a lot of issues I think that relationships can relate too, such as: indecision, denial, unrequited love (old school crushes suck), and then there is the fact that Tessa faces the choice of saving those she loves.

Then there is the fact of the amazingness that isn't romance. All other characters are killer, and this series is way better than TMI.


message 65: by J (new)

J This discussion is making me feel like I need to reread TID. I'm starting to feel like I missed something... (I was pretty sick when I read the series; maybe my fever didn't allow me to absorb it all)


message 66: by Kristen (new)

Kristen Marie | 6 comments I loved both series for different reasons. I think my favorite part was how each the series tie in and weave around each other at parts. I don't think I'd ever be able to pick between the two.


message 67: by Dana (new)

Dana Ridenour I loved both series too. If I had to choose, I would probably pick TMI. I love Clary and Jace.


message 68: by Sophia (new)

Sophia | 95 comments Infernal devices i have to say just because Will, Tessa and Jem are better.... no offense to Alec, Simon, Jace, Izzy, and Isabelle. Magnus is being taken out b/c he is awesome in both books :)


message 69: by Anika (new)

Anika (ladymelaike) | 6 comments Both are great! But I do prefer TID because of the time period, it feels good to read fantasy at another time period besides the 21st century :)


message 70: by Sherrie (last edited Jun 13, 2015 05:09AM) (new)

Sherrie | 90 comments I love TID but I am frustrated with the epilogue.
;/ although it is beautifully written but it kind of pissed me off!
I know maybe , maybe she tries to satisfy all the readers...
BUT I'm Team WILL ALL the way!!!
And I don't believe believe that one can love two people equally at once.
Throughout the book, I was look "Tessa, pick one! pick one!"
I really couldn't accept the fact that Tessa's STILL IN LOVE with Jem even when she's married to Will.
What if Jem didn't need to die? What if he didn't have to become a SB? Would she have chosen Will?
(I'd consider it as a Sad ending maybe?)

I guess TMI is a happy ending?
(Haven't finished) (But I prefer happy ending)


message 71: by Lauraeimre (new)

Lauraeimre | 49 comments Seriously??? But I have to go with TID :)


message 72: by Anna (new)

Anna (abookobsessed) | 9 comments Some books in the TMI series are really unnecessary and boring in my opinion, and thus I have to go with TID. These books are a lot more fast-paced and I really love all these characters so much. (I love the TMI characters equally though). The ending kind of bothered me in both series' but I love all of them nevertheless.


message 73: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 1 comments Cherry wrote: "I love TID but I am frustrated with the epilogue.
;/ although it is beautifully written but it kind of pissed me off!
I know maybe , maybe she tries to satisfy all the readers...
BUT I'm Team WILL ..."

I agree. I would have liked it better without the epilogue.


message 74: by Gia (last edited Jun 14, 2015 09:21AM) (new)

Gia Cherry wrote: "I love TID but I am frustrated with the epilogue.
;/ although it is beautifully written but it kind of pissed me off!
I know maybe , maybe she tries to satisfy all the readers...
BUT I'm Team WILL ..."


^I totally agree with you. I love Will too! I was so much in grief that Will died and he was so old whereas Tessa remained young. I wish they had grown old together :(
Then she went off with Jem and..I just felt bad for Will.
Jem was indeed an amazing character but I really wanted him to stay as the ‘best friend' of both Tessa and Will. Perhaps a miraculous cure was found for him? And he finds a new girl ;).....


message 75: by Rori (new)

Rori (rori_mischke) | 137 comments I liked how she got them both. She loved them both, and unlike every other love triangle, she didn't have to give one up. When Will died I cried for like an hour! So beautiful;)


message 76: by Kat (last edited Jun 19, 2015 03:16AM) (new)

Kat | 334 comments I definitely liked TID better than TMI. Lots of people did too. It was sad at the end when Will died - but we knew Tessa would outlive Will because she is immortal and all and I felt like how's that gonna work but it did and then he died, but besides that I actually liked the epilogue. I felt really bad for Jem who liked Tessa as well and I was kinda satisfied that in the end they got together too. And it was good that it was all explained in TMI how Jem got cured. I also like the setting of TID, how its all in England in the 1800s(?)
In TMI, after the third book, and realising there were more books, I felt kinda like really? the author's writing more? I thought it was finished (because Valentine dies, you know and Sebastion sorta dies but doesn't). And I was like, well, great more books, but also like is it necessary? But I suppose if there wasn't more books there would be less Clary and Jace moments. I felt like in the three books, what, they are brother and sister? and how it was obvious that they would be together in the end and how they should have found out faster but I suppose it is just part of the plot. I skipped the 2nd book entirely because I couldn't get it and I thought I might miss some important stuff, though the only thing important was Simon turning into a vampire. I felt some of the fourth and fifth book was dragging-ish. Anyway, as for characters, I really liked Tessa, she was cool. And Will and Jem. I liked Clary too, but sometimes I felt she was a bit annoying, if I can say that. Though, Jace is very funny. Still, I really liked TMI as well, especially the ending, where all the characters are together and happy, and Magnus and Alec are together. And I was like, wait what, Simon becomes a shadowhunter? lol. I felt sad though because he and Isabelle have to semi-start again. And the author writing Emma and Julian who we hadn't heard of before into the last book, which also sets them up for a new series, was interesting.


message 77: by Adriana (new)

Adriana | 6 comments I loved TMI, but it doesn't stand a chance against TID, which is like one of my ultimate favourite series. Should I even start explaining why I love it so much?
I mean, just saying "Will Herondale" should be reason enough (I like Jace, but Will is a hundred times better)... but there's not just that.
I generally don't like love triangles, because they often end up being boring and the protagonists like to choose the one I am not rooting for... but when they are done well, like in TID, I can't help but loving them! I like Wessa more than Jessa - Will and Tessa seem to be made for each other! - but there's a sort of balance in the dynamics between the 3 of them, they all love each other, whether it be romantically or a "familiar" bond.
Tessa, Will and Jem were all interesting characters, with their faults and their qualities, all unique in their own ways, but deeply bonded.
I also liked the other characters, like Charlotte and Sophie, and finding out more about Magnus's past.
Besides, it's set in London at the end of the 19th century... how could I possibly resist? :)


message 78: by Artemisia (new)

Artemisia Sage (bookworm56) | 29 comments I Love BOTH but I pick TID because I seriously love tessa, jem, and will. Also the rest of the characters... they are all just awesome. I love Gideon w/ Sophie and Gabriel w/ Cecily and Henry w/ Charlotte. I love all the subtle humor from will that is dispersed throughout the pages that you just want to remember forever :)


message 79: by Dean (new)

Dean Mazer (deaniebean) I definitely connected more with Tessa than I ever did with Clary... It ended where it should have, had plenty of Magnus moments and provided a neat connection to the main series!


message 80: by Cas ♛ (new)

Cas ♛ (rowangalathynius) I loved both, but TMI can't compare with how much I loved TID. I read TID first, and I definitely see that as a good choice. I found Tessa easier to relate to than Clary, and I definitely pick Jem over Jace.


message 81: by Lauraeimre (new)

Lauraeimre | 49 comments The infernal devices :)
First of all this series has less books. And second of all : Jem and Will are better than Jace. And I didn't like this :"We're siblings but then we are not" thing in TMI.


message 82: by Luna (new)

Luna The infernal devices! I loved the mortal instruments but sometimes the characters annoyed me, whereas tmi characters were always amazing and i cried so much in the end


message 83: by Skydreamer (last edited Feb 01, 2016 08:20AM) (new)

Skydreamer Lee | 61 comments The Infernal Devices!!!!! The love triangle between Jem, Will and Tessa could be one of the best written love triangles in the whole history of writing. I can't even decide whether to ship Wessa or Jessa, because I love them both so so so so much. It's just heartachingly beautiful, the way they love each other. And also, THE ENDING!!!!!!! Oh my God it got me crying even harder than TFIOS or any other book (Maybe except Allegiant) I made such huge mistake reading the last third of it in class while the teacher is teaching, because my crying totally gave me away and everybody thought I was bonkers.
But then there are also a lot of things in The Mortal Instruments that I like better than The Infernal Devices, like how The Mortal Instruments is more fast paced, the 20th century background, how Jace is more sassier than Will in my opinion (please don't kill me) and how Clary is a Shadowhunter.


message 84: by Ashley (new)

Ashley | 19 comments infernal devices hands down! I do like the mortal instruments but the story and characters are so much better in the infernal devices


message 85: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 143 comments The Infernal Devices!! Will, Jem, and Tessa's relationship is so amazing! It's one of the few love triangles were I love them both so much and have a really hard time choosing.


message 86: by Awesome (new)

Awesome Momi | 38 comments I'll have to say that I Hated infernal devices(don't really know y)!!
But I loved mortal instruments!!


message 87: by Katie (new)

Katie Jaros (katiejaros) | 11 comments Mortal Instruments-- Clary/Jace stuff is way more compelling, as well as what goes down with Sebastian and the whole mystery brother thing. That was mega creepy...and kept me reading well into the night after my eyes were begging to go to bed.


message 88: by Farren (new)

Farren (mmmcookies) | 302 comments I am in the extreme minority here, but I barely made it through Clockwork Angel and rated it 2 stars. It's like Cassandra rewrote the same cast of characters, but this time she magnified all of their bad qualities. I don't like historical fiction or steampunk, so I guess the modern timeline of TMI works better for me. Maybe I need to read on, because Tessa seemed just as impulsive to me as Clary, only a little more mature. I mean, didn't she risk everyone's lives to save her brother before he betrayed her?


cali 𖡼.𖤣𖥧𖡼.𖤣𖥧 (calsreadingcorner) @Farren that's probably why you don't like TMI- If you don't like historical fiction, you probably won't enjoy a fantasy that's based in the 1870-90's.


message 90: by Farren (new)

Farren (mmmcookies) | 302 comments Cal wrote: "@Farren that's probably why you don't like TMI- If you don't like historical fiction, you probably won't enjoy a fantasy that's based in the 1870-90's."

I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised lol But it was the characters and audiobook narration that ruined it for me, not the setting =(


message 92: by Kim (new)

Kim Lisa (readingsolvesallmyproblems) Infernal Devices for me!! I feel like Cassandra Clare's writing improved with each book in TMI and that it was even better in the Infernal Devices.


message 93: by Moon (new)

Moon (eccb17) The Infernal Devices for me as well. But I do think that I wouldn't love the Infernal Devices as much as I do if it wasn't for the Mortal Instruments.


message 94: by [deleted user] (new)

I absolutely love both but The Infernal Devices is my all time favorite book series.


message 95: by Edacheeky (last edited May 10, 2016 03:19AM) (new)

Edacheeky | 385 comments I absolutely love TID - it's now my favourite trilogy. I'm about 1/3 of the way through TMI and so far it's not bad but it's not as awesome and amazing as TID was. Also TMI has a different vibe/mood to TID idk how to explain it but yeah.


message 96: by Lina (new)

Lina | 79 comments The infernal devices, i loved the characters, the plot, the love triangle, the sweet romance, the set of time, they were really interesting books, so i say The infernal Devices.


message 97: by Sana (last edited Jul 10, 2016 01:21PM) (new)

Sana Zameer (sanazameer) I have read and enjoyed both series, but TID is my favorite. I think TID is more well plotted and well written than TMI, which at times felt like too stretched. Also the TID characters are more relatable to me. And a huge reason for loving this series is WILLIAM HERONDALE!


message 98: by Alexa (new)

Alexa (boadicandria) If it wasn't for the last three books of TMI it wouldn't be that easy for me to decide...
But it is how it is. And therefore I think I like TID more. The setting is more attractive and OMG - WILL HERONDALE.
I just have this weakness for the cursed guys...
And of course this series has one of the best endings I've ever read.


message 99: by Kathryn (new)

Kathryn Mayers The Infernal Devices definitely! I love the characters and settings way more than in The Mortal Instruments, but I still really liked that series too:)


message 100: by Marlene (new)

Marlene Young | 5 comments Infernal Devices!


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