Mockingjay
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Worst. F**king. Ending. Ever!
I think it was a goood ending. She chose the best for herself. I think it´s also a good ening because it´s different from the other endings. But I have a Little question, why is it Gale´s fault that Prim died?
Clémence wrote: "Am I the only one on this planet that seems to LOVE the last book?Yes.
It comes down to the reader, doesn't it? (Like with every book.) You either love Happy Endings, or you can take or leave 'em. I can't think of anything I've enjoyed where the main character is miserable and disenchanted by their life in the end. I've just stopped watching Game Of thrones because of this-LOVED the show, couldn't stand having my heart broken every three episodes.Life can be sad and hard enough and I use entertainment to escape it.Prim's death would have bothered me more if they'd established more of a connection between the sisters beyond the first book. I didn't cry-I was shocked and angry but not bawling. I was way more upset about Rue.
Actually, I didn't really emotionally connect to anyone in this book, except maybe Finnick. I don't think the author loved her characters enough to make them loveable. People talk about how 'meh' Bella is in Twilight but I think she had twice as much passion as Katniss-for everyone around her and that's why she triumphs-love.
I was very excited by this series (especially the Capitol-how creative!), but underwhelmed by the characters. Gale and Finnick had more personality then any one else and she disposed of them kind of thoughtlessly-probably for shock value. How are people going to take away the message to rise above and dream for better things from this book, when the only ones who seem to cherish their lives-die or turn evil?
I don't know-the set up and the theme in this story are two very different things. I think the inconsistency is what is most agitating. She should have left the love triangle aspect out of it all together because it deflated in the end anyway.
I have no problem with tragic endings, but only when they make sense.A Song of Ice and Fire series is a good example of that. Every death, however heartbreaking, was extremely well written, made sense, and served the plot.
Mockingjay is the opposite. It's just...everything in this book was so rushed, Finnick's death reads like the only point of that was too make everyone cry, Prim wasn't even established as a character and all of a sudden she's used as plot device to destroy Katniss emotionally even more...
Kristina wrote: "I have no problem with tragic endings, but only when they make sense.A Song of Ice and Fire series is a good example of that. Every death, however heartbreaking, was extremely well written, made s..."
Yes yes YES completely agree!
Chloé天赋 Ƨнα∂σωнʋитɛяǤιяℓ ♉ wrote: "@ S.K.I COMPLETELY agree with everything you said! That's soooo true, you pretty much mentioned what I couldn't write without getting annoyed;) lol."
Ha ha...I got all fired up after writing it again.
David wrote: "Excuse my "French" in the title, but I can't describe IN WORDS the emotions I felt after concluding the Hunger Games series with Mocking Jay a couple seconds ago! Why did Gale and Katniss have to l..."Agree with you totally
I haven't read all the comments but I must express my opinion: I didn't like the last book, the whole book, not just the ending - even though the ending was the worst thing for me. As I read along, the book gave me feeling that the story would disappoint and it did. Not for the reasons people usually think so: Prim's death, Katniss and Gale not being friends anymore, Katniss with Peeta, anything like that, even though I'd have some things to say about it all.
The simply fact is: we understood with Katniss through the 3 books the nightmare it was to live in a "totalitary world" where there weren't rights or justice or peace or fairness, and in the end of third book, as a resolution for "who would sit upon the throne and reign now" Suzanne presented us with that ridiculous choice, so forgive me the readers who actually liked the ending, but for ME, it missed the whole point. The war was for NOTHING because most definetely the things would stay the same.
And saying this, and seeing things from this point of view, I say for sure that she should have stopped in the first book, the best one, while she was still winning.
Maya wrote: "My Reactions When I Read the Books:Hunger Games: Oh my lord this is the best book ever to be written. Loved everything about it!OMG I am in love!
Catching Fire: It wasn't as good but most sequel..."
LOL. Totally agree.
David wrote: "Eli wrote: "Reading that first post made me lol. The ending was actually very good. Would you rather have had Katniss die instead of Prim? Would you rather have had Peeta or Gale die? Those are the..."I agree with you. Katniss's death would have made more sense to me.
Gabriela wrote: "David wrote: "Eli wrote: "Reading that first post made me lol. The ending was actually very good. Would you rather have had Katniss die instead of Prim? Would you rather have had Peeta or Gale die?..."
She's the narrator. You can't just kill off the narrator.
She's the narrator. You can't just kill off the narrator.
I hated the ending at first, but I've grown to really like it. I don't think is the type of series that should end with something perfect and happy. The series is about a dystopian universe, pain, suffering, and revolution. It makes sense for the series to end with something that isn't completely satisfying. A perfect happy ending wouldn't have fit at all and it wouldnt have been realistic.
I hated it! I was liking it until the last few chapters, I agree, the last few pages felt rushed and in the end everything was pointless. If Katniss died it would be better and I could accept that, but Prim represented hope so it ruined not just this book but the entire saga for me.
I was so disappointed with this book. I felt like the author was just trying to make a deadline for publishing and had to turn something in in a hurry and didn't take much time in making the actual story line interesting. She wrote down crap and then elaborated on it. I want her to do it over so badly. I love the hunger games and catching fire so much that I am completely willing to just let Collins do a do over for Mocking Jay.
Dierdre wrote: "I was so disappointed with this book. I felt like the author was just trying to make a deadline for publishing and had to turn something in in a hurry and didn't take much time in making the actua..."I'll second that. Come on Suzanne! be a people-pleaser! Lol
the book in nature is a very dark book IS NOT A LOVE STORY, the relationship between peeta and katniss is incidental as well as with gale.there was just too much death and indescribable violence
for the book to end in a good note,the death of pimrose PRECIPITATED THE KILLING OF COIN, that's why she died.
It wouldn't make sense for the book to have a "happy" ending when so many atrocities were committed, personally, I absolutely loved the ending.the epilogue reminds us the fighting spirit of katniss an peetas god heart, reflected on their kids showing the author's attempt to a good ending without "staining' the dark nature of the book "my children, who don't know they play on graveyard
Nuria wrote: "Mightymoose wrote: "Its sad to see how many people miss the point. It doesn't bode well for our future."but the part of the book that for me explains better the fact that human beeing have no hop..."
Nuria wrote: "Mightymoose wrote: "Its sad to see how many people miss the point. It doesn't bode well for our future."
but the part of the book that for me explains better the fact that human beeing have no hop..."
I think KATNISS votes "yes" because it was her strategy, to kill coin
She was absolutely outraged with the "new" hunger games that's why she
Says "yes, for primrose" because she already had planned to avenge
Her sister. Also the "new" hunger games was part of the reason she killed Coin
Here's my thing with the ending:1) I don't see why Finnick needed to die. I get it. It's a story about war. But it's still a story and no loved character should die for no reason.
2) Prim's death. I can see how it gave Gale a way to leave, but still not needed because...
3) Gale didn't need to leave on such a bad note. He was so important to the story and to say he just left because of Prim? No. Prim didn't need to die as a plot twist.
4) The language of the ending. An ending is where everything comes together and is satisfying. War story. I get it, but still. If Katniss is going to end up with Peeta, at least make it seem like she really wants him. Or at least loves her children.
5) i felt like no one was left at the end. Just depressed Peeta and Katniss. All alone in their village. That's what it felt like.
This was an epic series and it should've ended in an epic way. It failed.
Dear God, i hope they change something in the movie
Leah wrote: "Here's my thing with the ending:1) I don't see why Finnick needed to die. I get it. It's a story about war. But it's still a story and no loved character should die for no reason.
2) Prim's dea..."
I totally get why you disliked the ending, but i dont think the ending is a place where things should 'come together and be satisfying' Books wouldn't be fun to read if they all had happy or satisfying endings. I think the somewhat unhappy and unsatisyfying ending makes a point about the unhappy, unfortunate world they live in. In a place like that do people ever have happy endings?
Jack wrote: "Leah wrote: "Here's my thing with the ending:1) I don't see why Finnick needed to die. I get it. It's a story about war. But it's still a story and no loved character should die for no reason.
..."
I think she meant she needed a satisfying ending in a way when all the loose ends are tied up and things make sense, which sadly Mockingjay failed to do.
David wrote: "Excuse my "French" in the title, but I can't describe IN WORDS the emotions I felt after concluding the Hunger Games series with Mocking Jay a couple seconds ago! Why did Gale and Katniss have to l..."The ending of the book was good. Why must everything end on a happy note?
Mockingjay is actually my favorite in the trilogy, actually. It's a war novel. The other two are not up to its standard.
I agree with Richard! Everyone think this is a love story and the actual events are incidental, well let me tell you this is a dark sociological book, THE LOVE STORY is incidental. No offense but I see a pattern of "girls not liking the ending and guys being ok with it"
It speaks of the mindset with which you start reading the book. Girls are looking for a love story, guys read it Ina different way.
My dislike of this book and ending had nothing to do with the "love story" (I would even argue that this book wasn't a love story at all). What I found so disappointing and frustrating was the author's laziness. It was the story telling that was a problem in this book. Collins cut corners, dropped her character development, rushed the ending and in general didn't treat her own work with respect and half-a--ed it. You hear a lot about "realism" when it comes to this book and people say she wrote it to be more "realistic". And that somehow is suppose to cover up or make up for the storytelling problems throughout the novel. However, Collins writing was weak, hardly worth publication. And her version of "realism" skewed to the point of being unrealistic. The world she created was extremely unrealistic (I mean, really, Katniss' desperate rush to get to the capital with her CAMERA men was like reading a play-by-play of a fantastical video game scene). Furthermore, though good people die suddenly and violently during war (i.e. Finn or Prim) there is still an emotional reaction and story behind it for those who were there and those who cared for those people (this of course ignores the whole issue of why Prim was even there in the first place, which doesn't make sense, and we all know Collins placed her there just to make yet another in-your-face point, which is just more laziness on her part). Collins ignores many realities in order to push her own agenda. I personally wasn't looking for or expecting a "happy" ending filled with unicorns and beds of roses. I WAS expecting a work of literature that respects the art and values its own story and characters. And I certainly wasn't expecting the author to plod along and cop out of actually writing her story or to do her world and her characters such a disservice.
And on an end note, lol, the ending of this trilogy should have had Katniss living alone in her woods. At the very least, it would have been more fitting to her character and maybe then she would have been happier knowing she had saved her woods instead of just feeling apathetic that she had helped save her own children from the Hunger Games.
I thought the ending was perfect and enjoyed the whole series, beginning to end. The series was mostly about war, and Prim had to die because she represented innocence. War kills innocence. I also enjoyed the love stories in the series, and I felt like it was appropriate that Katniss ended up with Peeta in the end. She had found peace, and he was the peaceful lover. The choices Katniss made created a better world for her offspring (and everyone else's). What greater mission does one have in life than this?I don't think Collins failed by making her symbolism too simple, or "in your face." Obviously, many still didn't grasp it, and remember it was written for a young audience. I believe she succeeded in teaching about the danger of allowing our government too much power and also the cost of peace.
David wrote: "Excuse my "French" in the title, but I can't describe IN WORDS the emotions I felt after concluding the Hunger Games series with Mocking Jay a couple seconds ago! Why did Gale and Katniss have to l..."David, I know how you feel. I get deeply involved in my books as well. The series A Song of Ice and Fire as been brutal emotionally. And I agree that Collins really blew the ending in Mockingjay. It was very weak.
Lindsey wrote: "I think it was a nice break from cookie cutter endings where everyone ends up happy and the girl has to make a heart-breaking decision between her two beaus. Boo-hoo."Exactly. I cannot understand why she was torn in the first place. Gale is little more than a piece of plywood with a voice.
I thought the third book wrapped everything up just fine. It was not a "Hollywood" ending and I liked that. She ended up with the guy I thought she should end up with and they both seemed happy... So, I like all three books.
the ending is just really lazy, the first book was grea, the second was good, and the third was just crap.
Richard wrote: "Mockingjay is actually my favorite in the trilogy, actually. It's a war novel. The other two are not up to its standard."Calling Mockingjay a war novel is like calling Friday the 13th a film about camping. Katniss got reduced to a whimpering little girl who constantly couldn't handle anything. She didn't grow, she devolved. The book didn't have to end on a happy note. It needed to end logically and without contrivances. And again, for the 50 millionth time, if you're going to tell a war story, don't tell it from the POV of a protagonist whose in shock or drugged up or knocked out most of the time.
If you want a book that better handles the horrors of war, read the diary of Anne Frank. That is a better account of how war fucks with people's lives than this book is.
i think the ending was very sad, i felt very bad after reading the book. Because i excepted that the whole world will know how evil was coin, the real reason why katniss killed her, but katniss got free because her doctor said she was crazy. She will be remembered as the "rebel who got crazy and killed an ally" and not the "savior of panem!", and i was really angry about it.But at least i am relieved that she and peeta stayed together, and i agree that gale is not for her. Gale was full of hatred as she said. He lost his personality on the way to defeat the capitol which is sad too.
The whole story was sad because Katniss did not want to do any of this! she didn't want to be in the hunger games, and she did not want to join the rebellion. She was trapped between two evils: Snow and coin and felt despair. usually in books, the main character has determination. He has a clear impossible mission but here all that katniss wants is to live peacfully. The part she wanted to make a suicide was hard too.
Oh Lord, this isn't Twilight people. I completely agree that Prim is the catalyst for the entire saga - Katniss goes to the Hunger Games in her place; Katniss battles on so that there is a better future for Prim & she ends Coin because Prim dies. Prim is a heroine - a stubborn, self-sacrificing heroine and all books need these. Furthermore, Gale was a bit of a dick. Peeta is not. I am glad that there wasn't any more confusion for Katniss as in my opinion, Peeta was the right choice.
These books are for older children. They are dark and sad. But life and the real world is dark and sad. Just look at Syria. Sadly there's no Katniss to do something about that.
Olivia wrote: "Oh Lord, this isn't Twilight people. I completely agree that Prim is the catalyst for the entire saga - Katniss goes to the Hunger Games in her place; Katniss battles on so that there is a better f..."i guess we live in a dystopian world. that's why i like so much this genere because it is realistic.
Katniss was not the hero that fights for justice, since the begining she just wanted a peacfull life with her family, but life made her things she didnt want do and i think she suffered too much.
The epilogue blew the entire series. The books were great. Until the epilogue.
I feel like Collins wanted to portray the reality of war and in the outcome of war, people will die no matter who they are. Yes, this is a fictional book but it is also written by someone whose interested in such a topic. I personally do not think it is one of the worst endings ever either.
Hmmm. I was gut wrenchingly sad, depressed, annoyed, frustrated at different points in the book. But I was also happy, touched, reconciled,excited and enthused. It was a good blend. By the end I felt ...strange. I felt just like you initially, but then as I went through my grief and landed on acceptance..I felt a peace. -_- god I sound so pretentious. Anyway, while I did go through a rush of blood lust, when the fog cleared up, ..I was nt ok with it, but without its flaws it would nt be what it is. It portrayed its message perfectly scathed. Written beautifully , in its own crass way. Besides, it's not like that's where the story ends,I'm pretty sure gale and she salvage some of their friendship back eventually.
I didn't like the ending, but I understand why Collins did it that way. What I didn't like was how rushed the ending felt. We get through a whole series and then you see how fast you can finish it off? I also didn't like how fast characters got thrown away. We're running and so-and-so just died, but who cares? Lets not even think of them the rest of the book. Oh look there goes another one. I understand Katniss had seen a lot of death at this point, but still, I would have liked to acknowledged more than they died. Right after I read the ending I absolutely hated it, but later I found I could tolerate it, but not like it.
I was disappointed in the ending. I really didn't feel like I knew why Katnis was doing what she was doing, and I didn't get a sense that I understood the world after the rebellion. I wanted to know more about the new set up of Panam, and how it fits in the world. Well I should have known that I wouldn't get that since the Panam world view was completely left out. Anyway, blah ending to a great series.
I have to say I though this was the worst book out of the series. I have read some bad books. Try reading everneath or little women
I was satisfied with the ending Mockingjay was amazingI loved it I gave it 4 out of stars although it wasn't the best in the series I think it rapped things up very well.
Mockingjay is my least favorite boom in the entire series. I was especially mad at the ending. It left too many unanswered questions. For example towards the end everyone was voting if they wanted a Hunger Games with Capitol children. It was voted yes and never mentioned at the end. Then Gale just suddenly leaves. I have no problems with no happy ending or characters dying however I feel it left to many unanswered questions.
Hated the ending way too much... Katniss marrying Peeta was really annoying. Wish she ended up single. I always thought being in love wasn't her thing. Too many loose strings in the end like the pearl Peeta gave, what happened in the districts, Gale. Its like Collins ended the series in a hurry.
Well,i think that everything had a certain explanation to why it happened.I didn't enjoy the ending either,however, i think that the lack of emotion and passion in Katniss's actions were a result of what she had seen in the Games. She has taken part twice and she is sick about it.She is tired.She can't stand it.And she kills Coin because she doesn't want to be manipulated...i don't know.. that's what i think..
What really annoyed me the most in Mockingjay are as follows:1.) We didn't have a whole chapter to enjoy Snow's death. Just a few details and a dramatic "my sister has been avenged" speech. Come on, why didn't we torture him? Is it just me? Did he not deserve it?
2.) Finnick's death. Come ON. You built up this character that we all fell in love with (for multiple reasons) and then his death happened solely and only because he couldn't GET AWAY FAST ENOUGH. I mean, are you TRYING to make us hate you, Suzanne?
3.) I actually enjoyed Prim's death. Am I the only one? She didn't DO anything. Nothing! And then Katniss is all sad and boo-boo and I'm here like "Uh-huh! Oh yeah!" I was quite happy when she died, Bob. Quite-- happy.
I didn't like the book but it wasn't because Prim died. She wasn't a character that I connected with. What bothered me was the "mission" Katniss was on. It is really unbelievable that the soldiers actually thought she would be able to kill Snow. The whole mission was stupid and it really irritated me that Finnick died in it because Katniss had the delusion to think that she would get close enough to kill Snow. Finnick's death did upset me but not Prim.
As for Gale and Peeta, I hoped that she would pick Peeta but I am surprised that Peeta would still want her.
The only problem I found with the ending was that it felt rushed. I won't even begin with how much it differed from how I wanted it to end, but it was a fairly good ending.
GALE AMD KATNISS WERE PERFECT, WHY DID SHE MARRY PEEPEE PEETA
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(ok, some deaths were a bit stupid but, it was all part of the plot, or the story wouldn't have worked out. -.-)