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message 151: by Old-Barbarossa (last edited Feb 13, 2009 04:34AM) (new)

Old-Barbarossa Paula you are correct. It is Charles Stuart, or Charles 1st of the United Kingdom.
1) Charged with treason by the "Rump" parliament.
2) At the restoration they spun many myths about the causes of the civil war one being that it was fuelled by returning puritans.
3) No one 100% sure of the executioner. A few contenders. But most accounts agree that they were masked, wearing a false beard and...in drag.
4) The parliamentarian gossip was that Charlie and the Duke of Buckingham poisoned King James.
5) £400,000 was the payment to the Scots to hand Charles over to parliamentary forces.
6) His father was James 6th of Scotland and became James 1st of the United Kingdom after the Union Of The Crowns in 1603.
Well done Paula...so what's next?


message 152: by Paula (last edited Feb 13, 2009 02:18PM) (new)

Paula (paulaan) First attempt coming up.

Person

1) Grandmother of 2 English kings
2) Born in France
3) Has links with Lincoln
4) Father married 3 times


message 153: by Old-Barbarossa (last edited Feb 15, 2009 05:22AM) (new)

Old-Barbarossa Paula wrote: "First attempt coming up.

Person

1) Grandmother of 2 English kings
2) Born in France
3) Has links with Lincoln
4) Father married 3 times"


Well...I'm totally stumped on this. Not near my library and don't want to jump straight to google yet.
Anyone any ideas?
Any chance of another clue Paula?


message 154: by Paula (last edited Feb 15, 2009 05:48AM) (new)

Paula (paulaan) ok here's a 5th and extra added to 2

1) Grandmother of 2 English kings
2) Born in France - maiden name taken from place of birth - Chateau de _________ in Champagne
3) Has links with Lincoln
4) Father married 3 times

5) Father was regent of England and policies contributed to the Peasants Revolt 1381



message 155: by Tom (last edited Feb 15, 2009 07:51AM) (new)

Tom Foolery (tomfoolery) | 89 comments The Peasant's Revolt clue led me to The Oxford Illustrated History of Britain and, in a roundabout way, to John of Gaunt, who fit all the clues regarding her father. From there i went to Wikipedia to track down which of the (many, many) kids we were talking about and determined that Joan Beaufort was mother to Cecily Neville and thus grandmother to two English kings. Born at Château de Beaufort in Champagne. Could not find the link to Lincoln.


message 156: by Aimee (new)

Aimee | 36 comments I was right behind you Tom, she was interred in Lincoln Cathedral.


message 157: by Paula (new)

Paula (paulaan) Correct Tom - Your turn

She was interred with her mother Katherine Swynford in Lincoln Cathdral.




message 158: by Tom (new)

Tom Foolery (tomfoolery) | 89 comments Bah. I actually did come across that link to Lincoln...but was looking for a link to the president.

An easy one:

A person-
1 Argentine born
2 Physician
3 Opposed US involvement in Latin America
4 Subject of well known photo by Alberto Korda


message 159: by Old-Barbarossa (last edited Feb 15, 2009 11:37AM) (new)

Old-Barbarossa Che?
Read Motorcycle Diaries a while back and recently saw a trailer for the movie. Then I guessed. Then I checked: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/...
and: http://www.art-for-a-change.com/Month...


message 160: by Tom (new)

Tom Foolery (tomfoolery) | 89 comments Yup. You're up.


message 161: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Don't know the flag off the top of my head Marco. Will see what I can find out though.

Anyway, who's this?
1) Royal.
2) Not Hamlet.
3) Killed in battle with his son.
4) Christianised his country.
5) Initials now found on many electronic items.


message 162: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Marco, it's for Esperanto.
http://flagspot.net/flags/qy-eo.html


message 163: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments I didnt know Esperanto was a country.

Where is it located?


message 164: by Old-Barbarossa (last edited Feb 16, 2009 12:38AM) (new)

Old-Barbarossa It's next to Gibrovia and Erskland, near the Straights of Ergohilli, a large tidal island. Phoenecian, then Roman, then a Mameluke coast guard station, it became part of the Venetian Empire, an important trading outpost, became independant after a brief period of Ottoman rule. The movement for a universal language took it's name as it had been under the rule of most Western empires.
OK...I made that all up.
Seems to be a flag for the movement to use the language. Used like a corporate logo or any other movement's flag.


message 165: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments LOL
enjoyed it very much.

next time, lets see their postage stamps too.


message 166: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa And yet there were Esperantans in the shieldwall at the battle mentioned in post 194, clue 3...


message 167: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Ignore me Marco, I'm making it all up, "havering keech" as they say in the auld country...always check your sources...and today I am very unreliable if used as the primary or sole source. Just 'cause it sounds plausible doesn't mean it is. I'm just in a trickster like mood today.
I will give another clue to my "Who?" tomorrow morning (I'm on GMT) if no one has it by then.


message 168: by Aimee (new)

Aimee | 36 comments That was fascinating guys! I hate to admit my ignorence but had never heard of Esperanto(the language not the country..lol) before. Thanks for teaching me something!


message 169: by Tom (last edited Feb 16, 2009 04:15PM) (new)

Tom Foolery (tomfoolery) | 89 comments The Hamlet clue leads me to believe we're talking about a Dane. A quick inspection of The Barbarian Conversion From Paganism to Christianity leads me to King Harald Gormsson as the king who led the conversion of the Danes. A look at wikipedia to see if this is correct confirms that he was known as "Bluetooth" (a fact not mentioned in Barbarian Conversion), though that's a nickname and not his initials so i'm not certain...and that he died fighting a rebellion by his son Sweyn Forkbeard...another fact not mentioned in the book...so i'm not absolutely certain on this one.

That's a pretty decent book on early Medieval Europe, by the way.


message 170: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Sounds interesting, Tom.


message 171: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments I love the description of your deduction Tom.
Scandinavian history, is alas not my strongest area of expertise.
so I too have learned something new today.







message 172: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Tom wins.
Harald Gormsson, more commonly known as Harald Bluetooth. The use of a nickname instead of a patronymic was fairly widespread (eg: his son is usually known as Sweyn, or Svein, Forkbeard).
The runes for HB are the bluetooth icon on tech things.
Bluetooth translated as having teeth that are blue is a mistranslation of Blatand, more correctly "the great man with the dark skin" or "dark lord".


message 173: by Tom (new)

Tom Foolery (tomfoolery) | 89 comments I need to make up a couple of these to post if i get one right... mean time, i got nothin', and won't be able to put one together til after i get home for work. I yield my turn if anyone can post a new puzzle before i do.


message 174: by Tom (new)

Tom Foolery (tomfoolery) | 89 comments Since no one's posted, i've finally come up with one. Tried to make it as obscure as i could...

semi-legendary figure

1 Famous duelist who won his first at 13. According to some legends, he was never defeated in a duel.
2 Author, artist, and sculptor
3 A battleship shared his name
4 Has a rabbit namesake



message 175: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments I wonder if you mean Miyamato Musashi?

I have a Tamiya water line model of the Mushashi's sister ship, the Yamato.

along with HMS King George V, HMS Hood, HMS Prince of Wales and Bismark


message 176: by Tom (new)

Tom Foolery (tomfoolery) | 89 comments Not as obscure as i thought, i guess. The rabbit is Miyamoto Usagi, the ronin character in the Usagi Yojimbo comics by Stan Sakai. You're up.


message 177: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments I knew about the ship, I didnt know about the comic character.


message 178: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments A person:

1. Sibling on the throne.
2. Scandalous marriage.
3. Fashionable bride from Maryland.
4. Bride refused by his family at court.


message 179: by Aimee (new)

Aimee | 36 comments Edward VIII, King of Britain, later Duke of Windsor.


message 180: by Manuel (last edited Feb 19, 2009 01:06PM) (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Sorry Aimee
not the right answer


Not Edward nor Mrs Simpson


message 181: by Aimee (new)

Aimee | 36 comments Ohhh, this is driving me crazy now.... I've been scouring genealogy charts all afternoon.


message 182: by Manuel (last edited Feb 19, 2009 04:08PM) (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Hmmmmm
the bride was not only refused at court, she was forbidden to step foot in her husband's country.


message 183: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments The monarch petitioned the Pope for an annulment.


message 184: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Pope Pius refused to issue an annulment


message 185: by Paula (last edited Feb 20, 2009 03:02AM) (new)

Paula (paulaan) is it

Jérôme Bonaparte

1) brother of Napoléon 1 of France
2) ?
3)Fell in love with American Elizabeth Patterson
4)?
5)?
Pope Pius VII refused to annul the marriage

It was the Pope Pius clue that lead me to Napoleon but it was guess work and google for the details.



message 186: by Manuel (last edited Feb 20, 2009 12:15PM) (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Bravo Paula!!!
Yes
Jerome Bonaparte, King of Westphalia, youngest brother of Emperor Napoleon.
Married Elizabeth Patterson in Baltimore while he was visiting America.

The Pope refused an annulment, so Napoleon declared one anyway with his power as Emperor of France.
He refused to give pregnant Elizabeth permission to get off the boat anywhere in occupied Europe. She eventually had her baby in London.

Apparently Jerome's grandson (Charles Joseph Bonaparte) became US Attorney General, Secretary of the Navy and was the founder of the FBI.


message 187: by Paula (last edited Feb 21, 2009 01:08PM) (new)

Paula (paulaan) 1) 4th and youngest son of King Robert II
2) Married a widowed Countess
3) Marriage annulled - at the "request of his wife"
4) Best Known by his nickname which includes an animal
5) Involved in burning of a Cathedral
(clue to cathedral name xxxxxx Marbles "discovered" by Lord xxxxx with the same name)

Edited to add - King Robert II


message 188: by Aimee (last edited Feb 21, 2009 07:22PM) (new)

Aimee | 36 comments Alexander Stewert, also known as the wolf of Badenoch .


message 189: by Paula (new)

Paula (paulaan) Yep Aimee - your turn


message 190: by Aimee (new)

Aimee | 36 comments 1. Most of family excecuted by Uncle
2. Rumors of incest
3. Known for cruelty and insanity
4. Murdered by own personal guard.


message 191: by Will (last edited Feb 22, 2009 06:46PM) (new)

Will (oldbosun) | 21 comments ...and his antics led to a movie collaboration between Gore Vidal and Bob Guccione: Caligula"


message 192: by Aimee (new)

Aimee | 36 comments I keep tring to get more obsure so that they are harder to guess, but if you got it in five minutes I'm going to have to admit defeat LOL... Yes Will, you are correct.


message 193: by Will (new)

Will (oldbosun) | 21 comments Aimee wrote: "I keep tring to get more obsure so that they are harder to guess, but if you got it in five minutes I'm going to have to admit defeat LOL... Yes Will, you are correct."

Aw, shucks, ma'am, 'tweren't nothin' much.

Here you go:

1. Treaty of Paris (1763)
2. Peace of Paris (1783)
3. Thomas Jefferson
4. Sinking of the El Cazador




message 194: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) The Louisiana Purchase?


message 195: by Will (new)

Will (oldbosun) | 21 comments Jim wrote: "The Louisiana Purchase?"

Take it away, Jim!


message 196: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Here's an event that rocked our world:

1) First noticed at the Bronx Zoo.
2) Spread 50 miles per year.
3) Killed an estimated 3 billion.
4) You can't find American ones to roast for Christmas any more.


message 197: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I know Chestnut disease was first discovered at the Bronx zoo. Chestnuts roasting on an open fire? Turn of the 20th century?


message 198: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) The Chestnut Blight is correct! Your turn, Will.


message 199: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Really? I just pulled that one from the cobwebs of my brain. Blight, not disease; sorry.

Uh, how about this?



7th successor of Greek bloodlines.

Ruled in the century prior to Jesus’ birth.

Incestuous marriages.

Conqueror of Romans.

Subject of many well-known writings.






message 200: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Cleopatra and the Ptolomies?


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