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S&L Video - #02 - The Magicians Wrap-Up and Interview with Saladin Ahmed!

Yay for group member reviews of books!
Much better than the first episode. More relaxed and fun :)
Extended interview with Saladin coming by chance?
Extended interview with Saladin coming by chance?

Thanks for making my Friday better

Please let me know if my expectations were set incorrectly and if they should be reset.
Thanks and I look forward to the next podcast which, I'm hoping based on the first comment of this thread, will have an interview with Lev Grossman.
Dylan Northrup wrote: "Out of curiosity, will there be a wrap-up episode of the podcast for "The Magicians" as well for those of us who aren't watching the show? I know there was some pre-wrap up discussion for "The Mag..."
I think we're probably done talking about The Magicians overall.
I think we're probably done talking about The Magicians overall.
Ala wrote: "Much better than the first episode. More relaxed and fun :)
Extended interview with Saladin coming by chance?"
Yes, next Thursday!
Extended interview with Saladin coming by chance?"
Yes, next Thursday!
Sweet.
Thanks for asking my question, btw. I've read NK Jemisin already(thanks to S&L) but I'll definitely give the others he mentioned a shot.
Thanks for asking my question, btw. I've read NK Jemisin already(thanks to S&L) but I'll definitely give the others he mentioned a shot.

Veronica wrote: "Dylan Northrup wrote: "Out of curiosity, will there be a wrap-up episode of the podcast for "The Magicians" as well for those of us who aren't watching the show? I know there was some pre-wrap up ..."
ALthough I suppose the audio deserves a proper wrap-up, I'm not sure what else to say that we didn't say ont he last audio episode, except spoilers.... V and I will talk.
ALthough I suppose the audio deserves a proper wrap-up, I'm not sure what else to say that we didn't say ont he last audio episode, except spoilers.... V and I will talk.

Yeah, didn't we say that?"
"Charles from the Philippines." I guess that's him (blogger for Sfsignal).

Oh and I wish I could fit that much junk into my man cave! Not that it was junk... I'm just saying... I need a bigger man cave *cough*, anywho.



C'mon, now. Who's got this one?

The technical points from the first episode were solved, the interview was interesting and the discussion of the Magicians, really made me want to read the book.
And my nickname does mean procrastinator, so top marks for Tom on that and top marks for Veronica's pronunciation, even though I'm Portuguese and not Spanish, it sounds almost the same eheh Now you guys just have to taste some Portuguese wine, which is among the best in the world :P
Thanks for reading my topic and to everyone who replied, cause there were lots of interesting information and opinions.
André
Tamahome wrote: "Veronica wrote: "Tamahome wrote: "Was that Charles Tan in the video?"
Yeah, didn't we say that?"
"Charles from the Philippines." I guess that's him (blogger for Sfsignal)."
Oh! I didn't put that together. Darb it. I would have given them a plug.
EDIT Darb? .... I kinda like that typo. Darb it!
Yeah, didn't we say that?"
"Charles from the Philippines." I guess that's him (blogger for Sfsignal)."
Oh! I didn't put that together. Darb it. I would have given them a plug.
EDIT Darb? .... I kinda like that typo. Darb it!

C'mon, now. Who's got this one?"
What, you're not going to jump on it?
Tamahome wrote: "I bet he says that to all the ladies."
I might start, just to see where that rabbit hole leads.


I'm already looking forward to the next one.

No worries :) I call myself a Bibliophile Stalker, so I need to preserve my anonymity... :P
Thanks for the video!

It's going to be interesting though how your book discussions are going to evolve. Since I listened to the previous podcast, you did repeat some points you mentioned there. Which, I think, is what the video watchers is looking for (not everyone listens/watches both your shows).

Regarding The Magicians . . .
Veronica is right, at the end of the story, Q is still a D-bag. I also, would rather have the story from Alice's perspective. I felt she had more substance as a character.
For the record, I did not like the book and it was NOT because I wanted a happy ending. Half way through the book I thought the only thing that would save the book would be for a great tragic end to Quentin. I just felt that any action to the book was anti-climactic and I did not care about the characters. I hang with goth/emo people in real life that have better personalities.
It is a shame, I was a huge Narnia fan growing up and I wanted to like this book. Oh well, if every book that we read was great, then we would have no reason to appreciate those that are truly wonderful.
Looking forward to the next book!

This show is just great, the best part of geek & sundry.


Bram wrote: "A small suggestion, it would be nice to include a link in the youtube show to skip the review of the book your are discussing. I had to search manually for the calendar where the review ends. I di..."
We actually asked to have this put into the show as an annotation, but I guess they didn't have time to do it.
We actually asked to have this put into the show as an annotation, but I guess they didn't have time to do it.
Nate wrote: "Tom, loved that you picked my 'This day in alternate history' "research". I feel like I could write a million of those things, if enough stuff happened on the days.
This show is just great, the be..."
Thanks Nate and thanks for the alternate history research. I know how hard it is to find reliable sources on universes that don't exist.
This show is just great, the be..."
Thanks Nate and thanks for the alternate history research. I know how hard it is to find reliable sources on universes that don't exist.

your control is slipping. Tom are you watching this? Your time is now. The lasers can come out on top!

Micah wrote: "Veronica wrote: "We actually asked to have this put into the show as an annotation, but I guess they didn't have time to do it."
your control is slipping. Tom are you watching this? Your time is n..."
Veronica finds your lack of faith disturbing.
your control is slipping. Tom are you watching this? Your time is n..."
Veronica finds your lack of faith disturbing.

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I agree Alice's perspective would have been better. Unfortunately the book would have had a somewhat abrupt ending. Unless niffins can write...

Chase wrote: "I just discovered the show and the two hosts seem fun but ngl I cringed a little when Tom said he was basically Quentin in his 20's."
Yeah don't time travel and meet me. Annoying.
Yeah don't time travel and meet me. Annoying.

The Lev Grossman interview should be interesting considering how split the viewership was on his book. I must fit that fine line in the middle. I didn't hate the book but I had mixed feelings to be sure. I can totally understand why so many didn't like Q. He was almost too realistic. Some people just can't be happy no matter how cool their life is.
Keep up the great work guys.



I was happy to see that you'd brought Saladin Ahmed on, as he's a cool guy, and Throne of the Crescent Moon is a delightful ride. If you like the 1001 Nights and/or old pulp sword & sorcery, definitely give it a try.




I look forward to hearing the fruits of this discussion.
My two cents: In general, I'd like the book wrap ups to be done on the podcast, not on the show. Even if there's not a full, spoiler-y wrap up of The Magicians on the podcast, I hope future book wrap ups would be on the podcast.
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