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I did see a movie based on a book first. That was Coraline. Hadn't been introduced to Neil Gaiman at the time and didn't realize it was based on a book. LOVED the movie. Have the book on my Kindle now but haven't read it yet.




Sometimes see the movie, maybe read the book if you want; eg 2001 a space odyssey- if you want to understand what you just watched, by Clarke, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo- it takes a lot less time than Larrson
Sometimes if makes no difference: eg Never Let Me Go, by Ishiguro, beautiful either way


With Tinker, Tailor, I saw the movie first (LOVE Gary Oldman!) and then I read the book. It didn't decrease my enjoyment of the book, at all, to know the plot before I read it.




When I see the movie first, it can be because I didn't know about the book's existence before the movie (ie The Invention of Hugo Cabret, Cirque du Freak, The Pianist, Angela's Ashes).
If the movie is very good (or excellent), it can motivate you to find and read the book.



Yes the plot was the same but it was odd not seeing Alec Guinness playing Smiley although Gary Oldman does an admirable job. And even though overall the theme was the same the film seem to go about it in a different way. I think I need to see the film again to get use to the new thinking on the book.

I know what you mean. It reminds me when I read Death Note and then I watched the anime. In the second part, some passages were changed, however, the problamatic reached the same solution with the same explanation of how it was solved.

Thanks for your reply, but I should have also added the the detail had also changed in the film, the location and the way a shooting was carried out, kept faithful by the BBC, was nothing like the book in the film version. If I had seen this film first then read the book I would have been perplexed.

I read the book first and then I watched the movie. I agree that many things changed although the main problem had the same culprit and how did he do it without explaining every detail.
First of all, for instance, the country where Prideaux was taken as prisioner wasn't Hungary.

I thought the movie was a stinker. The work of an angry adolescent mocking the world of grown-ups. I especially was galled at the portrayal of Smiley and Guilliam as triumphant careerists.

I thought the movie was a stinker. The work of an angry adolescent mocking the world of grown-ups. I especially was galled ..."
LOL I had to laugh at your post as I do the same, and Smiley's People, at the moment I am trying to read other Le Carre books and although intriguing I do not get the same satisfaction as I did with Tinker Taylor and Smiley's People, so I take your point.
As for the film, I think it was Le Carre himself who did not want a re-make of the BBC version but a totally different perspective, it did that alright as for periods during the film I was puzzled following the plot as I know the original quite well.

I wonder why no one will make a film of The Honourable Schoolboy. Other than the expense.

I wonder why no one will make a film of The Honourable..."
Actually its an odd story based around the drunken newspaper hound Gerry Westerby escapades in Hong Kong. Gerry had been pillerised by Toby Estahase in Smiley's People but exonerated in this story. The book seemed an infill between Tinker Tailor and Smiley's People as there was no apparent connection with the novels either side. Still an enjoyable read though.



I think there are half a dozen times in which I watched the movie first.



The books are the only way to get the full feeling of these stories, and although the on screen versions are welcome I am reliving the original stories that had me memorised in the first place, I think I may be wary of filmed versions in the future, although The Spy Who Came In From The Cold was a gripping version.

There has been one exception and that was The Name Of the Rose, written by Umberto Eco. I've read the book several times and have seen the movie and I have to admit that I have never seen so many ugly men together in a movie, I could never have made that up in my mind. Not Sean Connery of course :-) but all the other monks.

I dearly love the Karla trilogy. Don't know why exactly. May have to do with it taking place in a time never to return, even though that time was not the best of times. A lot has to do with the Smiley character. I think he is a type who is rapidly disappearing off the face of the Anglo-American earth.



When you work your way through his output in order you will see that in his own way, he is the premier English novelist of the century and gives the reader one of the richest contemporary experiences possible.
Once you get to 'The Spy Who Came in from the Cold'--watch the superb Martin Ritt movie. One of the best book/movie pairings in history.
When you get to 'Tinker, Tailor'--afterwards watch the standout BBC mini-series starring Alec Guinness, Ian Richardson, and Ian Bannen.
Forget about the bogus, recent re-make. Cripes. They can't do it right; you can't trust them. You can't top Alec Guinness. Its totally insulting when they attempt these craven, money-grubbing re-hashes.

I also agree that the recent film with Oldman wasn't great. I much prefer the BBC series even if that dates me. Guinness inhabits Smiley perfectly. You can watch it here if that was before your time.



The main character in Honourable Schoolboy is Gerry Westerby, who has a small but very crucial part to play in Tinker Tailor.
The way he is portrayed very ably in the BBC version is very different from the way he is in Schoolboy. In Tinker Tailor, which precedes Schoolboy, he is much older and more burned out than what he is in Schoolboy, where he's younger.
Anybody have any thoughts?

Good observation, keen eye there. Thanks for posting this!
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I also read The Girl with Dragon Tattoo before watching the movie. Will do same for other movies that are based on books