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message 2101: by George (new)

George | 179 comments one can always hope. otherwise no one would ever marry more than once.


message 2102: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Was'nt it George's turn?


message 2103: by George (new)

George | 179 comments oops, sorry, didn't understand the protocol. Manuel, if you have something lined up, go ahead.


message 2104: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Im tied up with a project right now.


message 2105: by George (last edited Nov 19, 2009 06:04PM) (new)

George | 179 comments A bit of a tough one. An obscure but interesting fellow.

1. 19th Century US Southern adventurer
2. Prince of China
3. Helped stop the Taiping Rebellion
4. leader of mercenary forces


message 2106: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Doesn't ring a bell so far...


message 2107: by George (new)

George | 179 comments Yes, he is rather obscure.

5. Leader of the Ever Victorious Army
6. Flashman character


message 2108: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (last edited Nov 21, 2009 10:24AM) (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
I would say Frederick Townsend Ward but I don't think he was a Southerner.


message 2109: by George (new)

George | 179 comments It is indeed and he was. very good. stopped tbe Taiping Rebellion from taking Shanghai and getting access to a port and Western weapons. He was eventually killed and his army was taken over by Gordon, who earned the sobriquet "Chinese" as a result of his efforts.


message 2110: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
A person:

1. Ukranian
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.


message 2111: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
A person:

1. Ukranian
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Left at the altar by Desiree.


message 2112: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
A person:

1. Ukranian
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Left at the altar by Desiree.
6. Ill-starred marriage to Antonina, followed by a little visit to Switzerland to clear his head.


message 2113: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
A person:

1. Ukranian
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Left at the altar by Desiree.
6. A premiere hissed in Vienna.


message 2114: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments im trying desperately not to look it up on google


message 2115: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (last edited Nov 22, 2009 05:56PM) (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
A person:

1. Ukranian.
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Left at the altar by Desiree.
6. A premiere hissed in Vienna.
7. Violin Concerto once described as full of vodka.


message 2116: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (last edited Nov 22, 2009 06:35PM) (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
A person:

1. Ukranian
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Left at the altar by Desiree.
6. Ill-starred marriage to Antonina, followed by a little rest cure in Switzerland.
7. A premiere hissed in Vienna.
8. Violin concerto once described as full of vodka.
9. Works compared by critics to Dostoyevsky.


message 2117: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
A person:

1. Ukranian
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Left at the altar by Desiree.
6. Ill-starred marriage to Antonina, followed by a little rest cure in Switzerland.
7. A premiere hissed in Vienna.
8. Violin concerto once described as full of vodka.
9. Works compared by critics to Dostoyevsky.
10. Sudden death at 53 usually ascribed to either cholera or suicide.


message 2118: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Im intrigued by clue 10

you mean they couldnt tell the difference?????


message 2119: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
It's a disputed matter, apparently.


message 2120: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (last edited Nov 22, 2009 07:50PM) (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
1. Ukranian.
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Left at the altar by Desiree.
6. Ill-starred marriage to Antonina, followed by a little rest cure in Switzerland.
7. A premiere hissed in Vienna.
8. Violin concerto once described as full of vodka.
9. Works compared by critics to Dostoyevsky.
10. Sudden death at 53 usually ascribed to either cholera or suicide.
11. Patronized by a woman he never met, but with whom he exchanged over a thousand letters.


message 2121: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
1. Ukranian.
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Left at the altar by Desiree.
6. Ill-starred marriage to Antonina, followed by a little rest cure in Switzerland.
7. A premiere hissed in Vienna.
8. Violin concerto once described as full of vodka.
9. Works compared by critics to Dostoyevsky.
10. Sudden death at 53 usually ascribed to either cholera or suicide.
11. Patronized by a woman he never met, but with whom he exchanged over a thousand letters.
12. Her son later married his niece.


message 2122: by George (new)

George | 179 comments I was going to say Nijinsky until we got to the violin concerto.


message 2123: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (last edited Nov 22, 2009 09:18PM) (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
1. Ukranian.
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Jilted by Desiree, for a baritone.
6. Ill-starred marriage to Antonina, followed by a little rest cure in Switzerland.
7. A premiere hissed in Vienna.
8. Violin concerto once described as full of vodka.
9. Works compared by critics to Dostoyevsky.
10. Sudden death at 53 usually ascribed to either cholera or suicide.
11. Patronized by a woman he never met, but with whom he exchanged over a thousand letters.
12. Her son later married his niece.
13. Described one of his best-known works as loud and probably without much artistic merit, and said that he wasn't tremendously fond of it.


message 2124: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
1. Ukranian.
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Jilted by Desiree, for a baritone.
6. Ill-starred marriage to Antonina, followed by a little rest cure in Switzerland.
7. A premiere hissed in Vienna.
8. Violin concerto once described as full of vodka.
9. Works compared by critics to Dostoyevsky.
10. Sudden death at 53 usually ascribed to either cholera or suicide.
11. Patronized by a woman he never met, but with whom he exchanged over a thousand letters.
12. Her son later married his niece.
13. Described one of his best-known works as loud and probably without much artistic merit, and said that he wasn't tremendously fond of it.
14. A favorite of Tsar Alexander III, who gave him the Order of St. Vladimir (fourth class).


message 2125: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
1. Ukranian.
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Jilted by Desiree, for a baritone.
6. Ill-starred marriage to Antonina, followed by a little rest cure in Switzerland.
7. A premiere hissed in Vienna.
8. Violin concerto once described as full of vodka.
9. Works compared by critics to Dostoyevsky.
10. Sudden death at 53 usually ascribed to either cholera or suicide.
11. Patronized by a woman he never met, but with whom he exchanged over a thousand letters.
12. Her son later married his niece.
13. Described one of his best-known works as loud and probably without much artistic merit, and said that he wasn't tremendously fond of it.
14. A favorite of Tsar Alexander III, who gave him the Order of St. Vladimir (fourth class).
15. Conducted at the opening of Carnegie Hall.


message 2126: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
1. Ukranian.
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Jilted by Desiree, for a baritone.
6. Ill-starred marriage to Antonina, followed by a little rest cure in Switzerland.
7. A premiere hissed in Vienna.
8. Violin concerto once described as full of vodka.
9. Works compared by critics to Dostoyevsky.
10. Sudden death at 53 usually ascribed to either cholera or suicide.
11. Patronized by a woman he never met, but with whom he exchanged over a thousand letters.
12. Her son later married his niece.
13. Described one of his best-known works as loud and probably without much artistic merit, and said that he wasn't tremendously fond of it.
14. A favorite of Tsar Alexander III, who gave him the Order of St. Vladimir (fourth class).
15. Conducted at the opening of Carnegie Hall.
16. Honorary Doctor of Music from Cambridge.


message 2127: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
1. Ukranian.
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Jilted by Desiree, for a baritone.
6. Ill-starred marriage to Antonina, followed by a little rest cure in Switzerland.
7. A premiere hissed in Vienna.
8. Violin concerto once described as full of vodka.
9. Works compared by critics to Dostoyevsky.
10. Sudden death at 53 usually ascribed to either cholera or suicide.
11. Patronized by a woman he never met, but with whom he exchanged over a thousand letters.
12. Her son later married his niece.
13. Described one of his best-known works as loud and probably without much artistic merit, and said that he wasn't tremendously fond of it.
14. A favorite of Tsar Alexander III, who gave him the Order of St. Vladimir (fourth class).
15. Conducted at the opening of Carnegie Hall.
16. Honorary Doctor of Music from Cambridge.
17. His operas were command performances for Alexander III, making his reputation in Russia.


message 2128: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
1. Ukranian.
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Jilted by Desiree, for a baritone.
6. Ill-starred marriage to Antonina, followed by a little rest cure in Switzerland.
7. A premiere hissed in Vienna.
8. Violin concerto once described as full of vodka.
9. Works compared by critics to Dostoyevsky.
10. Sudden death at 53 usually ascribed to either cholera or suicide.
11. Patronized by a woman he never met, but with whom he exchanged over a thousand letters.
12. Her son later married his niece.
13. Described one of his best-known works as loud and probably without much artistic merit, and said that he wasn't tremendously fond of it.
14. A favorite of Tsar Alexander III, who gave him the Order of St. Vladimir (fourth class).
15. Conducted at the opening of Carnegie Hall.
16. Honorary Doctor of Music from Cambridge.
17. His operas were command performances for Alexander III, making his reputation in Russia.
18. Died, pathetically, nine days after the premiere of his Sixth Symphony. Audience was stunned and silent at the first performance; the second was a memorial and had a better reception.


message 2129: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (last edited Nov 23, 2009 04:14PM) (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
1. Ukranian.
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Jilted by Desiree, for a baritone.
6. Ill-starred marriage to Antonina, followed by a little rest cure in Switzerland.
7. A premiere hissed in Vienna.
8. Violin concerto once described as full of vodka.
9. Works compared by critics to Dostoyevsky.
10. Sudden death at 53 usually ascribed to either cholera or suicide.
11. Patronized by a woman he never met, but with whom he exchanged over a thousand letters.
12. Her son later married his niece.
13. Described one of his best-known works as loud and probably without much artistic merit, and said that he wasn't tremendously fond of it.
14. A favorite of Tsar Alexander III, who gave him the Order of St. Vladimir (fourth class).
15. Conducted at the opening of Carnegie Hall.
16. Honorary Doctor of Music from Cambridge.
17. His operas were command performances for Alexander III, making his reputation in Russia.
18. Died, pathetically, nine days after the premiere of his Sixth Symphony. Audience was stunned and silent at the first performance; the second was a memorial and had a better reception.
19. One of his ballets is very popular this time of year.


message 2130: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
1. Ukranian.
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Jilted by Desiree, for a baritone.
6. Ill-starred marriage to Antonina, followed by a little rest cure in Switzerland.
7. A premiere hissed in Vienna.
8. Violin concerto once described as full of vodka.
9. Works compared by critics to Dostoyevsky.
10. Sudden death at 53 usually ascribed to either cholera or suicide.
11. Patronized by a woman he never met, but with whom he exchanged over a thousand letters.
12. Her son later married his niece.
13. Described one of his best-known works as loud and probably without much artistic merit, and said that he wasn't tremendously fond of it.
14. A favorite of Tsar Alexander III, who gave him the Order of St. Vladimir (fourth class).
15. Conducted at the opening of Carnegie Hall.
16. Honorary Doctor of Music from Cambridge.
17. His operas were command performances for Alexander III, making his reputation in Russia.
18. Died, pathetically, nine days after the premiere of his Sixth Symphony. Audience was stunned and silent at the first performance; the second was a memorial and had a better reception.
19. One of his ballets is very popular this time of year.
20. Ballets also popular with figure skaters like Oksana Baiul.


message 2131: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
And folks, I am running out of clues. This one really is not as hard as it looks! 18 and 19 in particular should be telling you something.


message 2132: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Did he use canon as percussion? Or is that a myth?


message 2133: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Did who use canon as percussion?


message 2134: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Susanna wrote: "Did who use canon as percussion?"

Tchaikovsky...think it's him. Heard he used canon during his 1812 as percussion, probably apocryphal.


message 2135: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Yes, it was Tchaikovsky! Gold star for Barbarossa!

I was going to accuse the membership of being nekulturny.

The plans for the premiere included live cannon, but they ended up not using it, as the assassination of Alexander II rather put a squash on things.

Your go, Barbarossa!


message 2136: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Explanations (where necessary):

1. Ukranian.
2. Trained as a civil servant.
3. First post at the Ministry of Justice.
4. Reportedly homosexual.
5. Jilted by Desiree, for a baritone. (Was engaged to Desiree Artot, a Belgian soprano, who without notice married Spanish baritone Mariano Padilla y Ramos in 1869. After he dedicated a piano piece to her.)
6. Ill-starred marriage to Antonina, followed by a little rest cure in Switzerland. (He married a former student, Antonina Miliukova, in 1877, and it was a disaster. After they broke up, but while she refused to divorce him and before she started stalking him, he went to a sanitarium in Clarens, Switzerland.)
7. A premiere hissed in Vienna. (His Violin Concerto.)
8. Violin concerto once described as full of vodka. (Same concerto.)
9. Works compared by critics to Dostoyevsky. (What can I say but that period Russian music critics were kinda weird?)
10. Sudden death at 53 usually ascribed to either cholera or suicide.
11. Patronized by a woman he never met, but with whom he exchanged over a thousand letters. (Nadezhda von Meck.)
12. Her son later married his niece.
13. Described one of his best-known works as loud and probably without much artistic merit, and said that he wasn't tremendously fond of it. (1812 Overture. Description from letter to Nadezhda von Meck.)
14. A favorite of Tsar Alexander III, who gave him the Order of St. Vladimir (fourth class).
15. Conducted at the opening of Carnegie Hall. (Conducted 1812 Overture at 1891 opening.)
16. Honorary Doctor of Music from Cambridge. (In 1893, the year of his death.)
17. His operas were command performances for Alexander III, making his reputation in Russia. (Particularly Eugene Onegin.)
18. Died, pathetically, nine days after the premiere of his Sixth Symphony. Audience was stunned and silent at the first performance; the second was a memorial and had a better reception. (The Symphony Pathetique.)
19. One of his ballets is very popular this time of year. (The Nutcracker Suite keeps some ballet companies going every year.)
20. Ballets also popular with figure skaters like Oksana Baiul. (Swan Lake, Sleeping Beauty, Nutcracker Suite, and selections from the symphonies are all popular with figure skaters.)


message 2137: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Susanna wrote: "The plans for the premiere included live cannon, but they ended up not using it, as the assassination of Alexander II rather put a squash on things..."

At least ACDC still use canon...


message 2138: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
I think I once went to a performance of it that was a collaboration of the local symphony orchestra and the Civil War reenactors.


message 2139: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Righty-ho...
Person
1) Animal rights
2) Duelist
3) Lawyer
4) Cuckold


message 2140: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa 5) Hairtrigger
6) MP


message 2141: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
MP - Military Police?


message 2142: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Probably Member of Parliament


message 2143: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments William Adam


message 2144: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Manuel wrote: "Probably Member of Parliament"

Aye.
7) Allegedly called a donkey as a witness


message 2145: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Person
1) Animal rights - pushed first animal rights law through parliament, still an influencial act.
2) Duelist - over 100
3) Lawyer
4) Cuckold - by a famous revolutionary
5) Hairtrigger - although good with a sword he excelled with pistol
6) MP - Member of Parliament
7) Allegedly called a donkey as a witness - although this is disputed by some


message 2146: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa 8) AKA "Humanity"


message 2147: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa 9) Died in exile in France.


message 2148: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Humanity Dick, Richard Martin (1754-1834)


message 2149: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Ted wrote: "Humanity Dick, Richard Martin (1754-1834)"

Badda-bing! Well played sir.


message 2150: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments

Event
1) “Did you ever have any trouble with your stepmother?”
2) “You were either in the kitchen or sitting room all the time?”
3) “Did you suggest to anybody to search upstairs?”
4) “Did you go into the drugstore for any purpose whatever?”




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