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message 1351: by Will (last edited Jun 20, 2009 03:02PM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments A lesser son who came to power after Shebitku.

I'm spending the day volunteering at a cancer-family care home so will try to keep up the best I can.

Here yah go.

Person:

1. Intelligent but not formally educated
2. Brought law and order, modernization.
3. Accused of oppresion and corruption
4. Georgian heritage




message 1352: by Ted (last edited Jun 20, 2009 08:40AM) (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Joseph Stalin.


message 1353: by Will (last edited Jun 20, 2009 03:02PM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Nope.

I'm back; sorry.

1. Intelligent but not formally educated
2. Brought law and order, modernization
3. Accused of oppresion and corruption
4. Georgian heritage
5. Cossack Brigade
6. Invented surname



message 1354: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments 1. Intelliget but not formally educated
2. Brought law and order, modernization
3. Accused of oppresion and corruption
4. Georgian heritage
5. Cossack Brigade
6. Invented surname
7. Head of military
8. Died in South Africa
9. Buried in Egypt



message 1355: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments General P. I. Mishchenko


message 1356: by Will (last edited Jun 21, 2009 03:24AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Nope.

Person:

1. Intelligent but not formally educated
2. Brought law and order, modernization
3. Accused of oppresion and corruption
4. Georgian heritage
5. Cossack Brigade
6. Invented surname
7. Head of military
8. Died in South Africa
9. Buried in Egypt.
10. Abdicated, replaced by son





message 1357: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments 1. Intelligent but not formally educated
2. Brought law and order, modernization
3. Accused of oppresion and corruption
4. Georgian heritage
5. Cossack Brigade
6. Invented surname
7. Head of military
8. Died in South Africa
9. Buried in Egypt.
10. Abdicated, replaced by son
11. “Bridge of Victory”
12. Body moved home to a mausoleum



message 1358: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments You got it, Marco.


1. Intelligent but not formally educated
2. Brought law and order, modernization as did his grandson later, who was also exiled
3. Accused of oppresion and corruption, as was his grandson--the Shah
4. Georgian heritage
5. Cossack Brigade
6. Invented surname, as part of the modernisation; surnames weren't used there, then.
7. Pahlavi means, "Head of military"
8. Died in Jo'berg, South Africa, from a heart attack his doctor was treating for heart burn.
9. Buried in Egypt.
10. Abdicated, replaced by son by agreement with Russia after a military defeat.
11. Churhill called Iran “Bridge of Victory”
12. Body moved home to a mausoleum in Iran
13. “The Great” officially added to his name
14. Mausoleum later destroyed after the Revolution of 1979.





message 1359: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Marco, vous avez gagné. Qu'indications avez-vous pour nous?


message 1360: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Will
Quelles autres langues parles tu??


message 1361: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Whose turn is it, anyway?


message 1362: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Marco's turn


message 1363: by Will (last edited Jun 22, 2009 05:15AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I don't speak any language well, including English sometimes, Manuel, but over the years I've worked where it was critical for me to speak Arabic, Portuguese, Spanish, French, and Farsi to function well. Farsi is probably my weakest language, and Arabic I'm losing with lack of use. I get the chance to speak Portuguese and Spanish enough to kind of keep the cobwebs dusted off a bit, but I have to work harder and harder to remember words and especially spelling of French, Spanish and Portuguese.

Marco?


message 1364: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Robespierre?


message 1365: by Will (last edited Jun 22, 2009 08:22AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments What the heck is "Thermidorian Reaction"??? Ten minutes; wow.

I (kind of) know it's the opposite of the "Reign of Terror" but what is it? 9Thermidor? It's definitely a blank spot in my education.


message 1366: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I had to google it. I'd never heard of it either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermido...



message 1367: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
I ken "Thermidorean Reaction." Probably this will be the only "up" side to a course where if I heard one more reference to "the French Revolution as text" I was going to run mad through the streets!


message 1368: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I found it interesting they goofed with the calendar. Sure was a turbulent time & some of that was over debt they incurred to fuel our revolution.

Thing
1. 40 miles from L.A.
2. Self taught engineer
3. Design changed after start - not enough!
4. Didn't want farmers to know.


message 1369: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Its a term we used a lot in Political Science (one of my majors) and history.

The Thermidorian reaction is what happens in all revolutions.

All revolutions start off extremely idealistic, promising all sorts of wonderful and exciting new things (Sunshine and lollipops for all)
As the revolution progresses, the political elite realize that not all promises can or should be kept, and the idealism of the revolution and its goals must be realigned to more realistic expectations.

If you measure revolutions as a swing to the left: the Thermidorian Reaction is the swinging back towards the center or the right.

Robespierre's death was a reaction to the extremes of the French Revolution. He had been the main cheer leader of the revolution's excesses. No one was safe anymore. Anyone could be accused of not being a true friend to the rights of man and then sent to prison or worse. His death occurred during the month of Thermidore ( apparently the Revolution had renamed the months of the year)

In America, the Declaration of Independence is the beautiful example of the ideals and enlightened view of a young revolution.

The Constitution can be viewed as our Thermidorian Reaction. People realized America could no longer be governed under the loose arrangement provided by the Articles of Confederation and the Declaration of Independence. A stronger more realistic government was needed. Hence the Constitution.



message 1370: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments The California aqueduct??


message 1371: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Close, but not what i was looking for, Manuel.

Thing
1. 40 miles from L.A.
2. Self taught engineer
3. Design changed after start - not enough!
4. Didn't want farmers to know.
5. 12 billion gallons


message 1372: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments St Francis Dam disaster and William Mulholland???


message 1373: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) You got it!

Since I wrote them down, here are the rest of the clues, just for fun.

Thing
1. 40 miles from L.A.
2. Self taught engineer
3. Design changed after start - not enough!
4. Didn't want farmers to know.
5. 12 billion gallons
6. 125 foot wave at 18 mph
7. Original official death toll 385, now thought to be over 600.
8. built over the San Francisquito earthquake fault.
9. Mulholland


message 1374: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Mulholland and water are part of our history out here.


message 1375: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments I'll be a few minutes
before starting a new game


message 1376: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I googled it and still don't understand.


message 1377: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments dont understand what Will?
thermodorian reaction?


message 1378: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Thing


1. beloved
2. art deco
3. started with 3, then 2
4. considered youthful and stylish


message 1379: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I missed several posts, again. sorry. Yes, 9thermidor was what I still don't understand. It's okay; I'm getting old and learn slower each year. I do in the cobwebs of my brain remember the term from college. God, that was a long time ago.


message 1380: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) 9 Thermidor (a month) was the date it took place, Will. It was the French Revolutionary calendar. The rest of the world called it 27 July. check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermido...
According to Wikipedia again:
"Thermidor was the eleventh month in the French Republican Calendar. The month was named after the French word thermal which comes from the Greek word "Thermos" which means heat.

Thermidor was the second month of the summer quarter (mois d'été). It started July 19 or July 20. It ended August 17 or August 18. It follows the Messidor and precedes the Fructidor. During Year 2, it was sometimes called Fervidor."

There's more on that page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermidor
Weird, but interesting.


message 1381: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Thing


1. beloved
2. art deco
3. started with 3, then 2
4. considered youthful and stylish
5. made in France, 1927
6. captured by the Allies during WWII




message 1382: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Thing


1. beloved since inception
2. art deco motif
3. started with 3, then 2
4. considered youthful and stylish
5. made in France, 1927
6. captured by the Allies during WWII
7. British were so impressed, by WWII service, they named a rail road engine after this object.
8. Image can still be seen on labels of imported Brie cheese.


message 1383: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Airplanes? There is a plane on one of the Brie cheeses that we get occasionally.


message 1384: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments nope


message 1385: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Thing


1. beloved since inception
2. art deco motif
3. started with 3, then 2
4. considered youthful and stylish
5. made in France, 1927
6. captured by the Allies during WWII
7. British were so impressed, by WWII service, they named a rail road engine after this object.
8. Image can still be seen on labels of imported Brie cheese.
9. companions had tragic and similar accidents in New York and France




message 1386: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments My brie cheese label has the Arc de Triomphe on it.


message 1387: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I couldn't get the Arc de Triomphe to fit too many of the clues, though.


message 1388: by Will (last edited Jun 23, 2009 07:05AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments No, it wouldn't.

Maybe a car? The Sunbeam?


message 1389: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I was thinking of an airship, but don't know of any Brie cheese labels with one on it.


message 1390: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
The Normandie?


message 1391: by Will (last edited Jun 23, 2009 08:17AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments That's gotta be it, Susanna.

I never saw it on brie cheese, or cheddar or....


message 1392: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) What's the Normandie?


message 1393: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments SS Normandie, siezed by America and renamed. Lafayette, I think. Caught fire in New York harbor or something like that. My memory...grrrrr. Steam over electric design, fast, sleek, art deco interior, it's gotta be it.


message 1394: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Thanks. I read up on it a bit. Wikipedia says construction started on it in 1931, so I don't get #5. I don't get a couple of other clues, either. Hopefully, we'll get filled in when the answer is confirmed.


message 1395: by Will (last edited Jun 23, 2009 11:31AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Oops, there is that. I thought it was built during the 20's when everyone was building bigger, faster, sleeker, and then it all collapsed during the 30's. I'll have to check wiki or something.


message 1396: by Will (last edited Jun 23, 2009 11:01AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Yep, you're right. I thought maybe construction was begun in 1927 but no, it wasn't begun until 1931 so...oops. Hmmm....


message 1397: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
My mother remembers being taken to see the Normandie, when it was in its berths at New York and the military was giving it a makeover.


message 1398: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Susanna,
you are so very hot, you are almost burning up; but no.
that is not the answer.


message 1399: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Thing


1. beloved since inception
2. art deco motif
3. started with 3, then 2
4. considered youthful and stylish
5. made in France, 1927
6. captured by the Allies during WWII
7. British were so impressed, by WWII service, they named a rail road engine after this object.
8. Image can still be seen on labels of imported Brie cheese.
9. companions had tragic and similar accidents in New York and France
10. Served as an inspiration for the decor of a large Montreal department store.
11. Participated in one of the largest and most spectacular sea rescues since the sinking of the Titanic.
12. Tragic career closing. Ended life as a prop in a tacky disaster movie in 1960






message 1400: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
The Ile de France?


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