The Infernal Devices discussion

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Clockwork Angel
Will vs. Jace, Jem vs. Simon, Clary vs. Tessa


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The book's coming out in 3 days! WHO ELSE IS PSYCHED?!"
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SAME!!!!!!!!! It's so awesome now I only have to wait 24 more hours :)
And for the characters:
Will vs Jace : Jace
Simon vs Jem: Jem totally
Clary vs Tessa: Tessa, definitely

Jem vs. Simon: Jem
Clary vs. Tessa: Sorry Clary but Tessa rocks!


TID FTW!!!

Tessa is selfless and brave while Clary is more of a damsal-in-distress

So, in summary:
Will, Jem & Tessa!
Will over Jace. I just don't think guys with long hair is attractive, even though he cuts it. Will is hilarious, and i just love him to pieces!
I don't really care for Simon, so I would choose Jem.
Tessa is cooler than Clary. Clary's a little funny, but I prefer Tessa.
TID over TMI
I don't really care for Simon, so I would choose Jem.
Tessa is cooler than Clary. Clary's a little funny, but I prefer Tessa.
TID over TMI

Simon
and neither, because Tessa pissed me off in CP2. Maybe Clary can get me to like her more in CoHF

Jem => the sweetest guy ever <3
Tessa (Clary gets too annoying in the 2 last books)

The only reason I like Jace is because he talks like Will. I LOVE WILL!!

I honestly can't choose between jem and simon because they're both too different and too perfect so im just going with BOTH!
and oh geez.. well i like clary's thinking and how she looks at life but i think i might be able to connect more with tessa so i guess i'll go with tessa even though i still loveeee clary :D

Jem vs. Simon - That's a no-brainer, JEM!!
Tessa vs. Clary - Tessa!!! I find Clary is a little too whiny sometimes...

Jem before Simon ALL THE WAY!
errr I think Clary. (am I alone on this one?) but I love them both!

Jem, because he is so full of acceptance and understanding, always sees the best in people.
Clary, because she's a fighter and never backs down. She speaks her mind and works hard to get what she wants. She jumps into things rather than consult with everyone around her, it's not her fault they feel the need to jump after her (like Luke through the portal to Idris). AND SHE FUCKING KNOWS WHO SHE LOVES!

^ ty. totally agree on the Clary part!


So are Clary and Tessa... I know a lot of people aren't fond of Clary, but I adore her!!
And I like Simon more than Jem, even though I love him too :)

Jem
Tessa
I'm sorry, guys, but TID is simply the best."
so true"
Agreed only because of hotness boys!!

Jem
Tessa
I'm sorry, guys, but TID is simply the best."
so true"
Agreed only because of hotness boys!!"
Well, I like them because of their character. I hate Clary and I don't care for Simon. I love Jace, but Will is so much more romantic and expressive in his love for Tessa. Jem is just . . . a brother (Not like a silent brother) and Will is my husband. Tessa is amazing.

No, no no no no no NO! I agree with Will and Jem, but honestly? Clary? That is girl like Bella. She pretends to know what she's doing, when really she only letting other people do everything. She's so . . . STEREOTYPICAL. And so what if Tessa loves two people? The author only did that so that people know loving one person isn't a mandatory thing. Saying you can only love one is like saying being gay is a bad thing. Tessa knows what she's doing, meanwhile, Clary is just . . . annoying and stupid and did I say annoying? And indecisive about whether she loves Jace or not. At least Tessa knows she loves two people.

Simon
Clary
(all the way) :)"
No Will?"
i dont really like will but im changing the clary thing to both since they are two different sides that complete one heart..."
HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE WILL!? Will and Jace are like best friends, they have everything in common <3 Except Will's more romantic. I like him better.

I agree one can and will have more than one love.
Now on the whole Tessa vr. Clary thing:
Tessa depended very much on her clockwork angel, she isn't a kickass heroine which is fine and cool, I prefer badass ones like Izzy and Rose from Vampire Academy.
Clary is closer to this discription than Tessa + she trains way harder and know what she stands for. She refused to hide in an institute, which was arguably a good decision, but hey that's how great stories are made!
I don't think comparing Clary to Bella is fitting. All Bella did was broke down, forgetting life when Edward left till she jumped from a cliff. Then she got pregnant and refused to get abortion risking her life even though she knew Edward would die with her.
Clary in the other hand didn't go all crazy-emo-suicidal-nutjob when she wasn't with Jace. Her life has so much more to it than just him - she has friends unlike Bella, she doesn't whine "Oh, if only I was a vampire I could have helped", Clary is all "Show me where my demonic brother's at!" She's brave. Reckless, yet brave. I like that.
Still, don't get me wrong, I loved how Cassie solved the love triangle, I really like Tessa. I got most (may be all, but who knows?) points Cassie made in CP2 and as you could see in other threads, I defend the way things developed and I understand why they happened the way they did. I really love CP2 and think TID is much deeper and overall better. However, I prefer the action that happens around Clary, how she pushes the story, forcing everyone to act. I'd like Tessa for a friend, but I'd love to hear Clary's adventures any day :)
To sum it all in one sentence: things happen to Tessa, but Clary makes things happen, no matter for better or for worse, which is more entertaining to me.

Simon
Clary
(all the way) :)"
No Will?"
i dont really like will but im changing the clary thing to both since they are two different sides that comple..."
Noooo, Jace is a lot worse. He doesn't have a reason to be a jerk; Will did. And Will was actually funny, whereas Jace really wasn't.

I don't like how Cassie solved the love triangle at all--to me it feels like cheating. I used to like Tessa more but in the third book she was quite bland. I see your point; I don't hate Clary nearly as much as others do, and some people even blame her for kissing her brother when she didn't even know Sebby was her brother. But she's just not interesting to me.

Jem vs Simon: I am not that far into TMI yet (only just read city of bones, waiting to get city of ashes), by what I've read I like Jem, Simon is funny sometimes, but Jem is always so kind. Simon is probably funnier but based on over all personality i have to go jem on this one.
Tessa vs clary: This is a hard one cuz I really like both characters! Clary is more relatable cuz she has modern day problems, but i find Tessa more Interesting. Idk..... If i had to choose i'd say tessa probably...

Jem vs Simon. Tough one. I like both and they are my favorite characters of each series. If I MUST choose I choose Jem. He is one of the truly selfless characters in the novels. Simon cracks me up though.
Tessa vs Clary: Tessa. I liked her from the beginning. She was strong willed out of the gate as is Clary but Tessa IMO is more mature. Clary sometimes is so wrapped up in saving Jace she loses a bit of herself sometimes. But it's really a thin line between the two females. Both are learning who and what they are. I do however love the fact that in TMI it's the boy who needs the saving. ;D
Simon vs Jem - Simon Lewis <3 (( I love you Simon. <3 ))
Clary vs Tessa - Tessa Gray <3