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Alex or Julian???
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Alex!Alex!Alex!Alex!Alex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG Lena has bee through so much for him, she thought he was dead! I would NEVER even CONSIDER being with someone else after being through so much with Alex. So what Julian was there at the time but he only fell for Lena because he's never had contact with any other girl. If I saw Alex after all that time I would grab hold of him and NEVER EVER EVER let go!!!!!!!!
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Julian. Alex is different now and Lena has kinda moved on. Julian is also a much better person than Alex was.
How is Julian a much better person than Alex?
I want Lena to stay with Alex but lets be realistic she won't ..she will either stay with Julian or alone. We all know Lauren likes tragic stories
***SPOILERS****** ALEX!!!! <3333 Don't get me wrong i love julian, but alex was her first love. He showed lena what love is. His relationship with her was real. I think Julian is just expiramenting, and seeing what it feels likE. Plus, Lena can't move on that fast, for all she knew, alex was quite alive, and he is. I think julian and lena are both very confused, its not love, it's loneliness.
Jessica (or Jessie or Jess) wrote: "I'm team alex. After reading Pandemonium I thought that Julian didn't seem real in the book. Julian's just the person who saved her and was stuck with her for ages.Kind of like a fishbowl relashion..."I completely agree with this...they both had noone left in their lives...they were stuck in a room together for DAYYYSSSS what do you expect?
I think the likelihood of Lena and Alex ending up together is relatively slim, maybe she won't end up with either. Xxx
He seems nicer, and less harsh than I think Alex is right now. Although Alex may be the same and maybe I'm wrong, its just that I think I like Julian better.
Brienne wrote: "Mehhh. I wish Alex and Lena would end up together but the thing is.... she'll probably end up alone because i feel like Julians Cancer will come back. Im sorry to those who like Julian but what is ..."We don't go for the obvious choice just because Alex was Lena's first love. Sorry but i have yet to see any good reason to prefer Alex, i like Julian better, i just do, I never really connected with Alex. xxx
ALEX! he gave up sooo much to help lena go to the wilds, escape, i couldn't believe it when she started to fall for Julian. i really like both Julian and Alex and feel horrible for them both, but when i look at who cared for Lena more i think Alex is perfect!
TEAM ALEX!!! He's just too kind and has suffered too much to not be with Lena. Although I think he deserves better. He's just too perfect!!!
Hi, everyone. It's been a while, and before I kept posting about how I was such a Team Alex fan. Well, I still am. But now I think Julian and Lena belong together. Maybe Alex is just too good for Lena. After all the hell he suffered, I just don't think he should go back to her after she threw him away so easily. And who knows? Maybe Coral is a better match for Alex than Lena ever was. Jut got to wait, ah, five more months till Requiem comes out! ;)
WAIT STOP- who the hell is Coral?!
Ellen wrote: "WAIT STOP- who the hell is Coral?!"Are you talking to me? Well, a couple of months ago, a link popped up on here and supposedly, a new girl named Coral is going to steal Alex away from Lena. I was really mad about it at first and threw a rage, but hey, this might be a good thing.
No. NOAP. First of all, I have a book-crush on Alex so he and Lena have to end up together because I said so. Secondly, I don't like the name Coral. Therefore, Lena > Coral.
Ellen wrote: "No. NOAP. First of all, I have a book-crush on Alex so he and Lena have to end up together because I said so. Secondly, I don't like the name Coral. Therefore, Lena > Coral."Ha ha, you remind me of myself just a week or two ago. Trust me, I love Alex beyond compare--I cried for nearly an hour after the book's end and his death. Then I threw a rage for that. Then I scribbled in my notebook until I couldn't write anymore. And then, I couldn't stop falling for every guy named Alex who walked past me. But I firmly believe now that the delirious anger and passion and hate has cleared from my mind that Julian and Lena will be better together. Alex deserves someone better. Hell, he needs someone better. If Coral's as bad as I thought she was at first, then let's set fire to all the books, but Alex going back to Lena? No. Not happening in my world!
Catherine wrote: "Ellen wrote: "No. NOAP. First of all, I have a book-crush on Alex so he and Lena have to end up together because I said so. Secondly, I don't like the name Coral. Therefore, Lena > Coral."Ha ha, ..."
Okay I do get your point but Alex loves Lena and even if she doesn't deserve him, he won't be happy with someone else. But if he is happy with this girl Coral then I totally agree although Lena should be left alone! just can't believe she hurt such a nice guy like Alex!!!
Annie wrote: "Catherine wrote: "Ellen wrote: "No. NOAP. First of all, I have a book-crush on Alex so he and Lena have to end up together because I said so. Secondly, I don't like the name Coral. Therefore, Lena..."Yup, that's exactly what I was getting at. If he loves Lena, let it be. Let them fight, and we'll see who comes out victorious. If he doesn't love Lena--because remember, he's changed, the end of Pandemonium so clearly knocks that blow into your head--then let him be with Coral if it is right. If neither works out, then the hell with it! What the heck is wrong with someone who won't give sweet, sweet Alex love?
Coral!?!?!? Who is that bitch!
Andrea wrote: "Coral!?!?!? Who is that bitch!"Aah. Not again.
Who is coral ??! can someone please answer this :))
Is a girl that is gonna appear in requiem... And Alex is gonna start feeling something for her... I think :)
I made peace with the whole Coral and Alex thing...I just want Alex to be happy :)
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Andrea wrote: "I made peace with the whole Coral and Alex thing...I just want Alex to be happy :)"Exactly I just want Alex to have the happy ending he deserves. At the end of Delirium he sacrificed himself for Lena's safety then at the end of Pandemonium he walks in on Lena smooching up some other guy. I hope at the end of Requiem he finally gets his happy ending :')
Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Andrea wrote: "I made peace with the whole Coral and Alex thing...I just want Alex to be happy :)"Exactly I just want Alex to have the happy ending he deserves. At the end of Delirium he sacrific..."
yes! I dont care if he doesnt end up with Lena (he is too good for her)...I just want his happiness
Andrea wrote: "Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Andrea wrote: "I made peace with the whole Coral and Alex thing...I just want Alex to be happy :)"Exactly I just want Alex to have the happy ending he deserves. At th..."
I know I better get the tissues ready for Requiem lol but I found a reveiw online and this is what it said about the ending...there are no spoilers though:
Lauren Oliver's Requiem feels far less like the conclusion of a trilogy than the third book of a tetralogy. Readers who are comfortable with ambiguity will enjoy the ending, and readers who want to know what *exactly* happened, and to whom, and who survives and who doesn't, and what will happen next will likely be very disappointed. Many novels begin in media res, but this one kind of ends there. I'm fine with that. I'd rather have an ambiguous ending than one whose ends are tied up too neatly or implausibly. And to be honest, I'm not so enamored of this series that I really care all that much. I'm mildly curious to know what happens to Lena, Grace, Alex, Hana, and Julian after the book ends, but it's not the sort of thing that will keep me up at night. It is the sort of ending that will inspire much fanfic, though.
Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Andrea wrote: "Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Andrea wrote: "I made peace with the whole Coral and Alex thing...I just want Alex to be happy :)"Exactly I just want Alex to have the happy ending he ..."
Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Andrea wrote: "Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Andrea wrote: "I made peace with the whole Coral and Alex thing...I just want Alex to be happy :)"
Exactly I just want Alex to have the happy ending he ..."
Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Andrea wrote: "Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Andrea wrote: "I made peace with the whole Coral and Alex thing...I just want Alex to be happy :)"
Exactly I just want Alex to have the happy ending he ..."
Thats the same review I read this morning...it just made me more anxious!
Andrea wrote: "Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Andrea wrote: "Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Andrea wrote: "I made peace with the whole Coral and Alex thing...I just want Alex to be happy :)"Exactly I just want Alex..."
I know me too! WHY LARUEN OLIVER DO YOU DO THIS TO US!
I KNEW ALEX WASN'T DEAD BUT I DONT KNOW WHO LENA SHOULD BE WITH
Andrea wrote: "I made peace with the whole Coral and Alex thing...I just want Alex to be happy :)"Exactly how I feel. First I was really angry, then really sad, and then the deliria cleared away so I think properly. All I've ever wanted is for Alex is be happy. And that's what love is anyway. Loving someone enough to let them go.
Alex, alex, alex!!!!!Julian is a creeper...
Natasha wrote: "Who is coral ??! can someone please answer this :))"I know who Coral is, I'm reading Requiem:)
How can you be reading requiem?
Damn! Lucky you! Let us know if it is worth the wait! We are dying for March!!!
SSSOOO GOOD! I haven't finished it though! So far definetly worth the wait!
Now I feel like crying!! :(
AAAHHHH DON'T!!
After reading a few (AKA several) pages clogged up primarily with Team Alex posts, I figured it was time to add at least another supporter to the ranks of Team Julian. I finished the book an hour or so ago (because when I read Delirium a year ago, I didn't think there would be a sequel and didn't find out until a few days ago... I dunno, it just feels complete the way it is to me.) and now find myself on Julian's side. Don't get me wrong, I like Alex. He's a nice guy, introduced Lena to love and all that good stuff, but he never seemed to completely click for me. Lena loved him, probably still loves him, but there are still quite a couple things leading me to question how much she actually likes him. I mean- she didn't even make a huge effort to find out of he was alive. He could have ended up in the Crypts like a ton of other people! For her to basically accept his death so easily was a bit... unfeeling, though, that's not really the right word. Hmmm... Well, the point is that she actually seemed to love him, really love him, and I liked the pairing in Delirium. But if she gave up that easily, I doubt the strength of her love. And both characters appear to have changed big time in the course of the second book, so, chances are, they're not going to be as lovey-dovey as before.Now that that first blob of thought is out of the way, let's talk about Julian, who is obviously the underdog, and, if we follow the popular love triangle pattern, is probably going to lose out on this love war. But it doesn't mean I can't support him (I always seem to go for the underdog... *sigh* still pissed about Katniss ending up with Peeta.) and love the pairing. My favorite part about this pairing is Julian's naivety- I personally found it adorable that Lena had to guide him into love, into feeling, into not being a robot incapable of anything but following pre-made commands. It was remarkedly similar in a way to how Alex led Lena into love- she was afraid of it, she wanted to cure, but he showed her not to be afraid of love. Julian was scared of her, of the disease, and even had her same fear of being somewhat afraid of the cure. He even mentions having nightmares and hoping they'll go away! And how Alex and Lena both reveal that they're Invalids... ... *sigh* It's practically the same relationship, with the roles reversed. However, Julian and Lena are much more alike than Alex and Lena- they know what it is like to fear love, to be freed from the fear of it, and to embrace it. Both entered into their relationship uncertainly, slowly opening up to each other and transforming the other- mainly Lena transforms Julian though. He goes from an untrusting, selfish, cowardly prick (though... I love those kinds of characters. <3 They're so interesting) into a caring, brave, trusting guy in the course of days. He was so in love with her that he didn't even fight death, didn't even fight his execution. He finally understood why people didn't want the cure- why they chose death over the cure. And Lena was willing to sacrifice herself for him, even though she was convinced the attempt would be useless and likely get herself killed in the process. She didn't have the weeks she'd had with Alex- the bond between Lena and Julian is just as strong and was able to form in a much shorter time. And it's not a completely survival-based love as it kind of appears to be- they learn so much about each other, giving up some of their closest secrets and discovering what kind of person the other really is. They do love each other, and their love is adorable. It's so cute when the guy is all innocent and unknowing... (just like FerrisWheelshipping. *is shot*)
Though, as far as my opinion as the love triangle as a whole goes... SERIOUSLY?! Is there not ONE popular series without one of these things anymore? Sheesh... It's probably going to kill me. Luckily for me, Delirium does not seem capable of reducing me to tears, and I doubt it will, so the only true threat to my mental stability is the end of Clockwork Princess, which I am sure will leave me crying for days. (Team Jem! *is shot* Told you I always go for the underdog... Unintentionally too...)
Julian. Julian Julian! Definitely Julian. He really cares for Lena and tbh Lena didn't know Alex was alive, but Alex knew Lena was alive. It was Alex's fault Lena got over him. She moved on, and I don't think it's fair to Lena or Julian for Alex to come charging in.
Erin wrote: "Julian. Julian Julian! Definitely Julian. He really cares for Lena and tbh Lena didn't know Alex was alive, but Alex knew Lena was alive. It was Alex's fault Lena got over him. She moved on, and I ..."how can you say she "moved on" she couldn't stop thinking about Alex through the whole book
Aeyra wrote: "After reading a few (AKA several) pages clogged up primarily with Team Alex posts, I figured it was time to add at least another supporter to the ranks of Team Julian. I finished the book an hour o..."Wow although I could argue with that I give you serious kudos for having actually good and valid reasons about how Julian is the better choice. Your not like these other team Julians who are all like "I like Julian because he and Lena are good together" ugh so annoying. I never thought about his puppy dog mentality being a cute thing and how they understand each other both being born into the "love is a bad thing" world.
Uhh huh although I still beleive that Alex is the better choice (for many reasons but I'm supposed to be doing school work haha xD but you said you read through all the posts so I think you saw my veiws anyway) I won't be completely mad if she ends up with Julian as long as the love triangle is exucted properly *cough* unlike Mokingjay *cough* and Julian mans up thanks to this post. However, it all comes down to Requiem (although I already know the end hehe >xD)
I'd have to go with Alex. It's not because I disliked Julian, it's only because I never connected with him like I did Alex. I felt like Lena and Julian were rushed and almost forced. And that, they were thrown into some outrageous circumstances that made them think it's love, but it's only from going through something traumatic together. Of course that would make two people bond, but that doesn't mean you're in love.I felt as though Julian's acceptance of a world where "deliria" wasn't all that natural. Yes, he was questioning it, kind of, before he met Lena, but he still wanted the cure. I don't believe someone who has a father in the DFA and taught the cure was the only way to live would change his mind after spending one week with someone. I don't know, it just seemed too sudden a change.
That's mostly why I'm for Alex. Alex's pros would be, he knows the life of the Wilds more, he's had a connection with Lena that goes beyond just spending one week with her. He knows about her mother, he knows about her life before. He had moments and times with her that weren't too serious.
With Julian, it was always "on". With Alex, while they had to sneak around, they were also able to have their downtime at the house and play games.
All that said, Alex could be a completely different person now. Not the same Alex as before.
To summarize: Didn't connect with Julian.
I love Alex!! I like Julian, but i prefer Alex
I don't like Alex, I don't hate him but I don't like him. SO JULIAN, but let's be honest, this book wasn't very good
Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Aeyra wrote: "After reading a few (AKA several) pages clogged up primarily with Team Alex posts, I figured it was time to add at least another supporter to the ranks of Team Julian. I finished the ..."WOW what tell me the end woman, send me a message save me money on buying the book, i like the series but alli really care about is the ending, its just one of THOSE series' for me, you know the ones you read out of basic curiosity. xxx ;)
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