Fifty Shades of Grey
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How old should someone be to read this book?
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Indeed. And it really isn't about BDSM so it's not shocking. It's about a man who was into BDSM who starts a relationship with ... Ana ... who teaches him *apparently* that vanilla is okay too. If at 14/15 you don't know the basics of vanilla then sex education in schools/your family has failed you, not this book.

My 15 year old daughter told me one of her friends is reading it and asked what I thought of it. I said it was an awful read and could be quite damaging for a young girl to read. There are so many amazing books to read. Why bother with trash?


It is now being taught as classic literature is some schools, and I am sure it doesnt raise so many eyebrows now!
Although I'm not saying FSOG is classic literature, I do think that it is down to the individual. Some may find it explicit and others may not.



The real world isn't about controlling, abusive, and BDSM relationships. It also isn't about shitty grammar. That's what education is for. Anna wasn't raped, she was just too naive and insecure to see past Christian's controlling and manipulative behavior.

Quick question for you miss, have you read all three books? Because in all three books there is more than a controlling, abusive, BDSM relationship. And if you haven't; Please do not attack me with such-such uneducated thoughts. Thank you.


I'm not attacking you at all & I have read all three books. If they're not about a controlling, abusive, sometimes BDSM relationship, then what exactly is it about? Because that's what I mostly got out of it, along with really shitty grammar. They are show nothing of what the real world is about. But then again...at age 13 do you know what the "real world's" really about?!

It shows nothing what the real world is about? And at age 13, I know a lot about the real world. BDSM is a way of life and if you dislike the way it works; Why'd you keep reading? You saw what the first book was about. You're not helping your case at all. Did you not see how she changed him? It shows that there is good in everyone. And please, I would love to see you have the courage to write a story. I will be the first to pick up a copy.


Lucky for you I won't be writing any books in this lifetime. I have nothing against the BDSM lifestyle, the problem is that FSoG did not accurately depict those who are into the lifestyle (I'm not, just saying). When I did SKIM the other two books, Christian still seemed like the same emotionally dominating man. If your "real world" includes a man who tells you what/when to eat, someone you are sexually dependent upon, 15 orgasms a day *rolls eyes*, stalks you, and dominates your life then kudos to you young grasshopper.

Ahh, the act of skimming. Well if you had taken the time to READ the book; You would see how much he had changed. And no my real world is not that. And I never said it was. You obviously. cannot see my point here; So I am done try, good day

I get what you are saying, but in all honesty, people don't change who they are just because they may love or really like you and want to keep you. I thought that I could change someone I truly loved up until my 22nd birthday when I realized nothing I did would make him change the way he treated me or was. I moved on, and he is still the exact same person he was the day I dumped him. This story is a work of fiction. It is a lovely idea that a man will change for the woman he loves, but its just that an idea. If you date a guy who tries to control you, he will always do so. The difference between this story and a controlling guy, is that there was a contract involved here. She didn't have to stay or sign(which she never did), but she decided it was exciting and of course she loved him. I think that is the point people were trying to make about needing to know what life is like in the "real world." At 13 your real world is different than it will be at 23, or even 33. I know that sounds super condescending, and I don't mean it to be. I just am unsure how to state it another way.

I get what you are saying, but in all honesty, people don't change who they are just because they may love or really like you and want to keep you. I thought that I could change someone I t..."
He did not change because of Ana. He had an epiphany when he thought Ana might be pregnant. He was able to understand that the seduction/abuse by his older neighbor was in fact child abuse and not a consensual relationship. Only when he could see that he had been used as a child and projected this onto a future child of his was he able to really confront his problems.


After all, if you're reading a book, you're pretty occupied as it is, right?

I worry that if younger children read it, they may think that a controlling, insane, abusive relationship, where tampon pulling and punishments for infractions, is an acceptable relationship.
This book glamorizes a man beating the shit out of a woman for things like, biting her lip, not finishing her dinner, meeting up with friends, etc... That is not healthy, and it is not okay.
Young girls should be exposed to healthier examples, and young men should know that this is unacceptable.


I wo..."
Well, this is new... the majority of the BDSM community has been very vocal about their disagreement of BDSM portrayal in these books.
And, I didn't come up with, "Beat the shit out of." It is in the book... I was quoting the books.

Context is everything. I have told my husband on numerous times that I wanted to beat the shit out of him. For example once he scared me half to death by hiding in the closet after I had seen a scary movie. I told him I ought to beat the shit out of him for that.

Context is everything. I have told my husband on numerous times that I wanted to b..."
You're right... context IS everything... In the book, Christian is being absolutely serious. He is not making a flip remark, he is not saying it ironically. He wants to beat her... to hurt her, as punishment. He is not laughing, he is not kidding.
And, it is wrong. Attitudes like that lead to societies that abuse women. Punishing your spouse with a spanking isn't right. Threatening your spouse with violence in an effort to control them is not right.


I hope you understand that I'm talking about what I read in the books.... not your personal lifestyle choice.


...and perception is also everything. I did not see it the way you did. I saw it as him being angry because he was worried. Saying you are going to beat the shit out of someone is very different from beating the shit out of someone. He did NOT follow through on that comment.

I think it should be read by older adults who have a better gasp on what a relationship is. I enjoyed the book. It is truly entertaining, as a book should be. But the mature underlinings such as physical abuse in a relationship, emotional entrapment and using sex as a way to express love simply is too much for someone who was never in a healthy relationship.

and some people say ohhh its waaayyyy to old, it has sex in and BDSM and stuff, Personally I think its no big deal, my 11 year old sister is reading it, she says its no biggy. Shes knew about it for a long time and she says its fine, im not reading it though

a bolder work than sidney sheldon and by the way i was just 13 when i read fifty shades and my first erotica novel was "the other side of midnight" by sidney sheldon.i was twelve that time and i almost reached for my biology book in my shelf to check out some meanings.not that i am a pro at all these stuffs!!!

I believe this books is not suitable for any one under the age of 18!!!!

An 11 yr old reading it unsupervised and saying "no biggie" to some of it's content potentially is a problem depending on where their head is at.






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