Pandemonium (Delirium, #2) Pandemonium discussion


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Alex or Julian???

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message 1301: by Reem (new) - rated it 5 stars

Reem noooooooooooo!


message 1302: by Reem (new) - rated it 5 stars

Reem ALEX! Why!!! dont die


Carolina I was just kidding :)


Carolina I was just kidding :)


message 1305: by Tessa (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tessa I hope that for the first part of the third book she chooses to take a step back from both of them (since she obviously has feelings for both of them) and be then she can be the kick butt girl she's become without depending on a guy. And then she can develop relationships with both of the guys aside from a 'boyfriend-girlfriend' relationship and see who they truly are and who she is and THEN she can pick which one.
Personally, I LOVE Alex. He's hardcore.
I think Julian is sweet and brave but I feel like he's going to depend alot Lena and be clingy-ish. However, I can see how ya'll think he's better for Lena.
BUT i still think Lena's hardcore and Alex is hardcore soooo they should be hardcore together.


message 1306: by Diane (new) - rated it 5 stars

Diane I think it'll end in one of two ways.

1. Lena chooses Julien, and Alex is just a friend, no more.

2. Lena chooses Alex, and Julien ends up with Hana. ( I want this to happen!!!)

I think I'm leaning more towards the 2nd option, not only because Hana comes into the story, but also because I feel that even if Lena DID change, she still has the Lena side that loved Alex, and risked everything to be with him. Alex was the first person Lena truly wanted to be with, leaving behind her family and friends for him.

Also, (Spoiler!!! Because Hana told on Lena and Alex, I don't think she'll forgive Hana ever, and neither will Alex, leaving her with Julien, who I THINK will be on her side, because he was raised to believe in the DFA)

Not only that, but I also think that Julien will be disloyal to Lena, and eventually they end it off, leaving it as a friendship. Also, Lauren Oliver wouldn't have put in so much foreshadowing in the beginning chapters that Alex will come back, if she was just going to end up putting Alex into confuse Lena.

I just think the Alex is the tougher more, more correct choice for Lena, because Julien just seems to much like a coward to me, and is someone who just isn't willing to put it all on the line like Alex did, to come find Lena again.

Also, I don't blame Alex for being pissed off when he comes back to find Lena and Julien sucking each other's faces off, because anyone would be too. Plus, the only reason Lena saved Julien, was because she couldn't lose him as well as Alex, showing that (In my opinion) Alex is the better choice, but I really wish the 2nd option is how it plays out, because I love Alex so much.


message 1307: by [deleted user] (new)

Julian, who knows what Alex's reaction will be in the thrid book he will probably even want her killed. If Alex really loved her, he wouldn't hate Lena just because she moved on... we all have to sometimes and if Alex starts a lot of drama in the next book I'm so going to want him killed.


message 1308: by Bren (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bren Ladies!!!! how quick you are to forget that without Alex Lena would be married off to someone else. She would have never escaped. I blame Lena for any of Alex's crazyness. TEAM ALEX!!!! and if Julian truly loves her he will realize that her heart belongs to Alex and he will let her go.


message 1309: by Hope (new) - rated it 4 stars

Hope ALEX!!!!!!!! Well, that is for now. When I first saw Julians name I though he was a little kid! XD But I have always loved Alex... :)


message 1310: by Clary (new) - rated it 2 stars

Clary A I wonder why this discussion kept on running when someone already knows who Lena ends up with, *sigh :)


message 1311: by Andrea (new) - rated it 5 stars

Andrea Clary wrote: "I wonder why this discussion kept on running when someone already knows who Lena ends up with, *sigh :)"

Not everybody knows


message 1312: by Bren (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bren wait is book three out?


message 1313: by Clary (new) - rated it 2 stars

Clary A Andrea wrote: "Clary wrote: "I wonder why this discussion kept on running when someone already knows who Lena ends up with, *sigh :)"

Not everybody knows"


yeah but was it so hard to ask somebody who knows? and end this debate of the century (turning into WWIII) and lets all be happy and get over it :D


Carolina No, only some ARC


message 1315: by Bren (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bren Carolina wrote: "No, only some ARC"

So how do people know ?


message 1316: by Andrea (new) - rated it 5 stars

Andrea Clary wrote: "Andrea wrote: "Clary wrote: "I wonder why this discussion kept on running when someone already knows who Lena ends up with, *sigh :)"

Not everybody knows"

yeah but was it so hard to ask somebody ..."


I know! Im tired too...soon we will all know


Carolina Brenda wrote: "Carolina wrote: "No, only some ARC"

So how do people know ?"


Know what? With who she ends up with? I think that the people that already got the ARC are telling to the ones that want to know, I guess.


message 1318: by Clary (new) - rated it 2 stars

Clary A Andrea wrote: "Clary wrote: "Andrea wrote: "Clary wrote: "I wonder why this discussion kept on running when someone already knows who Lena ends up with, *sigh :)"

Not everybody knows"

yeah but was it so hard to..."



sure thing, though I already know because I can't wait too long. it still fun (and a little bit irritating) to read this kind of discussion it was just quite amusing to me especially on how people become so affected by this "love triangle thing" wondering every time why they went overboard just to fight for their man yet some still don't really care of finding the winner earlier.

PS: Can't wait to read the final book and the discussion after :)


message 1319: by Em (new) - rated it 4 stars

Em Harper How do you choose??? How will she choose??? Alex was her first love, but Julian gave up everything for her. I don't know, I truely don't. The next book will be amazing. I'm sure.


message 1320: by Riah (new) - added it

Riah I haven't decided. I love both for different reasons, so I'm waiting to read Requiem before I decide whether I want Alex of Julian. It may turn out that Julian becomes somewhat of a brat and I pick Alex or maybe Alex will become an annoying "turned" character, somewhat like Peeta in the Hunger Games and I'll pick Julian. I'm waiting to decide. I did find it somewhat odd she "fell in love" with Julian so quickly and if she were a real person I'd probably talk to her about how her feelings maybe more about how they were trapped together than true love. But she's a made up person, so how should I know if the author wanted it to truly be love or not?


message 1321: by Melanie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Melanie Defiantly Alex because he was linas first love and if it he was never in the linas life she wouldn't be the same as she is now. All through out the second book we see her trying to recover from the loss of Alex and she really should stay with Alex. Also because i like Alex more than julian


message 1322: by Duyen (new) - rated it 5 stars

Duyen Ngo Emily wrote: "Alex Alex Alex!!! I was NOT able to connect with Julien at all! I NEED Lena to pick Alex! Lena pick Alex! i dont understand how she could forget about Alex and fall for another guy so easily??"

BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT HE WAS DEAD.


message 1323: by Liz (new) - rated it 4 stars

Liz I never thought I would say it but: Julian.
Honestly, it is the first time I prefer the second guy in the love-triangle.

Of course, Alex was the first one Lena fell in love with and he was the one who changed her and gave her the possibility to escape, but he was gone for such a long time. She did not know he was alive otherwise she would have reacted differently.
Julian just seems to fit better to Lena. They have much more similarities and they actually understand each other because they went through similar situations and feelings and problems.
It felt better to read about Julian and Lena than about Alex and Lena somehow....

Sorry :( I really like Alex but I nevertheless think that Julian is the right one for Lena and not Alex.


message 1324: by Andrea (new) - rated it 5 stars

Andrea ...well I just read a small excerpt from Requiem and I am almost sure who she will choose...I am completely devastated oh god...


message 1325: by Lizbeth (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lizbeth Perez Alex! I mean there's nothing wrong with Julian but she met Alex first and none of this would have happened without him.


Olivia  Stuck Lauren Oliver is an amazing author who made most of us fall in love with both Alex and Julian. So lets stuck it out to see what she has in store, because anything she writes will be great!


message 1327: by Tessa (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tessa Aivilo wrote: "Lauren Oliver is an amazing author who made most of us fall in love with both Alex and Julian. So lets stuck it out to see what she has in store, because anything she writes will be great!"

perfectly stated!! I'm so torn!!


message 1328: by Rosie (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rosie I don't know between Julian and Alex. I used to be Alex all the way when I first started to read it but then I thought Julian was such a sweety and I just don't know anymore, guess we'll have to see in requiem.

One thing is for sure though:

I REALLY HATE LENA AT THE MOMENT!


message 1329: by Casey (new) - added it

Casey I'm team Alex til' the end


message 1330: by Jen (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jen Valerie wrote: "I think that in the next book Julian is going to find out that Raven and Tack set Lena and Julian up and he's going think Lena was in on it. Julian will be upset with Lena, and meanwhile Alex and L..."

I vote for this option. : )


message 1331: by Jen (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jen I finished Pandemonium and immediately was seized with fear - I wasn't sure I even wanted to read Requiem for fear that Lena and Alex's relationship would be ruined forever! Let's be honest - she never really has gotten over him. Julian needed rescuing, so she did that with what she learned from Alex. But Alex is the source; he taught her to love. She'll never get over him, and I am desperately hoping that in Requiem they can have the happily ever after they deserve.


message 1332: by Tessa (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tessa Jenny wrote: "Valerie wrote: "I think that in the next book Julian is going to find out that Raven and Tack set Lena and Julian up and he's going think Lena was in on it. Julian will be upset with Lena, and mean..."

Oh my gosh! I never thought about that but I totally hope it's true!! and I agree with Jenny. Everything she knows is because of Alex. I just reread segments of both books and Julian's really sweet and all but I'm all for Alex. I just hope he hasn't changed toooo much from the Crypts


message 1333: by [deleted user] (new)

ALEX. ALEX. ALEX. I WILL ABANDON THE SERIES IF ITS NOT ALEX:(


message 1334: by Andrea (new) - rated it 5 stars

Andrea Holy crap! Lauren Oliver just announced Delirium will become a TV series!!!! Aaaaahhhhhhhh **drops dead**


message 1335: by Jen (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jen Carolina wrote: "I've just read an spoiler that says that Alex dies and she chooses Julian. Sorry, girls.

Oh, that was mean! You almost gave me a heart attack!

I am WAY too emotionally invested in these books. Good grief. They're fictional characters. I need another book.

































































JUST KIDDING! HAPPY INNOCENTS DAY!!!"



message 1336: by Chloe (new) - rated it 3 stars

Chloe Uhhh HELLOO!!! TEAM ALEX! You just don't date a guy you've known for less than a month. If they do get together and have children, if one of them goes "how did you meet mom?" Jullian will go "in a jail cell". Not the best answer. I think Jullian is not really in love with Lena. He's in love with the idea of love. He's never experienced it before, so he's curious. Especially because his father is the head of the DFA. Alex sacrificed so much for Lena. He spent 6 months in jail. He escaped to be with Lena again, thinking that she would wait for him. I think Jullian should just BACK OFF!!!


message 1337: by Andrea (new) - rated it 5 stars

Andrea Pretended he was dead? He never pretended he was dead...Lena assumed he was dead...there's a big difference there


message 1338: by Sofia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sofia Aramayo Hi!!what a huge discussion!!!LOL .I'm team Alex all the way I mean he's great!and he sacrifised him self for Lena!!I think that at this point Lena is really confused and I get it!SPOILER:I read Annabel and there was this exclusive part where u could read two chapters of requiem...abd Lena is still enlived with Alex!!she and Julian took a break or I must say she took a break?Anyways she wants Alex to talk to her cauz since he got back he hasnt told her a word!and she says He's become a monster!!soo im really scared.I think that unfortunatly lauren will take the easy way and she will make Lena foret Alex's love saying that he was her first love but Julian is her truth love.I don't want that to happend but I have a weird feeling that it will.I have nothing against Julian but I just didn't feel the same chamestry that I felt with Alex.I LOVE ALEX!!<3<3<3


message 1339: by Sofia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sofia Aramayo Hi!!what a huge discussion!!!LOL .I'm team Alex all the way I mean he's great!and he sacrifised him self for Lena!!I think that at this point Lena is really confused and I get it!SPOILER:I read Annabel and there was this exclusive part where u could read two chapters of requiem...abd Lena is still enlived with Alex!!she and Julian took a break or I must say she took a break?Anyways she wants Alex to talk to her cauz since he got back he hasnt told her a word!and she says He's become a monster!!soo im really scared.I think that unfortunatly lauren will take the easy way and she will make Lena foret Alex's love saying that he was her first love but Julian is her truth love.I don't want that to happend but I have a weird feeling that it will.I have nothing against Julian but I just didn't feel the same chamestry that I felt with Alex.I LOVE ALEX!!<3<3<3


message 1340: by Cat (new) - rated it 3 stars

Cat Andrea wrote: "Holy crap! Lauren Oliver just announced Delirium will become a TV series!!!! Aaaaahhhhhhhh **drops dead**"

Noooo!!!! You're kidding, right? A movie, now a TV series... oh God... it just gets worse and worse...


message 1341: by Andrea (new) - rated it 5 stars

Andrea Why worse? To me it's the best news ever lol


message 1342: by Cat (new) - rated it 3 stars

Cat Andrea wrote: "Why worse? To me it's the best news ever lol"

Okay, yeah, maybe it's great news, and of course, I'm madly in love with Delirium, but this is horrible news. The more of my favorite books/series get made into movies, the worst I feel because it's always screwed up somehow. And just how, may I ask, do they plan on turning elaborate, intricate Delirium into a TV SERIES?


message 1343: by Andrea (new) - rated it 5 stars

Andrea Idk Lauren Oliver said it would be enter than a movie for the same reason....there would be a lot of scenes in the book that wouldn't be in a movie because of the length of it ...the only thing that worries me a little is the changes they might make that might change the story completely just like pretty little liars or any other book turned into series but I'm happy cause ill get to see more of Alex


message 1344: by Cat (new) - rated it 3 stars

Cat Hmmm... I agree that a TV series would capture a lot more of the essence of Delirium, but I'm still kind of iffy on the concept. Plus, my worst fear is that the actor who plays Alex is nothing at all like Alex and I'll go insane. Of course, everyone imagines him differently in their mind, so...


message 1345: by Andrea (new) - rated it 5 stars

Andrea Alex better be hot hahaha ....I agree with what you're saying


message 1346: by Cat (new) - rated it 3 stars

Cat Andrea wrote: "Alex better be hot hahaha ....I agree with what you're saying"

Imagine an actor you supremely hate playing him. What would you do?


message 1347: by Emma (new) - rated it 5 stars

Emma I have nothing against Julian, in fact I love him but think I would go with Alex because he was Lena's first love and he was the original one


message 1348: by Andrea (new) - rated it 5 stars

Andrea Oh god!!! Idk it would drive me insane!!! There's another thread about actors that could portray the characters and none of the ones suggested for Alex live up to my expectations...I'm just crazy about this fictional character


message 1349: by Emma (new) - rated it 5 stars

Emma I know exactly hat your saying


message 1350: by Cat (new) - rated it 3 stars

Cat Andrea wrote: "Oh god!!! Idk it would drive me insane!!! There's another thread about actors that could portray the characters and none of the ones suggested for Alex live up to my expectations...I'm just crazy a..."

IKR!!!!! I hate all the suggestions they were spouting--"Let's Cast Delirium", right?--so I banned myself from going on there, or else I'd spread hateful comments! I can't imagine Alex as any living actor, he's just like this godly boy in my mind. ;)


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