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Can we change an approved itinerary? I started reading the first book on my itinerary, but am having trouble finding my copy of the second book. Can I change stop #2 or is that contrary to the spirit of having posted an itinerary?
You are welcome to change an itinerary. Please post the new one here rather than changing the previously posted one.
FYI, I would like the itineraries thread to contain just the approved itineraries for easier reference. So, I am moving the relevant discussion posts to this thread & deleting the old versions of itineraries.
Reposted: Liz M wrote:Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Liz, I see that you're taking Russia for Asia rather than Europe. Yes, it is one of those that crosses two continents."
Oops, itinerary adjusted.
Reposted: Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: Leigh wrote: "Australasia: Australia (E 149 07): Murder on the Ballarat Train
Australasia: New Zealand (E174 46): A Man Lay Dead
North America: Cuba (W 082 23): [book:Ha..."
I fixed the Luiz Alfredo Garcia-Roza profile, but it appears Jassy Mackenzie is responsible for her own profile.
Reposted: Shannon wrote:Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Shannon, you'll note on the latitudes column, that each is preceeded by an E or a W. Thus, US is W77 02, so that if you want to be a circumnavigator, you'll need to place that entry at the end."
Thank you Elizabeth, and sorry about that - I've edited my post no. 18, hope it's okay now - but I'm not sure if I've got the countries in the right order/direction?
Reposted: Liz M wrote:Shannon wrote: "Thank you Elizabeth, and sorry about that - I've edited my post no. 18, hope it's okay now - but I'm not sure if I've got the countries in the right order/direction? ..."
Thanks for the revisions. Almost there -- a few countries have East and West switched (UK should be W 000 07, Australia should be E 149 07) and two countries are out of order -- the UK and Antarctica should switch places and then the US should be the first or last stop. (If you were finding these countries on a globe, you should keep spinning the globe in the same direction to locate their capital cities in the order posted).
Reposted: Erin wrote:Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Erin, you have 3 stops in Europe and the rules state no more than 2 stops per continent."
Ok, I removed 2 of my stops in Europe, and added 1 in Asia and 1 in South America.
Reposted: Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote:Norma, unfortunately James Thompson doesn't work for Finland, as he was born in US and, while he lives in Finland, is not a Finnish national.
Reposted: Liz M wrote:Norma wrote: "East to West
Asia: India E 077 12: The Case of the Missing Servant..."
Unfortunately, Tarquih Hall does not qualify for India: he was born in London, is described as "a British writer and journalist," and divides his time between London and Delhi.
On a side note, Water for Elephants weirdly qualifies for both Canada & the US (born in Canada, Canadian citizenship) (dual US citizenship, US setting).
Please repost your itinerary, when you've made the substitution.
Reposting: Liz M wrote:Carolyn wrote: "Africa: Nigeria (E 007 29) Beasts of No Nation..."
Uzodinma Iweala was born in Washington DC and the setting of the book is "an unnamed West African nation", so it does not qualify for Nigeria.
Reposted: Liz M wrote:Carolyn wrote: "Liz M wrote: "Carolyn wrote: "Africa: Nigeria (E 007 29) Beasts of No Nation..."
Uzodinma Iweala was born in Washington DC and the setting of the book is "an unnamed West African nation", so it do..."
If you are looking for a book set in Africa, for Sudan I recommend Season of Migration to the North by Tayeb Salih or for Nigeria, Half of a Yellow Sun by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
Reposted: Connie wrote:Christin, I hope you don't mind me butting in!
In the list, Russia is in Europe, not Asia.
Maybe Haruki Murakami as a Japanese author or Khaled Hosseini for Afghanistan?
And in post 21 of the AtW Q&A Liz explained why Alexander McCall Smith doesn't work for this challenge... (I was looking at that too!)
Reposted: Connie wrote:Oh, good choices, Christin! The to-read list just keeps on growing with this challenge...
If you liked After Dark, I think you'll love the Wind-up Bird Chronicles, or (which is my favourite novel of his) Hard-boiled Wonderland.
Reposted: Christin wrote:Thanks for the recommendations! I wasn't sure where to start next with his books as I read "After Dark" for a book club ^_^
Reposted: Liz M wrote:itpdx wrote: "Let me see if this flies..."
No pun intended?
Allende is difficult -- She was born in Peru, raised in Chile, and has dual Chilean/American citizenship. She also ha a tendency to set her works in "unnamed Latin American countries" and I can find no evidence that The Stories of Eva Luna takes place specifically in Peru or Chile.
Reposted: itpdx wrote:The pun was intended :)
I thought I saw something about Chile for Eva Luna. Now the only thing I can see says Argentina! I will find a substitute. I think The House of the Spirits is set in Chile.
Reposted: Connie wrote:itpdx wrote: "The pun was intended :)
I thought I saw something about Chile for Eva Luna. Now the only thing I can see says Argentina! I will find a substitute. I think The House of the Spirits is..."
I read Portrait in Sepia a while ago, which is set in Chile, and I see from the description that it's the last part of a trilogy starting with Daughter of Fortune...
Reposted: Liz M wrote:itpdx wrote: "Corrected post
SA: Chile (W070 39) The House of the Spirits by Isabel Allende ..."
I did say Allende was a problematic author, didn't I? I can't find a setting for The House of Spirits:
"Since the historical context of this novel is so important to the action of the story, it's interesting that Isabel Allende chooses to never mention the physical setting by name."
"Around the pages from 40 and up, there's a mention of a city called Lima. Lima is in peru. So I think its in peru, because there is a city in peru if am not mistaken the capital, Lima. "
"settings (place) · Tres Marias and the capital of an unspecified Latin American country."
I do not think this novel will work for AtW.
Reposted: itpdx wrote:You may want to have a librarian correct the GoodReads listing for the book then.
Liz M wrote: "itpdx wrote: "Corrected post
SA: Chile (W070 39) The House of the Spirits by Isabel Allende ..."
I did say Allende was a problematic author, didn't I? I can't find a setting for The House of Spiri..."
Reposted: Liz M wrote:I don't know if this helps, but if you really want to read a book by Allende set in Chile (so as not to disrupt your itinerary), Daughter of Fortune is set in Chile. And if you really want to read The Hose of Spirits, it was made into a movie & can be read for 20.4 - El Ateneo.
The Hose of Spirits? :) Do you turn it in and ghosts fly out? :)
Reposted: itpdx wrote:Totally different goal. I am trying to read books that I already have! I have Inés of My Soul which sounds like it has to be about Chile. So I will try that. But I am going to have to wait until I get back to my computer to post the list again. I don't have the patience to re-post from my iPad.
Liz, I'm switching my Australia book because I don't think the Peter Carey I selected is in keeping with the spirit of the challenge. Instead, I'll be reading Outback Heart, a book that takes place in Australia and written by an Australian.
In the spreadsheet, Antigua is listed as South America - that is possibly as much a judgement call as putting Russia under Europe instead of Asia...
Wikipedia is silent on Antigua and Barbuda as far as I can tell. It is grouped with the South American countries because it is part of the island archipelago which originates of the coast of Venezuela.Russia is one of the countries which spans two continents. Russia is Europe because continents are based on the location of the capital city.
Connie wrote: "In the spreadsheet, Antigua is listed as South America - that is possibly as much a judgement call as putting Russia under Europe instead of Asia..."Actually, Russia is in both Europe and Asia.
Indeed it is. Purely by landmass, relative to one another, I would hazard a guess that it has way more in Asia. Culturally, Russians would debate whether they belong to Europe (except if you're talking to someone from St. Petersburg), though, again guessing, they possibly would as fiercely resist the thought that they're Asian. They're Russian, and that is that.I'm not argueing with the list though, I'm just saying it's a judgement call where to put a country that is in two continents, or on the border of two continents, and you can make the call based on a number of factors - capital city, landmass, cultural affinity, etc...
I think I personally put them in Europe.
so...I'm thinking about switching out one of my European selections for Perfume: The Story of a Murderer by Patrick Süskind. I believe it's set in Paris, but the author was born and yet resides in Germany. Can I claim this book for Germany? I know I'd need to re-submit my itinerary, but I want to make sure it'd be an acceptable substitution before I do so. Thanks for your help!
Yes, Patrick Süskind is of German birth and nationality, so this book would qualify even though its setting is France.
I had forgotten to consider how many times AtW can be completed. After discussion, we've decided that participants can complete it as many times as they wish, with one important caveat:You cannot repeat a country in any of your journeys.
Other than that, the second (and third and fourth) journey must follow the same rules as the first journey and receives task and bonus points as stated in the rules.
Katy,For your AtW itinerary, you should switch Spain & the UK. After that, you are good to go.
Don wrote: "Will Waifs and Strays by Charles de Lint work for Canada?"I don't think it fits: de Lint was born in the Netherlands and the setting for these stories appears to be "his fictional North American city of Newford inspired by de Lint's favourite aspects of various North American cities." Since the setting is not specifically Canadian, it doesn't qualify.
Could I use Super Sad True Love Story for Russia? The author was born in Russia. Would that still make him Russian even though he lives in the US?
Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "Could I use Super Sad True Love Story for Russia? The author was born in Russia. Would that still make him Russian even though he lives in the US?"Sorry, this book does not qualify for Russia. Even though the author was born in Russia he is an American and the book setting is New York.
Don wrote: "Is Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood acceptable since it is a graphic novel?"Graphic novels are acceptable.
Liz M wrote: "Don wrote: "Is Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood acceptable since it is a graphic novel?"Graphic novels are acceptable."
ooh, are Graphic Novels normally acceptable? If they are I can add the latest Buffy one that I read ^_^
Christin wrote: "Liz M wrote: "Don wrote: "Is Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood acceptable since it is a graphic novel?"Graphic novels are acceptable."
ooh, are Graphic Novels normally acceptable?..."
Just be sure you watch the page count, and the Lexile if claiming style points. Have fun!
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Christin wrote: "Liz M wrote: "Don wrote: "Is Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood acceptable since it is a graphic novel?"Graphic novels are acceptable."
ooh, are Graphic Novels nor..."
Awesome! I know it was about 160 pages and the Lexile should be fine as it's not for a younger audience. Thanks! ^_^
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Christin wrote: "Liz M wrote: "Don wrote: "Is Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood acceptable since it is a graphic novel?"Graphic novels are acceptable."
ooh, are Graphic Novels nor..."
Lexiles only deal with words, so if a graphic novel is considered YA, it probably won't be eligible for Style Points. For example, Persepolis only rates 380, even though it's a sophisticated work.
Karen GHHS wrote: "Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Christin wrote: "Liz M wrote: "Don wrote: "Is Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood acceptable since it is a graphic novel?"Graphic novels are acceptable."
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Yeah, I couldn't find Buffy on the Lexile site (so I'm not sure if it would count then for style points...). It does have violence, sex, etc discussed so I'd be surprised if it ranked as YA at all.
I think it is South America, I am not sure
Don, I'm verifying what another moderator thinks. I'm pretty sure it won't be South America though.
Samoa has been added to the sheet for Australasia. It is W 171 45
Can I claim Philippa Gregory for England?
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This book fits; it meets the author birthplace & author nationality criteria.