Challenge #9: Task List and Q&A

[Sarah Louise]

this is my first big challenge, flip it's going to be a lot harder than I first thought

[Sarah Louise]

how do you do the text link to a book?

[Jackie]

Use the "add book/author" above the posting box. Enter the title, click search, choose the one you want and it will add the link for you.

[JoLene, Mistress of the Challenge]

This will be my first long challenge and I have a really silly question. What is the definition of "historical fiction" that you are using?

I only ask because I was doing a challenge last year where they were using the definition of any story that takes place at least 50 years ago, regardless of its publication date --- so Pride and Prejudice was considered HF.

[Becky, Moddess]

We go by a rule of a setting 50 years prior to when it was published, so classics that were contemporary when they were published, like P&P, would not count.

If it was published in 2012, it would need to be set in 1962 or earlier. Published in 1812, it would need to be 1762 or earlier.. etc.

[JoLene, Mistress of the Challenge]

Next question, for the presidential task, does the book need to be during the actual presidency. Example, I've had Founding Brothers on my TBR for a while now, but I think most of the book is about the time before they were presidents.

[Jackie]

JoLene wrote: "Next question, for the presidential task, does the book need to be during the actual presidency. Example, I've had Founding Brothers on my TBR for a while now, but I think most of the book is abou..."

If it touches some on their presidency I'll accept it.

[Shay]

Not all of these books would work, obviously. Not all have enough green. They also aren't necessarily HF, but there's a listopia for green books:
http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/29...

[April]

For task 20.2 (HF book to make English teacher proud), wouls The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn count? It was written in 1884 and set before the Civil War, but I'm not sure how far forward.

[Derrick]

How about something like these for Microhistory?

Eruptions That Shook The World

Radioactivity: A History of a Mysterious Science

[Jackie]

April wrote: "For task 20.2 (HF book to make English teacher proud), wouls The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn count? It was written in 1884 and set before the Civil War, but I'm not sure how far forw..."

I checked wiki, but it's not clear. However, quite a few people have it shelved as HF so I'll take it.

[Jackie]

Derrick wrote: "How about something like these for Microhistory?

Eruptions That Shook The World

Radioactivity: A History of a Mysterious Science"

Just from reading the discriptions it seems like both would count as microhistory.

[April]

Jackie wrote: "April wrote: "For task 20.2 (HF book to make English teacher proud), wouls The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn count? It was written in 1884 and set before the Civil War, but I'm not sur..."

Thanks! I keep saying I'm going to read it but never do. Now I can.

[Melissa]

Do you count Arthurian legend as Historical Fiction?

[Jackie]

April wrote: "Thanks! I keep saying I'm going to read it but never do. Now I can. "

I do the same thing! It's been on my list for a few years now.

[Jackie]

Melissa wrote: "Do you count Arthurian legend as Historical Fiction?"

We don't, but you can use it for other non-HF tasks.

[Melissa]

Jackie wrote: "Melissa wrote: "Do you count Arthurian legend as Historical Fiction?"

We don't, but you can use it for other non-HF tasks."

ok

[Jayme(theghostreader)]

I have some questions for the HF with a green cover. Would The Kitchen God's Wife be considered HF? Also would work as well?

[JC]

I've read The Kitchen God's wife and it's HF for sure, and a really good book.

[Jayme(theghostreader)]

Thanks Jen C.

[JoLene, Mistress of the Challenge]

Since King Arthur isn't HF, I'm assuming that means that no historical fantasy is considered HF for the bonus point. I was planning to read Throne of Jade as my green cover. The book is set during the Napoleanic wars, but dragons are a part of the military (sky calvary ;-). Please confirm.

[Jayme(theghostreader)]

I like that:) Dragons are sky calvary.

[Jackie]

Sorry JoLene, but historical fantasy will not be given HF bonus points.

[Shay]

Jackie wrote: "Sorry JoLene, but historical fantasy will not be given HF bonus points."

So, it couldn't be used for that task at all because the task requires HF, right?

Green book that are HF, if anyone is looking:

[Jackie]

That's correct Shay. :)

[Kristine]

I need help! I have been searching for a book published in 1964 that meets the page requirements and is available at my overdrive account. Not much luck...either childrens novels that are not long enough or not available for me....I would say it was not a good year for literature that I can see!

[LemonLinda]

http://www.goodreads.com/book/popular...

Try the above - has 200, I think, all published in 1964.

[JoLene, Mistress of the Challenge]

Ok, would work as a mostly gold cover. My backup is the new book called The Crown but it's still on order at the library so not sure that I would get it in time.

[LemonLinda]

The book I wanted to use with a green cover is Beulah Land, a HF by Lonnie Coleman. The version I have is the cover that is shown in the above link, but it does not show the number of pages. The other versions of this book do not show page count either. The book I have is 536 pages and it is the one in the above link. Can I use it since there is not verification of pages on GRs? It gets a pretty high rating and I already had gotten it from PBS so I would like to use it, if possible.

[Shay]

LemonLinda wrote: "The book I wanted to use with a green cover is Beulah Land, a HF by Lonnie Coleman. The version I have is the cover that is shown in the above link, but it does not s..."

The book you linked to- did you verify that the copy in your hand has the same ISBN? Does the page count you listed (536) include any numbered pages such as afterword, bibliography, about the author, etc. Not including any advertising for the book. If so, I'll update the page count for you on GR.

[Jackie]

JoLene, I will accept that one for the task.


Lemonlinda, yes that's fine. I'll just take your word for it on the page count. I tried looking it up on other books sites and can't find a page count for it either.

[Kristine]

Thanks Linda...I think I have finally found one....may not be something I would usually pick but we'll see.

[Kristine]

Woul Howards End work for 15.3?

[Jackie]

Kristine wrote: "Woul Howards End work for 15.3?"

Looks green to me!

[LemonLinda]

Shay, the page count for Beulah Land that I gave (536) is book only - no afterword, author's page, etc.

Thanks for accepting it!

[Shay]

LemonLinda wrote: "Shay, the page count for Beulah Land that I gave (536) is book only - no afterword, author's page, etc.

Thanks for accepting it!"

It's should be showing between now and 15 minutes or so the correct page count.

[Kirstin]

I am having trouble finding a book that was published the year I was born (1986) that a) i would like to read and b) my library owns. Victoria Victorious: The Story of Queen Victoria was published in 1985 which is the year my husband was born. Would this substituion be allowed?

[Jackie]

Kirstin wrote: "I am having trouble finding a book that was published the year I was born (1986) that a) i would like to read and b) my library owns. Victoria Victorious: The Story of Queen Victoria ..."

Sorry Kirstin, but I'm going to have to say no on this one. Here's a Listopia list of books published in 1986 that will hopefully help you: http://www.goodreads.com/book/popular...

[Kirstin]

Jackie wrote: "Kirstin wrote: "I am having trouble finding a book that was published the year I was born (1986) that a) i would like to read and b) my library owns. [book:Victoria Victorious: The Story of Queen V..."

Ok that is a much better list than I found. Thanks for the help!!

[JC]

Does Pope Joan work for 15.1? As far as I can tell from descriptions and wikipedia she is a 'legend'. Otherwise, maybe some true event happens in the book?

[Jackie]

JenC. wrote: "Does Pope Joan work for 15.1? As far as I can tell from descriptions and wikipedia she is a 'legend'. Otherwise, maybe some true event happens in the book?"

Unfortunately no because it's a fictional book and it's only about her life. If it was non-fiction and spanned from her life time until modern day then it would work.

[JC]

not the microhistory one, but 15.1 - Keeping It Real! Read a HF book that has a real historical figure as a character or takes place around a historical event.

[Jackie]

Opps! Sorry. After work I start seeing double. ;) Yes, for 15.1 Pope Joan would work.

[JC]

Jackie wrote: "Opps! Sorry. After work I start seeing double. ;) Yes, for 15.1 Pope Joan would work."

no worries! thanks.

[Margaret]

For 100 pts, does that just have to be from the 2011 lists? There is also a link for 2009 and 2010 on the same page, would those work also?

[Jackie]

Nope, just the 2011 list.

[April]

I seem to have a lot of questions this go around.

Will Playing the Enemy: Nelson Mandela and the Game That Made a Nation work for 10.3. Mandela was not a US president but he was a President.

[Kristine]

For task 10.2 could I read a book with the name spelt as Christine? Not easy to find much with Kristine....

[Jackie]

April wrote: "I seem to have a lot of questions this go around.

Will Playing the Enemy: Nelson Mandela and the Game That Made a Nation work for 10.3. Mandela was not a US president but he was a..."

It should be US president.

[Jackie]

Kristine wrote: "For task 10.2 could I read a book with the name spelt as Christine? Not easy to find much with Kristine...."

Yup, that's fine.