Pandemonium (Delirium, #2) Pandemonium discussion


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Alex or Julian???

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message 1151: by B.L. (new)

B.L. Jones Chris wrote: "BridieJDRAGON wrote: "Lenasheathes wrote: "Chris wrote: "How many first loves end in forever love? Just because Alex was the first love it doesn't logically mean that he was The One Love for Lena...."

I just thought it had to be said. Gotta love a bit of backwards logic right ;) xxx


message 1152: by Sierra (last edited Oct 08, 2012 09:37AM) (new)

Sierra ALEX, ALEX, ALEX. I NEVER connected with julian. He seems like a poor little baby to me. He will never be able to survive in the wilds. But Alex has lived ther for like the first 10 years of his life. LENA PICK ALEX!!!!


message 1153: by Temi (new) - rated it 4 stars

Temi Oladeji OK, Alex never grew as a character, he went in a rebel and came out a rebel. Julian did, and It was probably harder for him. How could u people not luv Julian, com'on! He's this sweet kid how grew so much because he loved Lena. Alex taught Lena how to love, but Julian will teach her that love conquers love...sorry I'm a romantic.


message 1154: by Cam (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cam Garza Temi wrote: "OK, Alex never grew as a character, he went in a rebel and came out a rebel. Julian did, and It was probably harder for him. How could u people not luv Julian, com'on! He's this sweet kid how grew ..."

I so agree with you, I love Julian for who he became and how like Lena, he too learned to love and I don't know I think that Lena and Julian connect better.


message 1155: by Cam (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cam Garza Ava wrote: "I love them both, I really honestly do. But of course there is only one for Lena, and I am going to have to say that I'm Team Alex on that matter. No matter how much she loves Julian, there will al..."

I don't know I thought Hanna had gone through the cure already.


message 1156: by Cam (last edited Oct 08, 2012 06:38PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cam Garza Nichole wrote: "Lenasheathes wrote: "Nichole wrote: "I love Alex...and I'm not very happy that Lena had written him off as dead. When she saw what her society was capable of with holding her mother prisoner and al..."

I don't understand, then why did she help Lena at the end of Delirium or was it just an act and Alex came on his own?


message 1157: by Rachel (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rachel Baang Ava wrote: "I love them both, I really honestly do. But of course there is only one for Lena, and I am going to have to say that I'm Team Alex on that matter. No matter how much she loves Julian, there will al..."

I totally agree with this.


message 1158: by B.L. (new)

B.L. Jones Reich wrote: "Ava wrote: "I love them both, I really honestly do. But of course there is only one for Lena, and I am going to have to say that I'm Team Alex on that matter. No matter how much she loves Julian, t..."

I'd argue that just because someone is your first love it doesn't mean they are the love of your life. Xxx


message 1159: by Chris (new) - rated it 5 stars

Chris Campbell Temi wrote: "OK, Alex never grew as a character, he went in a rebel and came out a rebel. Julian did, and It was probably harder for him. How could u people not luv Julian, com'on! He's this sweet kid how grew ..."

I like the way you put this and agree whole heartedly!


message 1160: by Roksana (new) - rated it 4 stars

Roksana This isnt hard for me ALEX is my choice.

I couldnt care less about Julian....he is nice, but I dont know...I just didnt feel any thing for him. Alex was intense, barve, strong and he gave up his life (or so we thought) for Lena. Julian kinda clinged to Lena to stay alive!

I dont know...but Alex!!!


message 1161: by Molly (new) - rated it 5 stars

Molly Omg! How can you choose Julian! Alex is like the most awesome boy in this book!


message 1162: by B.L. (new)

B.L. Jones Roksana wrote: "This isnt hard for me ALEX is my choice.

I couldnt care less about Julian....he is nice, but I dont know...I just didnt feel any thing for him. Alex was intense, barve, strong and he gave up his l..."


I get that, but my opinion is the complete opposite, i think Julian will be the stronger person in the end and will be Lena's respectful equal, plus he has blue eyes and i fall for blue eyes every time. ;) xxx


message 1163: by Kaylah (last edited Oct 11, 2012 11:12AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kaylah BridieJDRAGON

I agree! I loved Alex, but by the time I really met Julian in Pandemonium I had accepted his death. Not just that but I do think that something happened to Alex and he's changed. I'm thinkin him and Hana get together... Just a geuss though ;)


message 1164: by [deleted user] (last edited Oct 10, 2012 05:00PM) (new)

Anjali wrote: "Lenasheathes wrote: "Anjali wrote: "Julian with all of my heart!!! He didn't let Lena think he was dead and then come back and act like a jerk."

I don't think that's fair I mean for one he was in ..."


Nichole wrote: "Chris wrote: "How many first loves end in forever love? Just because Alex was the first love it doesn't logically mean that he was The One Love for Lena. I like both characters, even though Julia..."

Yes. Coral girl. I hope she gets put of the picture ASAP but I no Alex he will hold out for Lena even if he's acting mad


message 1165: by [deleted user] (new)

Sierra wrote: "ALEX, ALEX, ALEX. I NEVER connected with julian. He seems like a poor little baby to me. He will never be able to survive in the wilds. But Alex has lived ther for like the first 10 years of his li..."

THANK YOU someone who understands >_< *happy dance*


message 1166: by [deleted user] (new)

Camila wrote: "Nichole wrote: "Lenasheathes wrote: "Nichole wrote: "I love Alex...and I'm not very happy that Lena had written him off as dead. When she saw what her society was capable of with holding her mother..."


She "helped" them because shes a back stabbing lying cheating jerk


message 1167: by Molly (new) - rated it 5 stars

Molly Go Alex Team! :)


message 1168: by Natasha (new) - rated it 4 stars

Natasha Temi wrote: "OK, Alex never grew as a character, he went in a rebel and came out a rebel. Julian did, and It was probably harder for him. How could u people not luv Julian, com'on! He's this sweet kid how grew ..."

ok well we dont know if alex came out a rebell i mean its obvious that he is but he still could have changed while he was gone. i loove julian and all but i just dont see him with lena.


message 1169: by Sierra (new)

Sierra Temi wrote: "OK, Alex never grew as a character, he went in a rebel and came out a rebel. Julian did, and It was probably harder for him. How could u people not luv Julian, com'on! He's this sweet kid how grew ..."

sorry but i disagree.


message 1170: by Sierra (new)

Sierra Reich wrote: "Ava wrote: "I love them both, I really honestly do. But of course there is only one for Lena, and I am going to have to say that I'm Team Alex on that matter. No matter how much she loves Julian, t..."

I tots agree too


message 1171: by Amy (new) - rated it 2 stars

Amy Barrow IS THERE A SEQUEL TO THIS BOOK? Where we can find out?


message 1172: by Sheyenne (last edited Oct 12, 2012 12:33PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sheyenne Julian is just a big bucket of blue eyed pity I'm sorry but he is. Alex is such a stronger character. Julian is just kind of a big puppy if he and Lena get together she will have to take care of him lol xD
Seriously though what do you see in Julian yes I know he went against everything he had been taught yadda yadda but the fact of the matter is if Lena wasn't there to take care of him then he would be dead because he didn't have the courage or ambition to look for ways to stay alive. Yes I know his father had an iron grip on him but the crypts had an iron grip on Alex but he's out you know why? Because Alex actually wants to stay alive and will fight to do it and won't just sit around looking at pictures.of being free (I know I'm being harsh but COME ON!) Yes I know Alex was born in the Wilds but still even if he wasn't Alex is one of those people that would actually look for a way out.
Julian is just to fragile for me I need a real man. ;)


message 1173: by [deleted user] (new)

Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Julian is just a big bucket of blue eyed pity I'm sorry but he is. Alex is such a stronger character. Julian is just kind of a big puppy if he and Lena get together she will have to take care of hi..."

EXACTLY thank u an ur back!!!!! How do u like FL???


message 1174: by Kaylah (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kaylah Amy wrote: "IS THERE A SEQUEL TO THIS BOOK? Where we can find out?"

Yah, Requiem is the Third in the trilogy. SO EXCITED!


message 1175: by Mares (last edited Oct 12, 2012 08:33PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mares That has got to be one of the single most difficult questions to answer. EVER! it's just so hard to decide, because they're both so great. *sigh* I guess I will be happy with either one in the end, but then i'll feel so sorry for the other one....
its a vicious cycle...


palbameca Alex is the best!!! I love him!!


message 1177: by [deleted user] (new)

ALEX!! i absolutely fell in love with the characters and series!! This was my first real YA book and after reading it i couldnt get enough!!! i really am wondering if Alex still wants Lena??? grr.. i hope so!! i can NOT wait for Requiem to see what happens!! and i must say, i loved the second book, but not as much as the first! i know with the plot and aspect of the second it would be harder too, but i missed Alex and Lena's romance the whole time!!


message 1178: by B.L. (last edited Oct 19, 2012 04:43PM) (new)

B.L. Jones Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Julian is just a big bucket of blue eyed pity I'm sorry but he is. Alex is such a stronger character. Julian is just kind of a big puppy if he and Lena get together she will have to take care of hi..."

I really dont know where this view that Julian is weak is coming from, he seemed pretty strong to me, he dealt with things really well, the only reason Lena seemed more in charge is because she'd been living in the wilds, not everyone is born in the wilds like Alex that doesn't make them weak characters, I'm pretty sure Julian will be a very strong character in the future now that he's in the wilds with Lena, it takes a lot of strength to abandon everything to you know about life for love, at least I think so. ;) x


message 1179: by Joyce (new) - rated it 3 stars

Joyce Allen Alex for the win!


Kimberly Genest JULIAN!!


message 1181: by Ashley (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ashley Alex! I like Julian, but I find that he'd be better as Lena's friend instead of her boyfriend. Plus i think that Alex is her epic love :)


Sheyenne BridieJDRAGON wrote: "Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Julian is just a big bucket of blue eyed pity I'm sorry but he is. Alex is such a stronger character. Julian is just kind of a big puppy if he and Lena get together she..."

I know i know he went against everything he knew definetly a strong move but he still to fragile.for me he better man up in Requiem xD


message 1183: by Daline (new) - rated it 5 stars

Daline i'm really looking forward to how this love triangle plays out in the third book.


message 1184: by Clary (new) - rated it 2 stars

Clary A ALEX!!!


message 1185: by B.L. (new)

B.L. Jones Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "BridieJDRAGON wrote: "Sheyenne Sheathes ;) wrote: "Julian is just a big bucket of blue eyed pity I'm sorry but he is. Alex is such a stronger character. Julian is just kind of a big puppy if he and..."

Yeah and Alex better not act like a tosser ;) x


message 1186: by Georgia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Georgia Cruz Julian! :)


Kristen ⭐️ (beansbooktrove) I definitely say Alex. I love Julian, I do! But he seems more like a brother figure. Definitely going with Alex. You can go wrong with that amber hair <3


message 1188: by Kaeri (new) - rated it 4 stars

Kaeri I like Alex more. Julian never grew on me... I dunno, I guess it's my preference in guys. Alex is the protector. Julian is the one who's protected by Lena... So I'd go for Alex.


message 1189: by Kathryn (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kathryn Alex!!!!!!! Julian's a wimp.


message 1190: by Nicole (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nicole Actually...Lena should just die alone. She doesn't deserve either. BUT, I hate Julian, cause he's really lame...she should be with him, BUT Alex deserves to be happy so YOU KNOW.. I DON'T KNOW. I'M UNDECIDED.


message 1191: by B.L. (last edited Oct 24, 2012 08:15AM) (new)

B.L. Jones STOP BULLYING JULIAN PEOPLE, Alex is so....boring and uncomplicated, i feel like i've read his character so many times before, i mean COME ON- he loves poetry, is 'mysterious', he's a hero to the max blah blah blah, nothing origional there, its not that i dont like a mysterious and badass love interest, i like them a lot actually, but for me Alex had no edge, nothing that made him stand out to make me love him, sorry people, Julian may not be perfect, but he is brave and blue eyes get me every time, and he's not like EVERY OTHER LOVE INTEREST IN YA LITERATURE EVER, got to love that ;) xxx


message 1192: by Katy (new) - rated it 3 stars

Katy Alison wrote: "okay...someone had to start this...so i guess i will.

I know the majority of people out there are probably going with Alex, and honestly, I thought I would be too, but I just finished reading Pand..."


Although I am a fan of Alex, I like your point of view on this. You bring up good points about Julian. I just think Lauren rushed that romance a bit...it seemed awkward...forced.


message 1193: by Katy (new) - rated it 3 stars

Katy Giorgia wrote: "ALEX!!!"
I agree. I just don't understand how she could LOVE Alex in August, and in March be in love with someone else. Especially after he died for her. It makes me sad because I loved Delirium so much...but after she turns so quickly to someone else in Pandemonium, I feel like that is not love at all. Just a teenage crush. How do you go from wanting to die without someone, to being in love again in a matter of months?


message 1194: by Chana (new) - rated it 5 stars

Chana for me JULIAN finger crossed as once said by JOHNNY DEPP
'if you love two people at the same time, choose the second. Because if you really loved the first one, you wouldn't have fallen for the second.”


message 1195: by Chana (new) - rated it 5 stars

Chana Alison wrote: "Debora wrote: "I just have to say that while I was reading that last page I just couldn`t stop screaming `OH MY GOD !` ! LOL ! And I hate to say it but I`m hoping she ends up with Julian.
Don`t get..."


Same here dude !!!!


Jessica It's always hard to stray from the first guy you've loved but I've got to go with Julian here. Alex opened her eyes to the Deliria and the possibility of a free life and you can never thank him enough for that.

However, i agree with others who've said that moving on from your first love is good and Lena has said that she is more comfortable with Julian than Lena and I agree that they do have more in common in a sense. but sometimes that doesn't matter.

Also, both love affairs have been so short that it is hard to tell what is right. There is a greater bond with Alex merely because they were together longer.

Even though its tough i think she's got to go with her heart and her heart was already saying she felt more comfortable with Julian than Alex after one of their first few times touching so I've gotta lean to Julian for her.


message 1197: by Arianne (new) - rated it 3 stars

Arianne Velasquez ALEX. No question.


message 1198: by Natasha (new) - rated it 4 stars

Natasha ALEX. ALEX. ALEX. ALEX. ALEX. ALEX i love his character soo much their relationship was so sweet and i just dont see her with julian. i mean i love him too but alex is the best


message 1199: by Patrí (new) - rated it 5 stars

Patrí Chinese wrote: "for me JULIAN finger crossed as once said by JOHNNY DEPP
'if you love two people at the same time, choose the second. Because if you really loved the first one, you wouldn't have fallen for the se..."



THIS! So it's JULIAN.


message 1200: by Arianne (new) - rated it 3 stars

Arianne Velasquez Patricia Marie wrote: "Chinese wrote: "for me JULIAN finger crossed as once said by JOHNNY DEPP
'if you love two people at the same time, choose the second. Because if you really loved the first one, you wouldn't have f..."


Well, she thought Alex was dead so... :)


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