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message 201: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Good job, Manuel. Cleopatra VII. I thought I was being so cute with "conqueror of Romans"--Caesar and Marc Anthony; and Greek ancestry to throw off the guesses of an Egyptian queen. You're up, Manuel.


message 202: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments I did my 7th grade oral report on the Great Lighthouse of Alexandria in 1976.
Im still surprised at what the brain will retain after all these years.
I still remember Miss Craig correcting my pronunciation of Ptolomy - I was actually pronouncing the "P"

Give me a few hours guys, Im off to work


message 203: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Im still trying to put my brain around the chestnut thing. I never heard of that tragedy.


message 204: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments a person

1. Empress at age 27
2. Husband never expected on the throne.
3. no children (legitimate)
4. jealous of her famous sister-law's relationship with her husband


message 205: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) (My apologies in advance for the off topic digression.)

Manuel, people don't realize how badly we've messed up our woods. The Chestnut Blight was probably the worst & most obvious to date since they comprised over 25% of the Appalachian forests & were such useful trees, but the Dutch Elm disease took out many of the shade trees on our streets in the middle of the 20th century.

Now we have the Green Ash Borer decimating our Ash trees & a fungus that attacks Red Oaks - it rots them off about an inch above the ground. Perfectly healthy tree suddenly falls over with solid wood above & below. Scary!

There are tons of other imports that are harming our woods. I have Japanese Honeysuckle, Garlic Mustard & Multifloral Rose just in my woods. Most don't care or know. Few understand the danger.


message 206: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments In New Mexico we have bore beatle issues in our forests. I'm no expert on it; just read it in the papers. It's threatening the forests, though.

Empress, Jealous of her famous sister-in-laws ...? Hmmm. I'll get back to yah on that.


message 207: by Will (last edited Feb 26, 2009 07:08AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments My brain jumped to Princess Orchid from the book, "The Last Empress" but I have to work and don't have time to verify the age of 24. She had a child, so I'm probably wrong. I got lucky on the chestnut guess, so ya'll carry on and good luck.



message 208: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Manuel - I'm not sure I know what you mean by "Husband never expected on the throne."


message 209: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments My aplologies Susanna,
I was on my way to work and that clue was not expressed well.

A Person:
1. Empress at age 24 not 27.
2. Husband 2nd in line to the throne.
3. No(legitimate)children
4. Jealous of her sister-in-law's relationship with her husband


message 210: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Jim
Im one of those people who didnt have a clue about the trees.
Thank you for teaching me something new. I feel I must do a lot more reading on this.


message 211: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Thanks, Manuel! That helps a lot.


message 212: by James (new)

James We were on vacation in Raleigh last year and saw a museum exhibit about the chestnut blight - I'd heard of it but had no idea of the scale. Apparently chestnuts were one of the most common trees in North America until then, and they got gigantic. They're not completely gone - they'll start out, but they die when they reach a certain size, not very big. Botanists are still working on cross-breeding them with related trees to come up with a blight-resistant variety. I hope they succeed.


message 213: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (last edited Feb 25, 2009 12:59PM) (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Yes, I also hope they succeed with the chestnut. I remember my first encounter with the blight was when I was about ten and read James Thurber's My Life and Hard Times, where one of his relatives was "infected with the blight that was killing the chestnuts that year." So I asked my parents and grandparents what he meant (I was an inquisitive little bugger!).

Wonderful nuts, chestnuts. We usually have them at both Thanksgiving (stuffing) and Christmas (soup).


message 214: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Being Hispanic, chestnuts are not part of my ethnic background so I have never tasted them. However they are such a huge part of American and European tradition during the holidays, I am very curious to experience them.


message 215: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
They have a wonderful, rich nutty taste. Very complex flavors. I love them.


message 216: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments They are not readily available here in California. I dont think I have ever seen one at the market, at least I havent recognized them as chestnuts.

But my Eastern friends say its part of their tradition and they all rave about them.


message 217: by James (new)

James The bark beetles are devastating forests in a lot of North America - healthy trees can resist them fairly well, but drought weakens them and the beetles then kill them. There are major stretches in the mountains here that are brown because the trees are all dead. That, in turn, primes the areas for fires that leave nothing living.

I saw an article recently about a proposal by a wildlife biologist to save plant and animal species whose habitats are becoming too hot, too dry, etc., or are under attack by new parasites like the chestnuts, by transplanting them to places that the same climate change processes have made habitable for them. It's controversial, but it might prevent some extinctions.

Another strange development is that as warming melts more polar ice and pushes polar bears south and habitat encroachment pushes grizzlies and other brown bears north, they're running into each other, and at least one grizzly/polar hybrid (confirmed by DNA analysis) has been killed in the wild. The two species only branched apart about 20,000 years ago and can still interbreed. The photo was interesting - it was white but had some dark fur around its eyes and on its paws, and its head was shaped like a grizzly's more than a polar bear's. They can't decide whether to call it a grolar or a pizzly.


message 218: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments A person:
1. Empress at 24
2. Husband 2nd in line to the throne
3. No (legitimate) children
4. Jealous of her famous sister-in-law's relationship with her husband
5. Named after her father's first wife.


message 219: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I noticed the miss-type of 27 instead of 24 yesterday and thought I'd corrected it before anyone read it to not throw them off, but this morning I realize I hadn't. sorry.

Okay, now I'm curious. How does a person catch chestnut blight? I guess I'm a curious bugger; definitely not little, though. (6'5")




message 220: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Well, I'm not sure how a person catches chestnut blight - I'm not sure Thurber was either! It's a very funny book though - a comic memoir.


message 221: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments W.W. Longfellow: Under a dying chestnut tree, the village smithy stands....



message 222: by James (new)

James They'd probably have to have a pretty wooden personality... maybe some deep roots in their community too. Not to mention being kind of nutty.


message 223: by James (new)

James Under a fallen chestnut tree, the village smithy lies... he should have stood under an oak, maybe.


message 224: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments a person:
1. Empress at 24
2. Husband 2nd in line to the throne
3. no (legitimate) children
4. Jealous of her famous sister-in-law's relationship with her husband.
5. Named after her father's 1st wife.
6. Mother a Catholic, Father a Protestant


message 225: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Charlotte of Belgium?

Her father's first wife was also Charlotte & I guess the succession worked out like that for Maximillian, although he renounced the Austrian claim when he became Emperor of Mexico.


message 226: by Manuel (last edited Feb 26, 2009 03:20PM) (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Bravo Jim

Yes, Carlota of Mexico,
Queen Victoria's Catholic cousin. Daughter of Leopold I of Belgium
Named after Princess Charlotte, only daughter of King George IV.
Jealous of Empress Elizabeth's relationship with Maximilian.
Maximilian reportedly the bastard son of Napolean II.
Never had children (by her husband), reportedly had a bastard son of a Belgian officer.


message 227: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I was off a bit...half-way 'round the world.



message 228: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) What's a few thousand miles between friends, Will?

1. Artic Explorer
2. Married his second wife, Dagmar, in June 1945
3. He & his wife both wrote books about his explorations & the names are similar, but the words are reversed. She edited the first.
4. His first wife was an Eskimo.


message 229: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I thought of Knut Rasmussen, whose wife was Dagmar something, but the time-line was wrong. Darn it!


message 230: by Jim (last edited Feb 27, 2009 06:42AM) (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I'm pretty sure he knew, met & spent some time with Rasmussen. Not a lot, as I recall, though.


message 231: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Hmmm, must do research? Nah, not my style to research. It's not in the brain now, it never will be...old dog, new tricks thing.


message 232: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) 1. Artic Explorer
2. Married his second wife, Dagmar, in June 1945
3. He & his wife both wrote books about his explorations & the names are similar, but the words are reversed. She edited the first.
4. His first wife was an Eskimo.
5. His first wife chewed on his can opener leaving teeth marks that Dagmar noticed. (Always been a memorable part from the introduction of the first book. The sheer power!)



message 233: by Will (last edited Feb 28, 2009 10:44AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Peter Freuchen/Dagmar Cohn, Life and ways of the Eskimos and Eskimo Way of Life, something like that. I did do some research. I just looked up the names of friends and fellow explorers of Rasmussen. Dagmar must be a common Scandanavian name; both had wives by that name.


message 234: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments I have no clue who the explorer is, but I must say I'm curious now.


message 235: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments It's Peter Freuchen, Manuel; I promise. Jim's just off duty right now. Freuchen was a fellow explorer of Knut (Knud) Rasmussen on one expedition.


message 236: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Yes, Peter Freuchen, but the books I had in mind were Adventures in the Arctic & Arctic Adventure. You're right about the Eskimo one, although it doesn't matter. I see now that on GR, both list him as the author. The copy I have of the latter lists Dagmar Freuchen as the author. Sorry about that.

I prefer the first book & reading the second doesn't add too much to the story. If you've never read either, I highly recommend it. He saw some wild stuff. Wait until you find out what his first wife used as shampoo!

You're up, Manuel. Sorry I took so long to get back, but I'm off today & at home where I have to use dial-up. That makes surfing a chore.


message 237: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Actually its Will's turn, I was just a curious bystander on this one.


message 238: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Oh my! Don't know how I managed to goof that one. Sorry. Go, Will!


message 239: by Will (last edited Mar 01, 2009 05:41AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Try this:

1. Roman à clef

2. Heralded as "the battle for hearts and minds...."

3. Based on Otto's service (sort of)

4. Coined a common phrase

More clues later today if necessary.






message 240: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments 5. made into a movie


message 241: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments 6. Still relevant to today.


message 242: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments 7. Published 1958


message 243: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Are we looking for the title, Will?


message 244: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Title of the book.


message 245: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Catch 22?


message 246: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments not a bad guess, but no.


message 247: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments The commonly used phrase from the book was often used in describing John McEnroe


message 248: by Will (last edited Mar 01, 2009 05:56PM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I never saw the movie but I think Marlon Brando played the lead role, Homer Atkins; don't hold me to that, though.


message 249: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Set in Indo-China durig the cold war. The theme: American foreign aid and diplomacy was ineffective.


message 250: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
The Ugly American?


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