Mockingjay
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Worst. F**king. Ending. Ever!
David wrote: "I'm a hater and I don't appreciate amazing books.">:(
Lindsey wrote: "I think it was a nice break from cookie cutter endings where everyone ends up happy and the girl has to make a heart-breaking decision between her two beaus. Boo-hoo."true that!
I closed the book in anger, and swore of young adult fiction for a while. It made me quite angry as well.
Camille wrote: "I closed the book in anger, and swore of young adult fiction for a while. It made me quite angry as well."
SAME!!!!
SAME!!!!
Neesh_satsumaXD wrote: "Camille wrote: "I closed the book in anger, and swore of young adult fiction for a while. It made me quite angry as well."SAME!!!!"
I mean, I wasn`t that exited about reading the first one either, I`m not a YA fic kinda girl, but when my teacher said it was a lifechanger, I read it...and I wanted to see how the series ended, so of course, I checked out 2 and 3 from my local library...ugh what a waste of time. I should have just read the spoilers on wiki or something...wouldn`t have wasted my time.
Camille wrote: "Neesh_satsumaXD wrote: "Camille wrote: "I closed the book in anger, and swore of young adult fiction for a while. It made me quite angry as well."
SAME!!!!"
I mean, I wasn`t that exited about rea..."
i feel exactly the same way, but the second but was better that ok, but not as good as i wanted it to be, just because the first book was soo good.
SAME!!!!"
I mean, I wasn`t that exited about rea..."
i feel exactly the same way, but the second but was better that ok, but not as good as i wanted it to be, just because the first book was soo good.
Yeah, I liked the first one, than it got to be very coincidental is the word maybe? I don`t know...It just seemed a little...predictable.
Keith wrote: "I think you have to look at the books in the context for which they are written.Prim death: It is important to point out that these characters do not exist in our realm but in a future existence..."
Hi Keith, I like your point about the context, children there are brought up to be part of the working class very early. Plus, Katniss's mother hasn't proved herself to be very maternal in the first place since she collapsed after her husband's death and never regained her position as a parent who must take care of her family.
I have to disagree about Gale though. Of course he believed that the people of the Capitol that were trying to fight the rebellion should be killed (that is war after all) but he also said that he suffered when he saw children from 12 burn to death. He also did agree to work with Plutarch which means he wasn't totally against the people of the Capitol. Even when he questioned why Katniss cared about her prep team, he tried to keep in mind that her prep team did care about her and thus, view them as something other than the heartless Capitols he thought they were. So I don't think that Gale is like Snow, a ruthless person who is willing to allow children to suffer.
i loved the ending but wish there were more in the series.
I thought the ending was just okay. Nothing horrible but nothing spectacular either. I was happy it wasn't a; "and Katniss, Peeta and Gale all live happily ever after in a thriving District 12" type ending.
Well, this is the real life and in real life, you dont have happily ever afters! what did you expect? they assasinate snow, coin becomes the ruler and everything's back to normal?! the whole point of the book was to show how the POWER of the capitol and what it could DO! Kat wasn't the only one who lost a family member. Hundreds, thousands of lives were lost during that one single battle against freedom and we realize the IMPORTANCE of their NEED to win. They all put aside their LIVES for destroying the Capitol. So after everything got over, it was OBVIOUSLY not peaches and roses for katniss and the whole crew! i mean, look what she's been through! in the end, she does end up with a family of two kids and Peeta somewhat goes back to normal. What else can we hope for? honestly after all thats happened with them, that was the best they could recover. So yeah, even if the ending wasnt all happily ever after, it was realistic! it was PERFECT! the people of Panem got their freedom and they won it themselves and fought for it!
Chin123 wrote: "This book was so boring, I quit reading it! BEST THING I EVER DID!!!!!!!!
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:P alright i did that in the beginning too! got bored after the whole district 13 thing but i got back to it after 8 months or something and decided to give the book one last chance and guess what? i finished the whole thing in one sitting! this is one ending you wouldnt wanna miss! trust me on this one:)
I thought Suzanne ended Mockingjay brilliantly, if Prim wouldn't have died she would have probably had to write a fourth book in order to conclude the entire series. Some people don't agree with the ending because they didn't want it to end like that. If they had their way, everybody would be happy. And nowadays, who likes cliche endings?willysbookreviews.blogspot.com
I think it's fair enough that Prim died, and can see the reasoning. Not that thrilled she ended Up with peeta, i was gunning for gale! But i did like the 'real or not real' thing she had with peeta. But considering Snow was the main adversary throughout the entire trilogy and she didn't even witness him die, let alone cause it. I found that odd, and that they found him and didn't even know if he choked or was trampled! Odd odd odd.
but yeah i guess after everything Peeta went through for her, he deserved a happy ending more than anyone.
It's true. Peeta was the best. Such a kind hearted guy
but yeah Gale shouldnt have just disappeared. he should've at least said goodbye!
Sara wrote: "I had no idea what she was doing with the end of the book!WTH! OK I can deal with nearly all of Katniss's little 'star' squad dying as the get to the capital (I was sooooo sad when Finnick died!) ..."
but how can you expect katniss to be the same!! pretend like it never happened! Didnt you see how many lives were lost?! the death of her own sister? how she almost lost Peeta again and not to mention the guilt. She CHANGED. Thats what happens in real life! Things like that wont just go away..they become a part of you just like how the hunger games, the whole battle became a part of her. It practically sucked the life out of her and even though they won, she was broken and we know that Peeta is still there to fix that. And as for Gale, well yeah he shouldnt have just left but i guess that was best for him. You think he could've handled another goodbye?!
I loved the ending, but I think it was kinda rushed at the end, she just said that they grew back together and then "Real or Not Real".
Pauline wrote: "I loved the ending, but I think it was kinda rushed at the end, she just said that they grew back together and then "Real or Not Real"."SOMEONE understands
Geetanjali wrote: "but yeah Gale shouldnt have just disappeared. he should've at least said goodbye!"That's true :/ but it's normal that they parted in such a manner, if you think about it. Afterall, Kat blamed him for her sister's death
I feel like this is the point of this book. I feel like Suzanne Collins wanted people to finish Mockingjay and think, wow, this is war. War doesn't mean kill all the bad guys or only the people involved in the book. In war, even the innocent die, which I think is one of the terrifying things that Suzanne Collins captured in the ending of Mockingjay beautifully.
I think it ended wonderfuly. Prim died so Katness could see she couldn't be with Gayle.Because it wouldn't have seemed real if there where not many major deaths.
It gave cause to her killing Coin also.
If she had not died none of those things could have happend that way.
And Katness could never get over that it was by Gale that prim died. I don't think they ended things hating each other but they just grew apart.
Emily wrote"I think it ended wonderfuly. Prim died so Katness could see she couldn't be with Gayle. So what your saying is that Prim solely died, so that she didn't marry her best friend? Are you kidding me? Prim wasn't just another faceless child, a pawn of the games. She was a major character. Everything Katniss did, she did for Prim. In the first book, about to be killed, all Katniss could think about was if Prim was watching. Prim did not die for a love triangle. And if that is the reason why she died, Collins has no creativity and just got sick off writing and gave up.
Brittany wrote: " Emily wrote"I think it ended wonderfuly. Prim died so Katness could see she couldn't be with Gayle. So what your saying is that Prim solely died, so that she didn't marry her best friend? Are yo..."
Prim was killed by Coin! And the irony is that the entire story begins with Katniss volunteeing for the hunger games to protect Prim but she ultimately ends up dead at the ending while Katniss survives!
I think Prim dying and Gale's departure showed Katniss Gale could never be the one for her. He gave up on her too easily and didn't even try to make amends
Lol i was so happy to see this discussion title ... Finished reading this book a couple weeks ago and jesus! I mean i loved the fact that peeta and katniss had kids and lived happily ever after or whatever, but wtf! To me the whole third book was just so rushed, I dunnno thats the downside to most trilogy's the third book just doesn't usually live up to the rest.
I felt like the build up just wasn't worth the ending at all ...
Sachelle wrote: "Lol i was so happy to see this discussion title ... Finished reading this book a couple weeks ago and jesus! I mean i loved the fact that peeta and katniss had kids and lived happily ever after or ..."yes, I agree it was a bit rushed,but it was an okay ending still
Susana wrote: "Sachelle wrote: "Lol i was so happy to see this discussion title ... Finished reading this book a couple weeks ago and jesus! I mean i loved the fact that peeta and katniss had kids and lived happi..."yeah, it was an 'ok' ending for an incredible book/series
The ending for Mockingjay was perfect for the story that preceeded it. It may have been sad, and emotional, (I cried buckets when Prim died) but it's an ending I'll never forget because it was so wonderful.
Michael wrote: "I agree completely. I loved Hunger Games, thought Catching Fire was a decent sequel, and felt Mockingjay was a total mess.I feel stongly that YA novels, however dark their plots, should end on a..."
I whole heartedly agree with you. The first book was by far the best of this series, the second was an okay sequel, but the third was so sloppy to me. It started off kinda of dry and then your thrown around alot with the bounce between characters. I hate the way Gale was written out of the story, because I feel it would have better been serve that they come to a mutual understanding that was prevalent throughout the rest of the series. Prim death????????????
Peeta's character was so annoying to me after he got back. I liked Finnick most of all the men in Katniss's life. All in all it wasn't that bad of series, but I wouldn't be mad at some ad libe in the upcoming films.
Nichole wrote: "Michael wrote: "I agree completely. I loved Hunger Games, thought Catching Fire was a decent sequel, and felt Mockingjay was a total mess.I feel stongly that YA novels, however dark their plots, ..."
I completely agree with you on that one ... I was a great lover of peeta and i mean i still am but after being released from president slush (snow) i lost a certain amount of love for his character, he wasn't the peeta katniss fell in love with, the peeta I fell in love with and i mean he never really returned for me *sigh*
But Peeta changed back to the person he once was, if you think about it.
Susana wrote: "But Peeta changed back to the person he once was, if you think about it."He didn't they were both ultimately changed by their hunger game experience, hence the reason Katniss didn't end up with Gale.
Emily Rose wrote: "i personally think that collins was high when she wrote this. she made the ending so terrible i honestly threw the book across the room from my frustration
Emily District 12"
LOL!!!!!!!!!! and true dat!!!!!
Emily District 12"
LOL!!!!!!!!!! and true dat!!!!!
I didn't like the ending... I am below drinking age, and I thought it was HORRIBLE!!!! I loved the 1st book, I found the second one okay, but it went down hill from there. Did Katniss even like Peeta? I know she supposedly 'came to love him' but when did she stop pretending to love him and actually love him? I also didn't like how Prim died. I know it was big on Collins' part, but I didn't like it. I found it weird because the whole reason for the series was Prim ,who ended up dying in the end any way.
Nichole wrote: "Susana wrote: "But Peeta changed back to the person he once was, if you think about it."He didn't they were both ultimately changed by their hunger game experience, hence the reason Katniss didn'..."
He changed back to the man who loved katniss, his brainwashed stage ended. of course, they both changed due to their experience, but that's what made them being together make sense. Gale could never understand what Katniss went through.
Let's be realistic here:The book starts with Katniss in a District 13 which "doesn't exist" (*wink wink nudge*), a "plot twist" that was just about telegraphed from book 1, page 1.
She's basically stuck underground in a district that the Capitol won't mess with because "OH **** THEY HAVE NUKES!1!" but still has to hide because the Capitol MIGHT mess with them.
They want Katniss to lead the revolution as a propaganda tool, but they want to martyr her at the same time.
Peeta comes back to them after a brainwashing so thorough that it makes Cascade's sheeting action look weak... but they STILL send him off into combat with their Special Forces in what we assume is a key position because "Hey, we need... *drop to ominous whisper* DRAMATIC TENSION."
They are chosen for this mission, by the way, because the defenses of the city were designed by the same hipsters that put on the Hunger Games (because conventional defenses were apparently too "mainstream"... and might actually have been effective at something other than killing their own people).
Despite WINNING said revolution, 13 still feels that it's necessary to use a vile tactic that they conveniently let Katniss see (*wink wink nudge*) and slaughter innocent civilians, including Prim, the catalyst for everything Katniss has done.
After ALL of that wrongness... plot holes large enough to steer the Death Star through... people are complaining that the ENDING was bad?!? Unreal.
Brittany wrote: " Emily wrote"I think it ended wonderfuly. Prim died so Katness could see she couldn't be with Gayle. So what your saying is that Prim solely died, so that she didn't marry her best friend? Are yo..."
No I just think Collins wrote it that was so it would give readers a solid reason for why Katness and Gale could never be together.
Katness first did everything for Prim but after a while it became so much more important than doing it for only Prim.
I also think if everyone had made it alive and everything was pretty and happy it wouldn't have felt real because that doesn't always happen in real life.
FISH FROGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
David wrote: "Excuse my "French" in the title, but I can't describe IN WORDS the emotions I felt after concluding the Hunger Games series with Mocking Jay a couple seconds ago! Why did Gale and Katniss have to l..."Completely agreed! I was shocked into silence for 3 minutes and then went off on a furious rant. You don't want to get me started again...
oh all of you. lifes a dissapiontment sometimes get over it. almost all endings in books suck
Ultra wrote: "oh all of you. lifes a dissapiontment sometimes get over it. almost all endings in books suck"Right on!!!!!!!!
no, it's not. But I think it is the least great book in the trilogy.
Maybe readers aren't just used to this kind of ending that's why they're disappointed.
I'm ticked off that they didn't end up with Gale and Coin dead... I know Coin died but Gale bailed on Katniss WTF!!!???
I wanted to shoot something after reading that book. I felt it was a complete disappointment to all the fans of the hunger games from the beginning. I am a gale fan so the fact that she chooses Peeta didn't really help my case. But even then I felt like it was rushed. I just feel like it didn't do justice to those who followed the story from the very beginning.
Lindsey wrote: "I think it was a nice break from cookie cutter endings where everyone ends up happy and the girl has to make a heart-breaking decision between her two beaus. Boo-hoo."
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Prim death: It is important to point out that these characters do not exist in our realm but in a future existence..."
Very well pointed out Keith.
The only point I would disagree with is the similarity between Gale and Snow. Yes, Gale is also ok with the idea of human sacrifices during a war, but to say he was happy with the Hunger Games idea or even with killing children, is a bit of an extreme. Had he been the same as Snow or Coin, Katniss would have left him long time ago.
I also think in the end katniss does make a choice regarding who she lets in her life. Had Peeta not returned she would have become a total wreck. Also I am not sure that if Gale was the one returning, that she could have managed to return to herself. So as the Gale put it, she does choose the one she needed to survive. It's the same as with the bread, Peeta brings hope. He doesn't solve her problems but gives her strenght to solve them herself.
And regarding the fact that Prim is joining the war, let's not forget that from the Tv Prim might have known that her sister is dead so she might have been more motivated to do her part as well. That's how probably she convinced Coin to make an exception for her. The reason why we don't know more about how everything happened is because Katniss doesn't know it herself and later she becomes too broken to care.