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Week 113- (Feb 22nd-29th) stories--- Topic: PROMPT DONE
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I've never read Tremendous Trifles, so I don't know if the oft-quoted version is Chesterton's own restatement of the paragraph or a paraphrase by people who don't want to say all that out.
I'll probably use that one.




Do it, Al. Always go with your gut for writing things :D I've stayed out of so much trouble with my characters by going with my gut. And right now my gut it telling me I need food, lol. I'll be right back.

Yeah, I've gotten into some trouble with that too, but I've avoided more XD I was going to kill Kirilee in the end of the first one, but, she wouldn't talk to me for like a month, and I had writers block from then on, until I revamped it so she just had to loose her Fire ability. There, Kirilee, take that!
I'm looking forward to reading it, too....it sounds like something that could use the spice of a death, or a Frank XD


Just kidding. This is a much better ending.



Eh, then again, it does move from one point to another, so I guess it could be considered a story. Scene or story, I liked it. Nice and simple.
I didn't like yours, Al. We kind of get she's moving in circles; stories are better when the person moving in a circle somehow moves out of the circle (either by being forced out of complacancy or by overcoming some block). I suppose it's hard to fit that with the quote.
I usually like your stories, but not this one. Frank does have a weakness (perhaps several), and at some point it has to be exploited.

You're right about the getting out of the circle thing.
Okay, this story I'm writing has a lot of swearing. Some of it is a sampling from what I've heard (in order from least to worst) on the bus, from twelve-year-olds, and from Marines on duty. I'm going to have to tone it down somehow.

Kat, I really like the writing in “Not Even the Rain.” It’s very relaxing, though I don’t know just what it is about it that makes it that way. It has an introspective quality. I found myself wishing it were longer, not so much because I was interested in the narrative but because I wanted to read more of the writing.

Someone else quoted it as Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed.
What Chesterton actually said was What fairy tales give the child is his first clear idea of the possible defeat of bogey. The baby has known the dragon intimately ever since he had an imagination. What the fairy tale provides for him is a St. George to kill the dragon. and it is in Tremendous Trifles

That happens to me all the time. I usually have several writing projects I’m working on at once, though. When I get snagged on one, I just switch to another one.

That's why I included all of them.

By Lydia M.
Word Count: 1,005
“‘Fairy Tales are more than true: not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.’ Who said that?”
“Uhhhh....” I looked up from my magazine to stare at the wall across the room from me. “Well.. I think it was...”
“G.K. Chesterton?” my sister inquired.
“No way. Sounds too.. I don’t know.”
“I wasn’t giving a suggestion. That was the answer. G.K. Chesterton said that quote.”
“Seriously?”
“I thought you said you were good with quotes.” my sister shook her head slightly.
“I am... With quotes I know.” I replied, focusing my attention on the text in the magazine.
“Which means you only know quotes that were said from hot actors.”
“Does not.”
“Okay then. Tell me something that Gandhi said.”
“Uh...” I stuttered.
“Point in case.” my sister muttered.
“You don’t know either.” I looked up to see my sister’s smug smile. “Never mind. Pretend I didn’t say that.”
The door flew open and my step mother walked in carrying a load of groceries.
“Darcy? Jessica? What are you two doing here? Aren’t you supposed to be at school?”
Darcy jumped up to help her while I responded, “No. It’s Sunday, Aliza.”
Darcy glared at me for calling our step mom by her first name but Aliza just bit her lip and nodded to herself. She was quite absentminded.
“Where’s your father?”
“Out on patrol.” Darcy said before I could. “We were just testing each other on quotes.”
“Ah yes. ‘What are men to rocks and mountains?’” Aliza breathed out.
“Jane Austen. Pride and Prejudice.” I grabbed several bags and headed into the kitchen. “See, Darcy? I knew that one.”
“Only because mom quotes it all the time.” Darcy said following behind me. I hated to admit it but she was right. Aliza was a total quote freak. She filled up her head with them; I guess that’s why she forgot everything else.
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That night a storm was brewing. My father joked about putting chalk under our pillow so we wouldn’t have bad dreams. It was an old superstitious tale in our town: when a thunderstorm appeared Phobetor, Greek god of nightmares, was angry and he would punish all of us for it. It was all fake and nobody actually knew why chalk was involved.
So it was all coincidental that I had a nightmare that night.
I found myself in my high school gym, staring at our mascot painted on the wall. The dragon. Keeper of the legends of our small town.
“Jess!” I turned to see a girl standing by the gym door. Her figure was blurred and I couldn’t make out her features. As I started to walk over to her she sprinted out the door and slammed it behind her. I rushed to the door on impulse and tugged at the handle. It was locked.
I heard a growl behind me and turned to see a massive beast behind me, pulling itself out of the picture on the wall. The dragon turn towards me and breathed fire into the air. I could feel the heat from where I was, and my knees grew weak. It started to lumber over to where I stood. It’s tail swished back and forth, smacking against air and brick. My heart seemed to beat to that rhythm.
The dragon’s warm breath hit my face and I could smell... Dog food?
I woke to find Darcy’s dog sitting on me, breathing straight into my face.
“Ugh!” I sat up in my bed as the dog bounced onto the floor and raced out the door. A laugh sounded and I looked up to see Darcy standing in my doorway.
“Sweet dreams?” she asked. “Hurry up. You’re going to miss the bus.”
“You say that like it’s a bad thing.” I mumbled.
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40 minutes later found me sitting in my English class. My teacher, Ms. Lake was rambling on about something and more then one student’s head was dropped in sleep. I started to doodle in my blank notebook that I was supposed to be filling with important notes. It started out as random shapes but quickly turned into something I knew too well. A dragon stared out from the page, as if taunting me.
“Jessica?”
My head shot up to see Ms. Lake looking at me expectantly.
“I’m sorry. Could you repeat that?” I asked, faking a sweet smile. Giggles erupted among the class until my teacher silenced them with a glare.
“Who said ‘Fairy Tales are more than true: not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten’?
“G.K.... Chesterton?” I replied, hoping my memory served me well.
“Why... Yes.” Ms. Lake and my class couldn’t hide their astonishment. I was the stereotypical dumb, pretty, and popular kid. Me getting an answer correct was as common as our cafeteria having good pasta. I felt myself sitting up a little straighter as Ms. Lake continued the lesson.
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I took the bus home alone; Darcy stayed after school to work at the local library. I thought about the quote that had become part of my life as I listened to music. What was my “dragon”? I replayed the last few days in my mind, trying to find something. I was thinking about the day before when I realized what it was. I took out my notebook and
looked at my drawing of the dragon. I no longer saw taunt in his eyes, but instead defeat.
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I could hear Aliza in the kitchen when I came home. She was bustling around, probably making dinner. I set my backpack down in the hall and entered the kitchen.
“Hi, mom.”
She looked up at me, surprised. I bit my lip, nervous, until she started to smile.
“Hello, Jessica. How was your day?”
I started to tell her about it but I wasn’t really thinking it about it. Instead I was celebrating in my head.
I had killed the dragon.

Everything Happens to Everybody
967 words.
Everything happens to everybody sooner or later if there is time enough.George Bernard Shaw
Jack finished watching Groundhog Day. Again. No, it wasn't the groundhog's day, today being only January 15. And at 3:15 pm Jack turned off the Blu-Ray player, as he did every afternoon. Then, after turning off the TV, he turned to look at Jill, the tom cat that was resting his head on its paws on the decrepit couch. It was so long ago that he'd tagged the two of them 'Jack 'n Jill' that the joke no longer brought even a synaptic tickle to smile, nor the urge to remember a time when it did.
Jill's whiskers were twitching to some kind of cat dream. What was he doing, in his dreams? he thought. Chasing mice, maybe? And does he remember them?
What a perfect expression of spiritual growth, he thought as he reached past the empty bags of chips and Chinese takeout boxes to scratch Jill behind his ears. It took comic genius to use an 'overgrown rat' as the inspiration for spiritual enlightenment!
Jack pushed his heavy black rimmed glasses back up his nose, brushed off the remnants of potato chips, nuts and dried noodles off his shirt. He looked out the window. He could see reflected in the blinded window in the building across from his suite that the sky was greyed with dark and threatening clouds. They reminded him of Phil Connor, Murray's weatherman, weathering with dismay his being betrayed by snow filled clouds and his misplaced faith in his meteorological science. Jack laughed. 'Science,' he told the cat, 'thinks that the simplistic act of naming things is enough. Hah! The label of DNA is as explanatory to the why of life as is Allah, Buddha and Anne of Green Gables combined.' Jill had heard this cant many times before, and so continued to dream his little dream of Koi and catfish flicking their tails just out of reach beneath the surface of a sun drenched pond.
From behind him, through the apartment door, Jack heard muffled voices. That's unusual, he thought. He strained his suddenly vicarious ear to hear what was being said. However, except for an odd or partial word or two, all he could distinguish was muffled female voices with a palpable edge of excitement.
Jack pushed himself up from the couch. That was unusual enough to wake Jill who cat-stretched while Jack waded through the ankle deep detritus to plant himself against the door. He looked through the peep hole through which he saw two very tall and large women standing face to face, both vociferously condemning the other and wildly gesticulating to make their points. 'You bitch!' seemed to be the most frequently used phrase as it was used repeatedly by both woman, but without the benefit of any details.
His long dormant and forgotten impulse to help caused his hand to involuntarily reach for the locks. Before he was even aware of what it was doing he'd slid off the chain and clicked open the deadbolt.
The two in the hallway heard the door unlock, and with that cue simultaneously stopped their mutual verbal assaults. Jack did not notice the silence when he opened the door and stepped through the doorway for the first time in many months.
'Excuse me,' he began to say, 'can I —
He didn't see them each swing one of their fists, heavily weighted with a roll of 50 cent coins, to make contact with his face. The combined force sent him flying backwards almost as fast as he was moving towards unconsciousness. As awareness left him his limp mass smashed against the arm of the couch with enough energy to push the couch through the bedroom door. Jill's feline instincts kicked in and he leapt from his end of the couch with the hope of alighting atop of the safe vantage of the high TV. But at least in part from his lack of practice Jill misjudged his strength and the TV's distance. He hit the flat screen full frontal before falling to the floor with stars spinning around his head, just like in the cartoons.
'Okay,' Jill heard a woman's familiar voice say, 'you take the one foot, I'll take the other.' Without quite being able to comprehend fully what he was seeing, it appeared that Jack was being dragged through a wave of garbage by two transvestites with the shoulders and biceps of wannabe bouncers. 'You'd think that this guy would learn,' he heard, 'that not paying the rent is bad business.'
He heard laughter. 'How many times does this make it that we've dragged this sorry ass back to his old man's place? Five, six?' More laughter. 'And every time he falls for it. Every time!'
The three people moved from his line of vision. 'Damn,' Jill heard echo from the hallway 'we can't forget the cat! The last time we did cost us our bonus!' With a peculiar feeling of deja vu Jill struggled to his feet on wobbly legs. He began to fight his way through the thick trash covering the floor back towards the partially destroyed couch. He hoped he would be able to hide under it, although the thought of what else might be under it already gave him an uneasy feeling.
But before he was even half way there he heard a 'Oh no you don't!' and an incredibly strong hand gripped him from under his chest and lifted him into the air. 'Gotcha! You seem to be getting slower, eh, cat?' And more laughter.


Lydia, I'll read your story tonight when I'm not sneaking peaks into here instead of doing my work and can properly concentrate.

I can’t help but wonder who locks Jessica in the gym to face the dragon, and whether it’s intentional on the part of the girl who runs out.
The most interesting thing to me in the story is “My father joked about putting chalk under our pillow so we wouldn’t have bad dreams.”
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Guy, it seems to me that in depth psychology, slaying a monster is metaphorical for what a man must accomplish in order to break the crippling psychological and emotional hold his mother has over him. Do you remember having read anything about that?

I never really think my stories through, so I don't have an answer about the girl who runs out the gym... so you can make something up.
Yeah... I wanted to bring something in about the father so I decided to create a superstitious legened that I could have fun with. Thanks for your feedback! :D

M, as to 'slaying the dragon' it is, like all myths that get examined under analytical psychology's eye, subject to the problem of yin & yang. Eastern myth sees the dragon as generally, although not always, positive. For example, it is considered a boon to be born in the year of the dragon, but creates challenges in the practice of feng shui. In the west, it is often associated with evil, but ambivalently. For example, there are our myths of dragons stealing a community's wealth and then sleeping on it in its den. On the other hand 'taming your dragon' is metaphorical for harnessing your internal energy, your personal 'spark,' so to speak.
[Side note: the myth of the dragon razing a community for its gold is actually a metaphor for how wealth is accumulated by the powerful: the wealth pools in fewer and fewer hands and the community gets poorer and poorer. The metaphor extends with how the elders invariably become the dragon's courtiers who defend the status quo and eventually urge the community to sacrifice their youth to save the community. That very argument was made to prop up the banks in America's recent banking debacle. And the reality of that sacrifice is demonstrated in the underfunding of schools, or, more to the point, in a recent report I saw that claims that about 25% of America's children do not have a secure access to their next meal.
I am bemused by how modern advertising practices create odd conflations, such as in naming a Canadian financier game show 'The Dragon's Den': people come to the wealthy dragons to convince them they are worthy investments, i.e. so their new/youthful ideas can be taken (eaten?) by the 'dragons' and sold to the world. The hope is that the supplicants can convince the financiers that their mousetrap will make everyone rich. End of side note.)
Part of the complexity of the dragon derives from its reptilian roots; the snake is the symbol of renewed life (hence its double presence on the caduceus), the problem of the acquisition of the knowledge of being alive (Eve being tempted by the snake into becoming awake/aware, i.e. alive). In the east this is taken very far, and snakes are becoming threatened with extinction as drinking the blood of a just killed snake is supposed to bring vigour, etc. To be 'on fire' is to be fully alive and to be successful.
The Greek myth of the Hydra (another dragon/serpent) describes the problem of slaying the dragon quite well: each time a head is lopped off, two grow back. It is also interesting that the Hydra was born from Gaia the earth, because that hints of the snake who fed Eve the apple that enslaved humanity to Gaia and banished them from Eden.
So slaying the dragon is doubly interesting and cannot be viewed as either good or bad out of context. In her book [book:The Problem of the Puer Aeternus|1404609] M.L. von Franz describes how Oedipus achieved world acclaim and success when he slew the Egyptian dragon, the Sphinx. He did this when confronted by a riddle which he answers, and when he used his sword to cut the gordian knot. What von Franz elaborates is that this intellectual success (the sword/knife is the intellectual skill needed to split logical hairs and distinguish between things), lead to an ungrounded ego inflation that ultimately led him to kill his father and marry his mother. It is a fascinating argument, and an example of an enantiodromia, where-by the ostensibly good thing becomes its opposite (or vice versa).
I mention this book because it is EXCELLENT — and a serious contender for being a top 5 of the all time must read books before death for anyone interesting in understanding human dynamics. But also because I detected a hint of this in Lydia's story. The protagonist wins the intellectual fight (citing something from memory) with a kind of trick or serendipity (like Oedipus cutting the knot instead of untying it). And, like Oedipus, the protagonist has allowed herself to become something she is not, inflated ego, which will in the normal course of psychological events lead to some kind of fall from grace.
Does that answer your question, M?

I haven’t found what I was looking for, that I had mentioned, but these passages from Chapter III of Jung’s Aion (“The Syzgy: Anima and Animus”) describe the spell that has to be broken by some sort of deed, such as slaying a monster or going a grail quest:
“What, then, is this projection-making factor? The East calls it the ‘Spinning Woman’--Maya, who creates illusion by her dancing. Had we not long since known it from the symbolism of dreams, this hint from the Orient would put us on the right track: the enveloping, embracing, and devouring element points unmistakably to the mother, that is, to the son’s relation to the real mother, to her imago, and to the woman who is to become a mother for him. His Eros is passive like a child’s; he hopes to be caught, sucked in, enveloped, and devoured. He seeks, as it were, the protecting, nourishing, charmed circle of the mother, the condition of the infant released from every care, in which the outside world bends over him and even forces happiness on him. No wonder the real world vanishes from sight!
“If this situation is dramatized, as the unconscious usually dramatizes it, then there appears before you on the psychological stage a man living regressively, seeking his childhood and his mother, fleeing from a cold, cruel world which denies him understanding. Often a mother appears beside him who apparently shows not the slightest concern that her little son should become a man, but who, with tireless and self-immolating effort, neglects nothing that might hinder him from growing up and marrying. You behold the secret conspiracy between mother and son, and how each helps the other to betray life. . . .”
Jung, C. G. Aion: Researches Into the Phenomenology of the Self. Princeton, NJ: Princeton Univ. Press, 1959. (Page 11.)

The nature of the Lydia's story struck me as a cautionary tale more than a heroic voyage because the victory arose by serendipity and not heroics: the protagonist did not step forward and boldly face her fear, stare it in the eyes with shaking knees, and arrive victorious. That is why I rambled on about the ambivalent nature of slaying the dragon: it isn't always the correct thing. Even the nature of the protagonist's being distracted by images of the dragon from attending to life hints at the ambivalence: was this the creative imagination bringing freedom from stultifying schooling, or the illusion of Maya bringing about loss of soul? That the protagonist became inflated by her 'success' suggests the latter.


And not heard of Pygmalian? Yikes, what's the world coming too? Just kidding, of course. However, it is one of the best plays of 20th century English. And the inspiration behind the musical and movie My Fair Lady.

Ah.. okay. Maybe I'll have to reasearch it a little...

For some of us, the most fun thing about reading a story is taking it apart to figure out what makes it tick. I’ve assumed that anybody who posts a story is open to having group members try their analytical skills on it.

And it is a sign of a good story when it sparks discussion and creates argument and searches for understanding/meaning. Especially if the writer did not have anything of the sort in mind when s/he wrote it! It means the story has something substantive or evocative about it. For the cronies like M and myself, our advanced years gives us the ability to bring in references from many different places. As M says, this then becomes a great part of the fun of reading.