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Sansa...Queen in the North...
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Jul 31, 2012 09:45PM
I want to say Sphinx but I don't think that sounds right.
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Nope that's lion in the rear and a lady in the front..... I know I think I just invented a new species .....you heard it here first!
I think you might be referring to some sort of sphinx there:)
The enigmatic Sphinx sits at the base of the Cheops pyramid in Cairo. It has the head of a woman and the body of a lion. It always asks the tricky questions like " what walks on 4 legs in the morning, 2 at miday and 3 at night?' if you answer incorrectly you die.
And like the Game of Thrones,you solve her riddle and win, or you die, simple, brutal, practical,and utterly Lannister:)
But, Woolfie Ned didn't want the power. & he assumed that because he was an honorable man people (Lannisters) would treat him in kind.
Ned knew what kind of people the Lannisters are...( Kingslayers) he just a momentary lapse, when his own children were concerned. He tried to give Cersi a way out, before a public humiliation. Cersi held all the cards in this game by making Jeoff king and Sansa his "queen". So to save Sansa and Arya he yielded, not realizing the childish revenge that Jeoff would take on him, once he came to power. He was assured he would be able to "take the Black" and live out his life at the wall, while his children would be spared. Well, that didn't work out so well did it...
and people wonder why i don't like the Lannisters, exccept for Tyrion.
AND Kevan. Say what you want about the Lannisters (my favorite family), but Tyrion and Kevan were the best of the clan. Kevan put Cersei in her place a few times and told her like it was. Tywin had his problems, but I think if ANY man could bring the splintered continent of Westeros together, Tywin would be the man.And how could you not love poor young Tommen and brave Myrcella (who didn't cry when she got shipped off to Dorne and lost an ear)?
Better to lose an ear than to have it bitten off? I love me the "Lanny boys" as well! Tyrion can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned, and Sansa should have stayed with him. He would have protected her. " HALFMAN! "aaarrrggghhhh!!!
(sorry I got carried away.) Ada-Lee loves her axes!
I do like Myrcella. Tommen is becoing Cersei's puppet.
I would like Sansa a lot more if she ended up back with Tyrion
Maggie wrote: "But, Woolfie Ned didn't want the power. & he assumed that because he was an honorable man people (Lannisters) would treat him in kind."No, I agree, Ned was just too damn honourable for his own good. Unlike Petyr and Varys who could see where the power lay, or where popular support lay, he went for the logical choice in Stannis. Let's face it, Stannis is a grumpy git, who expects people to fall in line because he has the 'right' to be king. Now we know what happens to people who think they have right and justice on their side. Ned had right and justice on his side, but lacked subtlety, lacked the knowhow to survive in the game. He didn't want to play but got sucked in out of his loyalty to Robert,ho was an incompetent fool. Sure he was popular, but he was never really King material let's face it, he wasn't smart, tactful or commanded sufficient respect, he was coarse, crass, boorish and insensitive, but then again, that was an improvement on the supposed insane egomaniac the Mad King was.
Ned should have got out with the girls while he could.
Yes, but the phrase 'felt honour bound to intervene and couldn't leave well enough alone' comes to mind:p
He warned Cersei, he planned a ship for their departure. He wasn't technically honor bound to stay after that.
Yeah true, but honestly it might have seemed like a warning before running away, I'd think he reckoned with the ciy watch on his side courtesy of the 'reliable' Littlefinger, he had little to fear. Sucks to be him sadly.
He made a big mistake in trusting Littlefinger. Everyone knows Littlefinger can't be trusted.
Except Ned apparently, even after, (and I think it was in the book) he said 'distrusting me was the smartest thing you've done since you came to King's Landing' I think he presumed too much on Petyr's regard for Catelyn, thinking harming me means Cat will be hurt, and Petty Baeliah doesn't want to hurt her, err WRONG!
I have nicknamed him Littletwistedfinger for a very good reason!
I think I should copyright that!
Well let's hope she's a lot more savvy if that really does come to pass:) I don't want her to be anyone's puppet of ornament as she has been thus far
I agree that Sansa is getting a lot of on the job training in treachery. She really has not had many good options. In the beginning, she was even more gullible than Ned, but I doubt she trusts anyone now. She is not one of my favorite characters. On a side note, I don't think GRRM can kill Tyrion, but I have been wrong before on that count.
Daeny wrote: "Woolfie wrote: "Well let's hope she's a lot more savvy if that really does come to pass:) I don't want her to be anyone's puppet of ornament as she has been thus far"I actually completely agree w..."
I didn't think she'd be the first to die, I thought she was a moth, she was just so caught up in her idiotic girlishness and wilful perception of a world of heroes and dragons, that she would never be perceived as a threat by anyone, hence why she survived in the lion's den, literally where I honestly think her other siblings would have met a rather quick death. It's to her credit that she'd oblivious, she's conventional, she's a doll, and bad guys don't kill dolls, they use them, until the puppet's learns to cut her own strings or learns to play the game. As you say she's been around some of the most adept, treacherous players of the game of thrones, literally, and if she learned nothing at all from that then well, she had better hope she remains pretty and usable so that she gets shoved away in a safe corner with her Prince charming and has him some kids, but I doubt she's that obtuse:p
Good comparison Wolfman, she will cut her strings when she needs to, and hopefully Littletwistedfinger's ties to all that can or will save him! That .....Is my prediction.
