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'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19986 comments A request from a group member, Shane:

Can anyone recommend a good book about Hitler's Eagle's Nest, aka the Olbersalzberg?

It seems most of the books I find on the subject are either tourism guides or a bit amateurish.

I'm leaning at present toward Despina Stratigakos' "Hitler at Home" (Yale University Press) and Arthur Mitchell's "Hitler's Mountain" (McFarland) both of which seem serious works of scholarship -- but neither is necessarily written from the perspective of most interest to me (how was the place built, what was the layout of the complex).

Thanks!


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Archie Hello Everyone,

My first comment as a member of this group, I’m hoping you can all help me out please!

A part of WW2 I find particularly interesting to read about and research is the occupation of Yugoslavia and the struggle of the various resistance movements that existed there.

I have read a number of great books on the topic (by writers such as Fitzroy Maclean, William Deakin, Basil Davidson etc.) but I just wanted to ask whether there are any others on here that share my interest, and whether you could recommend any other books for me to look into please?

Thank you, I look forward to your recommendations!


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Manray9 | 4785 comments Archie wrote: "Hello Everyone,

My first comment as a member of this group, I’m hoping you can all help me out please!

A part of WW2 I find particularly interesting to read about and research is the occupation o..."


Archie: For first-hand accounts within the partisan ranks, try the works of Milovan Djilas and Vladimir Dedijer. From Djilas try Wartime and Conversations with Stalin, for Dedijer try The Beloved Land and The War Diaries, Vols 1-3.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...

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'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19986 comments Not a subject that I have read a great deal about but I have heard good things about this book that may be of interest:

Shadows on the Mountain The Allies, the Resistance, and the Rivalries that Doomed WWII Yugoslavia by Marcia Kurapovna Shadows on the Mountain: The Allies, the Resistance, and the Rivalries that Doomed WWII Yugoslavia by Marcia Kurapovna


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Gregg | 195 comments Archie wrote: "Hello Everyone,

My first comment as a member of this group, I’m hoping you can all help me out please!

A part of WW2 I find particularly interesting to read about and research is the occupation o..."


Another first person account: Last Words A Memoir of World War II and the Yugoslav Tragedy by Boris J. Todorovich Last Words: A Memoir of World War II and the Yugoslav Tragedy by Boris J. Todorovich


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A.L. Sowards | 500 comments Archie wrote: "Hello Everyone,

My first comment as a member of this group, I’m hoping you can all help me out please!

A part of WW2 I find particularly interesting to read about and research is the occupation o..."


Here are a few that I enjoyed (or at least found educational):

Island of Terrible Friends by Bill Strutton Island of Terrible Friends by Bill Strutton
The Forgotten 500 The Untold Story of the Men Who Risked All For the Greatest Rescue Mission of World War II by Gregory A. Freeman Gregory A. Freeman by Gregory A. Freeman
The Race For Trieste by Geoffrey Cox The Race For Trieste by Geoffrey Cox
OSS and the Yugoslav Resistance 1943-1945 by Kirk Ford OSS and the Yugoslav Resistance 1943-1945 by Kirk Ford
Hitler's New Disorder The Second World War in Yugoslavia by Stevan K. Pavlowitch Hitler's New Disorder: The Second World War in Yugoslavia by Stevan K. Pavlowitch


message 1307: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19986 comments Some excellent recommendations A.L. thanks for helping Archie out.


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Archie Thank you very much for the recommendations, definitely enough there to keep me going for a while! Much appreciated.


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David | 24 comments I’m currently reading Resistance by Agnes Humbert about her experiences in occupied France under the Nazis...might fit what you are looking for.


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'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19986 comments My copy of this new Australian release arrived today. Hopefully I can squeeze it in to read in may sometime.

Shooting Through Campo 106 escaped POWs after the Italian Armistice by Katrina Kittel Shooting Through: Campo 106 escaped POWs after the Italian Armistice by Katrina Kittel


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Nadia (nadia212) | 7 comments Hi! I'm looking for a book on Joseph Goebbels that would be good biography to start with, I've been eyeing the Peter Longerich one for a while but I've seen mixed reviews, any suggestions?


message 1312: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (last edited Jun 17, 2020 02:25PM) (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19986 comments That's a hard one Nadia. The only book that I have read on the subject was; "The Goebbels Diaries: The Last Days" and that was a long time ago.

Final Entries 1945 The Diaries of Joseph Goebbels by Joseph Goebbels Final Entries 1945: The Diaries of Joseph Goebbels by Joseph Goebbels


message 1313: by Nadia (new)

Nadia (nadia212) | 7 comments I'll be on the look-out for that one as well, I've been meaning to read his diaries for a while but I haven't gotten to it yet. Do you remember 'enjoying' that particular volume? :)


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'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19986 comments To be honest it was close to forty years ago and I can't really remember.


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Manray9 | 4785 comments Any recommendations on a detailed atlas of World War I?


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Marc | 1746 comments Manray9 wrote: "Any recommendations on a detailed atlas of World War I?"

Maybe this one?

West Point Atlas of War World War I by Vincent J. Esposito West Point Atlas of War: World War I


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Manray9 | 4785 comments Marc wrote: "Manray9 wrote: "Any recommendations on a detailed atlas of World War I?"

Maybe this one?

West Point Atlas of War World War I by Vincent J. Esposito West Point Atlas of War: World War I"


Thanks. I found this one which looks good:

A Military Atlas of the First World War by Arthur S. Banks A Military Atlas of the First World War by Arthur Banks.


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 Kimya | 38 comments Hi everyone, hope you all had a wonderful weekend

I'm looking for several good books on Nicholas ll and Wilhelm ll biographies, if you have any recommendations please let me know

Thank you.


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Manray9 | 4785 comments Emmy Kimya wrote: "Hi everyone, hope you all had a wonderful weekend

I'm looking for several good books on Nicholas ll and Wilhelm ll biographies, if you have any recommendations please let me know

Thank you."


Nicholas And Alexandra by Robert K. Massie Nicholas And Alexandra by Robert Massie was both a good read and quite influential.


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 Kimya | 38 comments Thank you :) 🙏


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Doreen Petersen | 228 comments I'm looking for a book on the Rhineland Campaign. May be hard to find but any suggestions are welcome. I can always check out the Boston Public Library who seems to have treasure trove of WWII books. Thanks.


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Arcticvet | 34 comments Three English language book mentioned in Wikipedia - Further reading about RC:

Rawson, A. (2006). The Rhine Crossing. 9th US Army & 17th US Airborne, South Yorkshire, Pen & Sword Military

Saunders, Tim (2006). Operation Plunder. The British & Canadian Rhine Crossing, South Yorkshire, Pen & Sword Military

Whitaker, W.D. en Whitaker, S. (1989). Rhineland. The Battle to end the war., Stoddart


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John (johnnycobra) | 120 comments Looking for recommendations on books covering Operation Pedestal.


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Jonny | 2115 comments James Holland's Fortress Malta: An Island Under Siege 1940-1943 covers the entire siege, but has an excellent couple of chapters covering the convoy.

Fortress Malta An Island Under Siege 1940-1943 by James Holland


message 1328: by Marc (new)

Marc | 1746 comments John wrote: "Looking for recommendations on books covering Operation Pedestal."

Jonny's recommendation of Holland's book is an excellent one. This one might also help you out:

Red Duster, White Ensign The Story of Malta and the Malta Convoys by Ian Cameron Red Duster, White Ensign: The Story of Malta and the Malta Convoys


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John (johnnycobra) | 120 comments Great, thanks!!


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Manray9 | 4785 comments Anyone read a good narrative history of the Italian air force in WW II? I have a couple books on their aircraft, but nothing on ops.


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Jerome Otte | 808 comments Manray9 wrote: "Anyone read a good narrative history of the Italian air force in WW II? I have a couple books on their aircraft, but nothing on ops."

Hey, Manray, I know of these:

Regia Aeronautica The Italian Air Force 1923-1945 - An Operational History by Chris Dunning Courage Alone The Italian Airforce 1940-1943 by Chris Dunning by Chris Dunning


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Manray9 | 4785 comments Jerome wrote: "Manray9 wrote: "Anyone read a good narrative history of the Italian air force in WW II? I have a couple books on their aircraft, but nothing on ops."

Hey, Manray, I know of these:

[bookcover:Regi..."


Thanks, Jerome.


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'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19986 comments This book covers the Italian air force during the Battle of Britain which may be of interest as well:

The Chianti Raiders The Extraordinary Story of the Italian Air Force in the Battle of Britain by Peter Haining The Chianti Raiders: The Extraordinary Story of the Italian Air Force in the Battle of Britain by Peter Haining


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Doreen Petersen | 228 comments Tom wrote: "Decent older book..
The Battle for the Rhineland by Reginald William Thompson The Battle for the Rhineland by Reginald William Thompson"


Thanks Tom. Found where I can get a copy of the book you suggested. Important to me since my dad who passed was involved in this and I'm trying to understand all his WWII stuff he left to me. I know at one point he must have been "on loan" to Third Army since he saved a uniform shoulder patch that's definitely Third Army. I will treasure the info you provided and this group always.


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carl  theaker | 1560 comments Good query MR9. an interesting area.

Manray9 wrote: "Jerome wrote: "Manray9 wrote: "Anyone read a good narrative history of the Italian air force in WW II? I have a couple books on their aircraft, but nothing on ops."

Hey, Manray, I know of these:

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Elliot | 140 comments Can anyone recommend books on the battles and campaigns between Austria-Hungary and Italy during the First World War? General overviews of the front and more specific books on individual campaigns and armies are all welcome.

By the way, I already have Isonzo: The Forgotten Sacrifice of the Great War on my to-read list.


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Manray9 | 4785 comments Elliot wrote: "Can anyone recommend books on the battles and campaigns between Austria-Hungary and Italy during the First World War? General overviews of the front and more specific books on individual campaigns ..."

I thought this good, Elliot --

The White War Life and Death on the Italian Front 1915 - 1919 by Mark Thompson The White War: Life and Death on the Italian Front 1915 - 1919 by Mark Thompson.


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Elliot | 140 comments "I thought this good, Elliot --

The White War Life and Death on the Italian Front 1915 - 1919 by Mark Thompson The White War: Life and Death on the Italian Front 1915 - 1919 by Mark Thompson."


That fits the bill perfectly. Thanks, Manray9.


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'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19986 comments "Isonzo: The Forgotten Sacrifice of the Great War" is one of my favourite books on the Italian theatre during the Great War. I also second MR9's recommendation of "The White War". Some books on the Battle of Caporetto might be in order as well:

The Battle of Caporetto by Cyril Falls The Battle of Caporetto by Cyril Falls

Rommel and Caporetto by Eileen Wilks Rommel and Caporetto by Eileen Wilks

The author of this book also has published this book on the British Army in the Italian theatre:

The British Army In Italy, 1917 18 by Eileen Wilks The British Army In Italy, 1917 18 by Eileen Wilks

This one I haven't read so can't say how good it may be:

Caporetto and the Isonzo Campaign The Italian Front 1915-1918 by John MacDonald Caporetto and the Isonzo Campaign: The Italian Front 1915-1918 by John MacDonald

This book has been on my wishlist for a while:

A Soldier on the Southern Front The Classic Italian Memoir of World War 1 by Emilio Lussu A Soldier on the Southern Front: The Classic Italian Memoir of World War 1 by Emilio Lussu

This book below took me sometime to find secondhand at a reasonable price so a library may be your best bet:

The Italian Army and the First World War by John Gooch The Italian Army and the First World War by John Gooch


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Elliot | 140 comments 'Aussie Rick' wrote: ""Isonzo: The Forgotten Sacrifice of the Great War" is one of my favourite books on the Italian theatre during the Great War. I also second MR9's recommendation of "The White War". Some books on the..."

Thank you so much for this list of books, AR! I'm not sure when I'll get around to reading on this topic, but when I will I will have some great options to choose from.


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Barry Sierer | 6 comments I'm looking for a recommendations for a comprehensive book that covers all of the "Desert War" (including East Africa) . Any thoughts ?


message 1343: by Manray9 (last edited Oct 10, 2020 07:55AM) (new)

Manray9 | 4785 comments The Crucible of War: Auchinleck's Command: The Definitive History of the Desert WarBarry wrote: "I'm looking for a recommendations for a comprehensive book that covers all of the "Desert War" (including East Africa) . Any thoughts ?"

Barrie Pitt produced a three volume series on the War in the Desert:

The Crucible of War Wavell's Command The Definitive History of the Desert War by Barrie Pitt The Crucible of War: Wavell's Command: The Definitive History of the Desert War

The Crucible of War Auchinleck's Command The Definitive History of the Desert War by Barrie Pitt The Crucible of War: Auchinleck's Command: The Definitive History of the Desert War

Montgomery and Alamein The Crucible of War Book 3 by Barrie Pitt Montgomery and Alamein: The Crucible of War Book 3

The war in East Africa may require a look elsewhere.

An Improvised War The Ethiopian Campaign, 1940-1941 by Michael Glover An Improvised War: The Ethiopian Campaign, 1940-1941 by Michael Glover.


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Barry Sierer | 6 comments Manray9 wrote: "The Crucible of War: Auchinleck's Command: The Definitive History of the Desert WarBarry wrote: "I'm looking for a recommendations for a comprehensive book that covers all of the "Des..."

Thanks Manray


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Perato | 231 comments Looking for book(s) that cover several military leaders in one book, like:
The Generals: Patton, MacArthur, Marshall, and the Winning of World War II
The Admirals: Nimitz, Halsey, Leahy, and King—the Five-Star Admirals Who Won the War at Sea

I don't want short 2 page biopsies with 200 generals in one book or "who's who" but something between "one book, one person" and "all the persons in one book".

Any major country would do, Soviets, German, GB, USA, even Japan.

Any ideas?


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Perato | 231 comments Also I'm looking "beevor like" book about battle of Okinawa, Bagration and of Caen.

Manray9 wrote: "Try Jonathan Jordan's --

Perfect. Thank you a lot.


message 1348: by 'Aussie Rick', Moderator (new)

'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19986 comments I also highly recommend Jonathan Jordan's book; "Brothers, Rivals, Victors: Eisenhower, Patton, Bradley and the Partnership that Drove the Allied Conquest in Europe". Also you could check this book out:

Monty and Rommel Parallel Lives by Peter Caddick-Adams Monty and Rommel: Parallel Lives by Peter Caddick-Adams


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'Aussie Rick' (aussierick) | 19986 comments A good book on Caen is this older title:

Caen Anvil of Victory by Alexander McKee Caen: Anvil of Victory by Alexander McKee


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