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fifty shades of grey by E.L.James
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Mar 30, 2012 02:19PM
I loved this series! I have recommended it to several friends. I would love to see Christian Grey in a movie, but I really can't see that happening.
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Ha!! Wouldnt that be someting though Andrea?!
I think I'm gonna cry.... This was the one group that HADN'T mentioned this book....
People are talking so much about this book, I think I'll finally give in and read it, even though I'm not a fan of erotica...
This book really is all over the place, even my non-reader friends are fan-girling over this book! I'm going to hopefully read it after the one I'm currently working on!
I'm probably the only person here who will say she hated it. First of all it's based on a piece of Twilight Fan fic, and she doesn't even give Stephanie Meyer credit(in the fan fic, it was Bella And Edward) secondly, it's badly written. Thirdly it's so demeaning to women IMHO it sets the feminist movement back 20 years!
Anne wrote: "I'm probably the only person here who will say she hated it. First of all it's based on a piece of Twilight Fan fic, and she doesn't even give Stephanie Meyer credit(in the fan fic, it was Bella A..."OMG Anne Thank you thank you thank you!!! GR needs a like or love button because I seriously love on what you just said.... All the drama about this book is all over facebook and it wasn't even an original idea nevermind the WAY it was written but the way she got it published????
HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT!!!! I support books that used to be published (Poughkeepsie, Sempre, Gabriel's inferno) but this one? HELL NO... I can't stand what was once the fic, what is now the book or it's damn author...
Abby wrote: "Anne wrote: "I'm probably the only person here who will say she hated it. First of all it's based on a piece of Twilight Fan fic, and she doesn't even give Stephanie Meyer credit(in the fan fic, i..."Why are Poughkeepsie, Semre, and Gabriels Inferno ok but not Fifty? Because it's popular and has all the headlines right now? Seems to me they all started out the same way.
Abby wrote: "Bitchie wrote: "Abby wrote: "Anne wrote: "I'm probably the only person here who will say she hated it. First of all it's based on a piece of Twilight Fan fic, and she doesn't even give Stephanie M..."What do you mean she stepped on people to do it? I hate when authors do that XP
Anne wrote: "I'm probably the only person here who will say she hated it. First of all it's based on a piece of Twilight Fan fic, and she doesn't even give Stephanie Meyer credit(in the fan fic, it was Bella A..."Oh no Anne, I hated the book too. There was nothing good about it. I love erotica books, and this did not even come close. You can tell it is read by alot of YA who are not all that expienced with this kind of topic, because they would of found alot wrong with this book.
Abby wrote: "There's a blog post with a convo between two authors , both of whom now have published works, E.L and another one... and While I don't agree with the fact that this author posted a private conversa..."I don't want you to think I was attacking you, I wasn't, I was just curious what made one different from the others. I'm kinda iffy myself on the whole selling of fanfic thing, and to that end, I don't buy ANY of it, I beg and borrow it wherever I can, lol!
And.... I'd kinda like to see that blog you mentioned, if you wouldn't mind pming it to me. I had heard in other places James wasn't so nice about the Twilight fans (of which I am one of), and I haven't been thrilled with the way Random House has been saying Fifty is original fiction, when anyone who has MotU and Fifty can compare and see it's NOT totally original fiction, and it has NOT been extensively re-written, as has been implied.
I love this series, but I do not want it to become a movie, movies always ruin good books
Bitchie wrote: "Abby wrote: "Anne wrote: "I'm probably the only person here who will say she hated it. First of all it's based on a piece of Twilight Fan fic, and she doesn't even give Stephanie Meyer credit(in t..."I haven't read it Bitchie, but I do wonder why it's unlike Poughkeepsie, etc.
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Michelle(Chelle) aka Nightshade - Cake Whisperer
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Naynay wrote: "Anne wrote: "I'm probably the only person here who will say she hated it. First of all it's based on a piece of Twilight Fan fic, and she doesn't even give Stephanie Meyer credit(in the fan fic, i..."Everyone is entitled to their opinion on these books - personally I loved them and I'll be 44 next month, along with a whole group of fans here on GR. So the only thing I really take exception to is your blanket assumption that only YA readers would like these books. I've read other erotic & bdsm novels, some I liked, some I didn't.
When I read the first book I had heard nothing about the whole fanfic controversy. I just loved the book as it stood. My opinion hasn't changed on that.
I didn't say only YA readers would. Someone else may have. I don't blanket assume. I wasn't trying to change anyone's mind, just express an opinion, even though it was an unpopular one. Please don't make blanket statement about me.
Bitchie wrote: "Abby wrote: "Anne wrote: "I'm probably the only person here who will say she hated it. First of all it's based on a piece of Twilight Fan fic, and she doesn't even give Stephanie Meyer credit(in t..."Naynay wrote: "Anne wrote: "I'm probably the only person here who will say she hated it. First of all it's based on a piece of Twilight Fan fic, and she doesn't even give Stephanie Meyer credit(in the fan fic, i..."
IF all those other books are the same way, then the same goes for them as well.
Anne wrote: "I didn't say only YA readers would. Someone else may have. I don't blanket assume. I wasn't trying to change anyone's mind, just express an opinion, even though it was an unpopular one. Please ..."I wasn't referring to you Anne. I replied to Naynay who did make that comment. So I was not making a blanket statement about you. Again, (no offense intended), I don't care whether you liked the book or not. I did and that is really all that matters to me for my reading enjoyment.
I'm on book three currently, and I do enjoy them for the most part. The only thing I would mention is that people that haven't read them think they are about S&M when not a lot of it is present. They think that it's about a dom and sub when NONE of that is present. Yes, Christian is an overbearing control freak, but Ana defies him almost everyday. And spoiler: She doesn't even ever sign the damn contract, so there is no dom and sub role.
That's because all the media coverage of this series calls it "mommy porn" and focuses on the S&M/kink aspect of the books, rather than the romance and the story of why Christian is the way he is.
I only read about half of the book and stopped reading because I found it boring. Don't shoot me anyone, I have seen the gazillions of posts, I know you guys are passionate about these books. What I don't understand is why it is all over the Paranormal groups here. Is there something PR or UF about it? Since I didn't finish it, maybe it came later?
I have read the Fifty Shades Trilogy. LOVE LOVE LOVE it! And I owe a HUGE thanks to Aesta's for giving this girl the Fifty hook up! The love story was amazing. The hot scenes were fun and def. opened up my mind to a little more than just vanilla. I'm torn about it being made a movie tho, I just don't think a movie can get it done and done right the way the books have. However, I would still see the movie.
Bitchie wrote: "That's because all the media coverage of this series calls it "mommy porn" and focuses on the S&M/kink aspect of the books, rather than the romance and the story of why Christian is the way he is."Girl you hit this one right on! There is so much more to the whole story if everyone would look at the tragic past of the oh so yummy Mr. Grey & the love story that blooms between him and Ana. And not focus on the " OMD It's porn" crap or how it demoralizes women. Ok thats my little rant. LOVE FIFTY!
Tiffany wrote: "I only read about half of the book and stopped reading because I found it boring. Don't shoot me anyone, I have seen the gazillions of posts, I know you guys are passionate about these books. Wha..."No PNR Tiffany. I think a lot of us who read PNR also like other types of books. I personally like Historical Fiction, Mystery/Thriller, Contemporary, Classics, etc. It happened through word of mouth as more and more people found the books.
Thanks Michelle! I like other types of genres as well so I understand that. I can also understand how it got talked about on all the paranormal lists here as this book seeems to be spreading like wildfire! I can respect the loyalty/passion this series brings out in people.
Bitchie wrote: "Abby wrote: "There's a blog post with a convo between two authors , both of whom now have published works, E.L and another one... and While I don't agree with the fact that this author posted a pri..."It was never implied that it was re-written. And just because it was first released in a Twilight Fan-Fiction site does not mean it meets the definition of fan-fiction. Yes the name originally were Bella and Edward, but other than that there are few similarities.
But everyone is entitled to their opinion. Probably as much as y'all don't want to hear about this book, I am equally tired of hearing about how it's just a rip off, which is not the case.
Tiffany wrote: "Thanks Michelle! I like other types of genres as well so I understand that. I can also understand how it got talked about on all the paranormal lists here as this book seeems to be spreading like..."The series has definitely managed to stir up a lot of interest, good & bad. I'm sorry to hear that you didn't care for it but everyone has different tastes. I don't think it bothers fans who loved the series that others don't like it. What is irritating is when people who didn't care for the books talk down to those of us who did. I appreciate your honest opinion without dissing those that did like it.
Good question Sally - I think first because it has a good story (IMO). Second, for those of us that don't really read the erotica/bdsm genre this is a gentle nudge in that direction without feeling like jumping off a cliff. I've read a lot more in the genre since and this is a bit tame in comparison to some of the other books I've read. And for those of us that have liked the books - Christian & Ana are a very hot couple.
Alana (aka ◘Whiplash◘) wrote: But everyone is entitled to their opinion. Probably as much as y'all don't want to hear about this book, I am equally tired of hearing about how it's just a rip off, which is not the case. "
THANK YOU!!! It isn't a rip-off because it stands as its own story period.
I'm convinced those who keep bashing it haven't actually read it. Those who have read it actually post reasons why they didn't like it.
Sally wrote: "Haven't read it. Still debating whether I will. My question is: why these books? What sets these books apart from all the other books of this genre to the point where everyone is talking about them..."I think it's the beginning of a new genre. People that have read erotica/bdsm before think this book doesn't even count, it's so tame. But, if you're new to the genre, like I am, Ana doesn't know anything either. It's all explained in the book to her and to you at the same time. So, I agree with Michelle. Also, there might be appeal in reading about falling in love with a multi-millionaire lol. Every girl's dream, right? I don't think EL James could have written this book/made it interesting without the fact that Christian can buy whatever the hell he wants lol Concerning the plot, it makes all the difference in the world.
I've read 2.5 books in this series and I had to stop. *spoilers* I liked the first and second books ok, but by the third I can't stand it. I know it's probably not what the author is going for, but I just can't help think that this relationship is going the way of abuse. I guess as a nurse, we are trained to see the signs of abusive relationships and they always start of with someone who's a control freak like Christian. It just bugs me that he wont let her have her friends, has to know where she is, tells her what to do all the time. BDSM/bondage is about trust and love, not about mistrust and control so I just couldn't stand it. Mostly because even though he was making some progress on himself (being able to be touched/love), he was making no progress on how he treated her. It was disrespectful in a not sexy way.Also as far as erotica goes/the plotline I got so sick of the fight/sex/fight/sex/fight/sex rinse and repeat cycle. It would have been nice if they could change it up more often. I was more interested in the possibly relationship of Mia and the brother(can't remember his name).
The writing was ok, but unimaginative. I think if she could branch out and have an entire solid story, she could write a good book.
For the record, I don't have any issues with fanfic turned book because A. I don't read fanfic, and B. it's not PNR, so I really don't see how it could be ripping off twilight except that characters are virgin/experienced the same, but that's half the romance novels out there and in the same location. So I wouldn't be mad about that. She did come up with her own story. Everyone's gotten some part of their books/story from someone before. It's not like twilight was the first vampire novel ever. Meyer got the idea for vampires somewhere. I mean "The Host" is just another version of the classic body snatcher tale, etc.
I feel like he did make a lot of progress on the way he treated her, especially in the end of the last book. You just might have missed out on that by not finishing the third.I loved this series, could't put it down but there were some things that I did not like. It was predictable, I saw where it was going a mile away. Also I do agree with the previous poster that the monotony got a little old.
No matter what books you talk about there will be people who both love and hate the books!
Eowynmn wrote: "I've read 2.5 books in this series and I had to stop. *spoilers* I liked the first and second books ok, but by the third I can't stand it. I know it's probably not what the author is going for, b..."I felt the same way, but I have to finish what I start. It got better at the end, but the first was the best.
I was also about to claw my eyes out if she said mercurial one more effing time. I wanted her to get a thesaurus by the end of the 3rd book, or just say moody. It was almost like she had a word of the day calendar, liked that word, and thought it made her sound smart.
I gauge books on if I'd re-read them. The first yes, but I'll pass on the monotony of the other two...
Eowynmn wrote: "I've read 2.5 books in this series and I had to stop. *spoilers* I liked the first and second books ok, but by the third I can't stand it. I know it's probably not what the author is going for, b..."I felt the same way, but I have to finish what I start. It got better at the end, but the first was the best.
I was also about to claw my eyes out if she said mercurial one more effing time. I wanted her to get a thesaurus by the end of the 3rd book, or just say moody. It was almost like she had a word of the day calendar, liked that word, and thought it made her sound smart.
I gauge books on if I'd re-read them. The first yes, but I'll pass on the monotony of the other two...
That is the opinion of most. Loved the 1st book. Eh on the 2nd book and not so much the 3rd. But that's because it was originally fanfiction and with many a fanfiction story, the writers have a tendency to drone on over and over on one point. The story went on to long. The writer is not a professional writer so she didn't know how to pull everything together in the end causing an abrupt ending as well. But in fanfiction, as fans, we are forgiving of these things. As a published work, we are not and blame the publishers for the poor editing and horrible prose.
I also don't care about the fanfic aspect of it...I didn't read it so I judged it purely on the reading the books. E.L. James may have gotten creative kudos where she doesn't deserve it but I can not voice in on that opinion.I loved book one and two and felt the story arc ended there with a HEA I was completely satisfied with. I was worn out after reading those two books. If I had written them I would have changed a few things. But I loved these two.
The third book to me was, with the exception of one sex scene on the boat with the handcuffs, boring and did not make scene. We know that these two are going to have problems. The probability of their relationship surviving was poor at best. Why did we have to read a few hundred pages of them having problems?
A couple of you said it was a repeat cycle of fighting/sex/cozy and so on. I always had problems that a girl as young as Ana could handle Christian at all. Most girls who are 21-22 do not have the emotional maturity to understand and have the where-withall to manage a relationship with someone with so many emotional hang-ups as Christian.
One thing that irritated me was how she would promise him something and as soon as his back was turned she did the exact opposite. I begin to think she did it so they could fight...on purpose. This was the only realistic aspect of Ana-many girls at that age do not understand a man like Christians need for control. But this just bugged me...and you would think she would learn?
By the same token Christian reminded me of someone more 35 years old and how did someone get to raise up the ranks to his position with out a college degree? I get it there are Steve Job's/Bill Gates out there who drop out and rise to the top....but it is extremely rare.
If you watch Pinnacle on Fox/CNN...they interview CEO's & Highly Successful people who are leading companies and they all have uber degrees. Why did Christian drop out? Wasn't he really smart?
In Gabriel's InfernoI get it that he dropped out of one of the schools he was going to....without giving it away....there was some Sh*t going down at the time...and he went back to school to finish.
If he had started selling a unique product and rose to the top....I could buy that. But the industry that he got into would never have allowed him to get to that position at his age. He would have had to have been grandfathered in because he was hired 20 years ago or something....it is just rare and I hate a author who just ignores that.
But in defense of this series...it was intense, extremely emotional and the sex was hottttt! I really was sucked in and felt my own heart at jeopardy along with Ana and Christian as they moved through the story. I just would recommend reading book one and two and leave three alone.
I recommend the following slightly similar types of books if you have not read them already:
I am currently reading this book. I'm about 1/2 through and I want to PUNCH HER INNER GODDESS IN THE FACE!!!!
Amy wrote: "I am currently reading this book. I'm about 1/2 through and I want to PUNCH HER INNER GODDESS IN THE FACE!!!!"
Amy, that made me laugh out loud. I forgot about her inner goddess. It was a little strange at times.
I agree, her inner goddess was probably the most irritating part. But I loved the book and at times it kind of cracked me up too.
Amy wrote: "I am currently reading this book. I'm about 1/2 through and I want to PUNCH HER INNER GODDESS IN THE FACE!!!!"
THANK YOU! I freaking hated that aspect of the books.... About half way through if I saw the word goddess i skipped the next sentance.
I never read this as a FanFic but I did read a FanFic that IMO was a much much better story of a BDSM relationship. I think they have been edited since I read them but they are still posted athttp://www.fanfiction.net/u/1595284/t...
Written by - tara sue me
The Submissive
The Dominant
The Training
I liked this book in parts, but I became so tired of seeing the use of the words, "jeeze", "equilibrium", and and "flushed" and or "flush". Maybe it's just me but these words were repeated over and over and over and over. .....i think it's just me??? Also i hate her inner goddess.
Angel wrote: "I liked this book in parts, but I became so tired of seeing the use of the words, "jeeze", "equilibrium", and and "flushed" and or "flush". Maybe it's just me but these words were repeated over and..."Angel it's not just you! She repeated so many words, and it felt like teenager playing adult.
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- was like trying to read tweets by Courtney StoddenIncase you have never felt your brain slowly shrivel up and die
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/pugs-a...
Amy wrote: "Angel wrote: "I liked this book in parts, but I became so tired of seeing the use of the words, "jeeze", "equilibrium", and and "flushed" and or "flush". Maybe it's just me but these words were rep...":)I don't know who courney stoddens is, but I know that I became stupid after reading those tweets. Lol I mean there were very few parts of this book that I liked.
way way nooooo... as soon as I've heard its a fanfiction and read both side's of reviews, it turned me off big time. I never like reading fanfics and I'm not gonna start now.honestly, I read a lot of bdsm eroticas. there's a lot better ellora's cave serials and stand alone novels than this. Try Anna Rice please. Thats my first entry level that got me to this part of the literature.
Love, love the first in the series. I am currently waiting on the second to ship. I can't wait to read them.
Tiffany wrote: "Amy wrote: "I am currently reading this book. I'm about 1/2 through and I want to PUNCH HER INNER GODDESS IN THE FACE!!!!"
Amy, that made me laugh out loud. I forgot about her inner goddes..."
The mention of her "inner goddess" could easily be a drinking game. You would thoroughly sloshed when it is said and done!!!! That part of the book drove me insane. Lots of repeated terms. "inner goddess" (drink, lol) "unbidden" "bequiled". Can we please come up with another term for these overused words?
I hated the "oh my" over and over. I've noticed that more than anything else. And, I didn't mind her inner goddess I actually thought it was a unique aspect of the book. *shrug*
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