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Historical Event Game

2) Famous as part of a duo. - Mary Read, possibly her lover.
3) "Worked" for another, famous in the same field. - Jack Rackham
5) Downfall caused by drink. - Crew were drunk when Capt. Barnett RN attacked.
6) Nearly hanged. -Pleaded "her belly" (being pregnant) and avoided the noose.
8) Cross dresser. - Dressed as a man occasionaly.
9) Didn't want to be "bought and sold like cattle". - Jack Rackham, her lover at the time, wanted to buy her from her husband.
10) Boss in 3) above was named after a fabric. - Jack Rackham was known as Calico Jack.
12) Eventual fate unknown for sure, possibly ended up in Charles Town, South Carolina, living to the ripe old age of 85. - No record of execution or the birth of her child. Possibly had her freedom bought by her father.
Carry on...
A person:
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
A person:
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
6. Several American schools bear his name.
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
6. Several American schools bear his name.
A person:
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
6. Several American schools bear his name.
7. Two very successful partnerships, both with college friends.
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
6. Several American schools bear his name.
7. Two very successful partnerships, both with college friends.
A person:
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
6. Several American schools bear his name.
7. Two very successful partnerships, both with college friends.
8. Son of a physician.
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
6. Several American schools bear his name.
7. Two very successful partnerships, both with college friends.
8. Son of a physician.
A person:
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
6. Several American schools bear his name.
7. Two very successful partnerships, both with college friends.
8. Son of a physician.
9. Work popular with some soccer fans.
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
6. Several American schools bear his name.
7. Two very successful partnerships, both with college friends.
8. Son of a physician.
9. Work popular with some soccer fans.
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1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
6. Several American schools bear his name.
7. Two very successful partnerships, both with college friends.
8. Son of a physician.
9. Work popular with some soccer fans.
10. Guest on an early Ed Sullivan episode.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
6. Several American schools bear his name.
7. Two very successful partnerships, both with college friends.
8. Son of a physician.
9. Work popular with some soccer fans.
10. Guest on an early Ed Sullivan episode.
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
6. Several American schools bear his name.
7. Two very successful partnerships, both with college friends.
8. Son of a physician.
9. Work popular with some soccer fans.
10. Guest on an early Ed Sullivan episode.
11. Oscar winner.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
6. Several American schools bear his name.
7. Two very successful partnerships, both with college friends.
8. Son of a physician.
9. Work popular with some soccer fans.
10. Guest on an early Ed Sullivan episode.
11. Oscar winner.
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
6. Several American schools bear his name.
7. Two very successful partnerships, both with college friends.
8. Son of a physician.
9. Work popular with some soccer fans.
10. Guest on an early Ed Sullivan episode.
11. Oscar winner.
12. Children and grandchildren in the same line of work, though not as successfully.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner.
6. Several American schools bear his name.
7. Two very successful partnerships, both with college friends.
8. Son of a physician.
9. Work popular with some soccer fans.
10. Guest on an early Ed Sullivan episode.
11. Oscar winner.
12. Children and grandchildren in the same line of work, though not as successfully.
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The answer to both would be "no"...but thanks all the same.
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Uh, Mcgyver5 - Ed got it already.
Clue explanation:
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam. He started composing at summer camp, at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear. Before Rodgers and Hart had their first big Broadway success, in 1925, Rodgers considered quitting the music business.
3. Emmy winner. For Victory at Sea.
4. Commemorated on US postage. In 1999.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner. For South Pacific (1949).
6. Several American schools bear his name. Among them, Manhattan's Richard Rodgers School of Arts & Technology, PS 166.
7. Two very successful partnerships, both with college friends. Rodgers & Hart, and Rodgers & Hammerstein.
8. Son of a physician.
9. Work popular with some soccer fans. "You'll Never Walk Alone."
10. Guest on an early Ed Sullivan episode.
11. Oscar winner.
12. Children and grandchildren in the same line of work, though not as successfully. Daughter Mary composed Once Upon a Mattress, grandson Peter Melnik Adrift in Cacao, and another grandson, Adam Guettel, won two Tony Awards for The Light in the Piazza.
Clue explanation:
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam. He started composing at summer camp, at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear. Before Rodgers and Hart had their first big Broadway success, in 1925, Rodgers considered quitting the music business.
3. Emmy winner. For Victory at Sea.
4. Commemorated on US postage. In 1999.
5. Pulitzer Prize winner. For South Pacific (1949).
6. Several American schools bear his name. Among them, Manhattan's Richard Rodgers School of Arts & Technology, PS 166.
7. Two very successful partnerships, both with college friends. Rodgers & Hart, and Rodgers & Hammerstein.
8. Son of a physician.
9. Work popular with some soccer fans. "You'll Never Walk Alone."
10. Guest on an early Ed Sullivan episode.
11. Oscar winner.
12. Children and grandchildren in the same line of work, though not as successfully. Daughter Mary composed Once Upon a Mattress, grandson Peter Melnik Adrift in Cacao, and another grandson, Adam Guettel, won two Tony Awards for The Light in the Piazza.

1. Born in the Midwest U.S.
2. Worked as the editor of an agricultural publication for many years.
3. Experimented successfully with high yielding corn strains.
4. Dabbled in Theosophy for a number of years.
5. First political post was appointed not elected.

I'm not sure my knowledge of Thanksgiving has anything to do with being a "Good American".

I was just kidding about "being a good American" having something to do with knowledge of the Pilgrims. One can certainly know all there is to know about the Pilgrims yet be a rotten American, and one can be red-white-and-blue to the core yet not quite remember whether the Pilgrims were on the NIna, the Pinta, or the Santa Maria.
Still, one should know what those people went through. Americans are what they are, today, because of what the Pilgrims were in 1620.
My apologies to anyone who took offense at my quip.


Ron:
I certainly put thought into the influence of other settlers, and of course one can't say that settlers other than the Pilgrims weren't influential, but I really do think that the values of the Pilgrims were especially influential. The settlers at Jamestown, for example, didn't hesitate to use murder, torture, and terrorism to try to get the local people to contribute the labor needed to help the settlers get rich within a minimum of effort. Though such efforts were undeniably a precedent for many similar incidents throughout history (right up to today), ultimately, and fundamentally, we know such things to be wrong. American values swing radically in all directions, - left, right, and somewhere else - but eventually they swing back to a center point that resembles the values of the Pilgrims. Here's a link to an op-ed I wrote:
http://www.goodreads.com/story/show/4...
I'm sure a good case could be made that the Dutch or the native people or the Spanish were exceptionally influential, and I'd love to read someone's thoughts on that.

Glenn mentioned Jamestown's horrific treatment of the natives, though after initial peaceful overture's Massachusetts has similar incidents. It may be a European thing.
History--certainly American history is rife with the variance between our ideals and our behavior. That may be a human thing. (When you look closer, the "noble savage" was more savage than noble.)

Let's not confuse the Pilgrims with the Puritans.
Yes, the "savages" were often enough worthy of our contemporary definition of that word, but it has always touched my heart that when Massasoit and friends came to visit the Pilgrims, the Pilgrims were courageous enough to lay down their arms and invite the Pokanoket in. Massasoit did the same and accepted the invitation. Rather than try to scare them with a little shock and awe, the Pilgrims took a risk to give peace a chance. Granted, they had political reasons for doing so, but still, it's always beautiful to see Christians behave like Christians.

1. Born in the Midwest U.S.
2. Worked as the editor of an agricultural publication for many years.
3. Experimented successfully with high yielding corn strains.
4. Dabbled in Theosophy for a number of years.
5. First political post was appointed not elected.
6. Switched from being a Republican like his father to the Democratic Party.
7. His first Government appointment was to the same post his father had held 9 years earlier.

It couldn't possibly be that my question is too difficult or my hints too obscure. Could it?
Here's 2 more hints:
A Person:
1. Born in the Midwest U.S.
2. Worked as the editor of an agricultural publication for many years.
3. Experimented successfully with high yielding corn strains.
4. Dabbled in Theosophy for a number of years.
5. First political post was appointed not elected.
6. Switched from being a Republican like his father to the Democratic Party.
7. His first Government appointment was to the same post his father had held 9 years earlier.
8. Considered a radical by many, even in his own party, he proposed the total end of any kind of segregation and universal government health insurance in the 1940's.
9. He spoke out during the race riots in Detroit in 1943, declaring that the U.S. could not "fight to crush Nazi brutality abroad and condone race riots at home."

1. Born in the Midwest U.S. (Born in 1888 on a farm near Orient Iowa.)
2. Worked as the editor of an agricultural publication for many years. (Worked for "Wallace's Farmer" from 1910-1929)
3. Experimented successfully with high yielding corn strains. (Founded Hi-Bred Corn Co. It later became Pioneer Hi-Bred, Inc. and was sold to DuPont for 10 Billion Dollars in 1999.)
4. Dabbled in Theosophy for a number of years. (Became an acolyte of Russian Theosophist and painter, Nicholas Roerich. Later repudiated him.)
5. First political post was appointed not elected. (Sec'y of Agriculture under FDR. Appointed in 1933)
6. Switched from being a Republican like his father to the Democratic Party. (Supported FDR's New deal so he switched.)
7. His first Government appointment was to the same post his father had held 9 years earlier. (His father Henry Cantwell Wallace was Sec'y of Agriculture from 1921-1924)
8. Considered a radical by many, even in his own party, he proposed the total end of any kind of segregation and universal government health insurance in the 1940's. (Left the Democratic Party and ran for President as a candidate of the Progressive Party in 1948. These were part of his platform.)
9. He spoke out during the race riots in Detroit in 1943, declaring that the U.S. could not 'fight to crush Nazi brutality abroad and condone race riots at home.' (Self Explanatory) "
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A person:
1. Founded a newspaper.
2. Temperance speaker.
3. Two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Congress.
4. Married at 19.
1. Founded a newspaper.
2. Temperance speaker.
3. Two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Congress.
4. Married at 19.
A person:
1. Founded a newspaper.
2. Temperance speaker.
3. Two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Congress.
4. Married at 19.
5. President of a hospital.
1. Founded a newspaper.
2. Temperance speaker.
3. Two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Congress.
4. Married at 19.
5. President of a hospital.
A person:
1. Founded a newspaper.
2. Temperance speaker.
3. Two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Congress.
4. Married at 19.
5. President of a hospital.
6. Ran a popular lottery.
1. Founded a newspaper.
2. Temperance speaker.
3. Two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Congress.
4. Married at 19.
5. President of a hospital.
6. Ran a popular lottery.
A person:
1. Founded a newspaper.
2. Temperance speaker.
3. Two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Congress.
4. Married at 19.
5. President of a hospital.
6. Ran a popular lottery.
7. Jailed for two months, for libel against church elders, on the issue of blue laws.
1. Founded a newspaper.
2. Temperance speaker.
3. Two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Congress.
4. Married at 19.
5. President of a hospital.
6. Ran a popular lottery.
7. Jailed for two months, for libel against church elders, on the issue of blue laws.
A person:
1. Founded a newspaper.
2. Temperance speaker.
3. Two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Congress.
4. Married at 19.
5. President of a hospital.
6. Ran a popular lottery.
7. Jailed for two months, for libel against church elders, on the issue of blue laws.
8. Aquarium.
1. Founded a newspaper.
2. Temperance speaker.
3. Two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Congress.
4. Married at 19.
5. President of a hospital.
6. Ran a popular lottery.
7. Jailed for two months, for libel against church elders, on the issue of blue laws.
8. Aquarium.
A person:
1. Founded a newspaper.
2. Temperance speaker.
3. Two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Congress.
4. Married at 19.
5. President of a hospital.
6. Ran a popular lottery.
7. Jailed for two months, for libel against church elders, on the issue of blue laws.
8. Aquarium.
9. Grand Scientific and Musical Theater.
1. Founded a newspaper.
2. Temperance speaker.
3. Two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Congress.
4. Married at 19.
5. President of a hospital.
6. Ran a popular lottery.
7. Jailed for two months, for libel against church elders, on the issue of blue laws.
8. Aquarium.
9. Grand Scientific and Musical Theater.

2. Temperance speaker.
3. Two-time unsuccessful candidate for U.S. Congress.
4. Married at 19.
5. President of a hospital.
6. Ran a popular lottery.
7. Jailed for two months, for libel against church elders, on the issue of blue laws.
8. Aquarium.
9. Grand Scientific and Musical Theater.
This sounds like P.T. Barnum

I lived in the SF Bay Area and visited the site years ago.

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4. Ended in a famous siege.
5. Final victory achieved through the intervention of a traitor.
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A person:
1. Got his start at Camp Wigwam.
2. Contemplated selling children's underwear.
3. Emmy winner.
4. Commemorated on US postage.