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message 1301: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I first thought you meant border states to Mexico like New Mexico, Texas and Arizona. Now, I'm caught up; I can be slow.

I'd have to look it up, but I think you're wrong. I think it freed all the slaves; they just didn't tell the slaves along the northern edge of the Mason-Dixon line for a while. Actually, in those states it was illegal to actually own slaves, they just sort of forgot to pay them, but they couldn't buy and sell them in an open market.

The family I knew was kind of insulated but not totally. The Germans in Brasil had their own compound. The Confederates in Mexico had a ranch and businesses in Mexico City, so they were forced to mingle while in the city and retreated to the ranch for the weekend where their only contact with local populous was with their servants and field hands.


message 1302: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
No, the Proclamation was good only in unoccupied, i.e., Confederate, territory.

Slavery was legal in the "border" states, which were kept by hook and crook and suspension of habeus corpus in the Union.


message 1303: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments You're right, Susanna, but it wasn't really legal with or without the Proclomation. The slaves didn't realize it, though. I could be wrong. I'll look it up...another day.


message 1304: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Sorry Will,
you are wrong about Emancipation in the border states. Lincoln and his cabinet didnt want to push the Border states into joining the Confederacy. The Emancipation Proclamation was a wonderful peace of rhetoric with lofty and noble goals, but in actuality it freed very few slaves; since the proclamation only applied to states in rebellion against the Union.

It did make the war more "holy" in that it transformed the war from a fight against secession into a fight against slavey.


message 1305: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. married 3 times
2. had 11 children
3. first marriage annulled by the Pope
4. Step-mother was also sister-in-law
5. 2nd marriage lasted two months, spouse died unexpectedly.
6. 1st marriage was to father's sibling.






message 1306: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. married 3 times
2. had 11 children
3. first marriage annulled by the Pope
4. Step-mother was also sister-in-law
5. 2nd marriage lasted two months, spouse died unexpectedly.
6. 1st marriage was to father's sibling.
7. 3rd and last marriage was to Victoria's cousin








message 1307: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Lucrezia Borgia


message 1308: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments good to see you in here again Ted,

alas not the correct answer


message 1309: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. married 3 times
2. had 11 children
3. first marriage annulled by the Pope
4. Step-mother was also sister-in-law
5. 2nd marriage lasted two months, spouse died unexpectedly.
6. 1st marriage was to father's sibling.
7. 3rd and last marriage was to Victoria's cousin
8. assumed the throne though older sibling and father were still alive.


message 1310: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Albert I, King of the Belgians?


message 1311: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments sorry Susanna
nope


message 1312: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Don't think so. Albert had 3 children. And Charlemagne, e.g., had 4 wives and 20 children. This is a toughie.


message 1313: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. married 3 times
2. had 11 children
3. first marriage annulled by the Pope
4. Step-mother was also sister-in-law
5. 2nd marriage lasted two months, spouse died unexpectedly.
6. 1st marriage was to father's sibling.
7. 3rd and last marriage was to Victoria's cousin
8. assumed the throne though older sibling and father were still alive.
9. assumed the throne amongst chaos, upheaval and civil war.
10. older brother sovereign of his own kingdom



message 1314: by Ted (last edited Jun 18, 2009 01:02PM) (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Assuming that this person is male, and that "Victoria" is Queen Victoria:

In order for his step-mother to also be his sister-in-law, she would have to have been married to both his father and a brother. I hope you don't you mean simultaneosly! And he married an aunt? This sounds more like ancient Rome save for the fact that there was no Pope.


message 1315: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
George I of Greece?


message 1316: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments looks like you guys (Susanna,Ted) are getting warmer
but no cigar!! yet


message 1317: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments The internecine aspects of this guy are pretty funky.


message 1318: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments I didn't mean internecine. I meant incestuous.


message 1319: by Manuel (last edited Jun 19, 2009 02:33PM) (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Merci Marco,
mais au jourd'hui nous parlons espagnol a chez moi.



?Hablas espanol Marco?


message 1320: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. married 3 times
2. had 11 children
3. first marriage annulled by the Pope
4. Step-mother was also sister-in-law
5. 2nd marriage lasted two months, spouse died unexpectedly.
6. 1st marriage was to father's sibling.
7. 3rd and last marriage was to Victoria's cousin
8. assumed the throne though older sibling and father were still alive.
9. assumed the throne amongst chaos, upheaval and civil war.
10. older brother sovereign of his own kingdom
11. helped develop the first railway in the kingdom


message 1321: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. married 3 times
2. had 11 children
3. first marriage annulled by the Pope
4. Step-mother was also sister-in-law
5. 2nd marriage lasted two months, spouse died unexpectedly.
6. 1st marriage was to father's sibling.
7. 3rd and last marriage was to Victoria's cousin
8. assumed the throne though older sibling and father were still alive.
9. assumed the throne amongst chaos, upheaval and civil war.
10. older brother sovereign of his own kingdom
11. helped develop the first railway in the kingdom
12. 2nd marriage to one of Napoleon's relatives




message 1322: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Is this someone well known? I mean he could be dyslexic and 5'3" and it still wouldn't help.


message 1323: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments This is a historical figure


message 1324: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Sorry, Manuel, didn't mean to be disrespectful. Just frustrated by this one.


message 1325: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments I didnt think you were disrespectful.




message 1326: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. married 3 times
2. had 11 children
3. first marriage annulled by the Pope
4. Step-mother was also sister-in-law
5. 2nd marriage lasted two months, spouse died unexpectedly.
6. 1st marriage was to father's sibling.
7. 3rd and last marriage was to Victoria's cousin
8. assumed the throne though older sibling and father were still alive.
9. assumed the throne amongst chaos, upheaval and civil war.
10. younger brother sovereign of his own kingdom
11. helped develop the first railway in the kingdom
12. 2nd marriage to one of Napoleon's relatives
13. Grandfather left ambiguous will regarding the succession, plunged the country into chaos.






message 1327: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. married 3 times
2. had 11 children
3. first marriage annulled by the Pope
4. Step-mother was also sister-in-law
5. 2nd marriage lasted two months, spouse died unexpectedly.
6. 1st marriage was to father's sibling.
7. 3rd and last marriage was to Victoria's cousin
8. assumed the throne though father was still alive.
9. assumed the throne amongst chaos, upheaval and civil war.
10. younger brother sovereign of his own kingdom
11. helped develop the first railway in the kingdom
12. 2nd marriage to one of Napoleon's relatives
13. Grandfather left ambiguous will regarding the succession, plunged the country into chaos.
14. stayed in power with help from Britain and France








message 1328: by Manuel (last edited Jun 19, 2009 12:05PM) (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. married 3 times
2. had 11 children
3. first marriage annulled by the Pope
4. Step-mother was also sister-in-law
5. 2nd marriage lasted two months, spouse died unexpectedly.
6. 1st marriage was to father's sibling.
7. 3rd and last marriage was to Victoria's cousin
8. assumed the throne though father was still alive.
9. assumed the throne amongst chaos, upheaval and civil war.
10. younger brother sovereign of his own kingdom
11. helped develop the first railway in the kingdom
12. 2nd marriage to one of Napoleon's relatives
13. Grandfather left ambiguous will regarding the succession, plunged the country into chaos.
14. stayed in power with help from Britain and France
15. received the Golden Rose from Pope Gregory



message 1329: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. married 3 times
2. had 11 children
3. first marriage annulled by the Pope
4. Step-mother was also sister-in-law
5. 2nd marriage lasted two months, spouse died unexpectedly.
6. 1st marriage was to father's sibling.
7. 3rd and last marriage was to Victoria's cousin
8. assumed the throne though father was still alive.
9. assumed the throne amongst chaos, upheaval and civil war.
10. younger brother sovereign of his own kingdom
11. helped develop the first railway in the kingdom
12. 2nd marriage to one of Napoleon's relatives
13. Grandfather left ambiguous will regarding the succession, plunged the country into chaos.
14. stayed in power with help from Britain and France
15. received the Golden Rose from Pope Gregory
16. surpassed Victoria in the number of children born; died at child birth.



message 1330: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Louis Philippe? Probably not...


message 1331: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Louis Philippe was a relative, but not the answer


message 1332: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Leopold I of the Belgians?


message 1333: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments another CLOSE relative, but no


message 1334: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. married 3 times
2. had 11 children
3. first marriage annulled by the Pope
4. Step-mother was also sister-in-law
5. 2nd marriage lasted two months, spouse died unexpectedly.
6. 1st marriage was to father's sibling.
7. 3rd and last marriage was to Victoria's cousin
8. assumed the throne though father was still alive.
9. assumed the throne amongst chaos, upheaval and civil war.
10. younger brother sovereign of his own kingdom
11. helped develop the first railway in the kingdom
12. 2nd marriage to one of Napoleon's relatives
13. Grandfather left ambiguous will regarding the succession, plunged the country into chaos.
14. stayed in power with help from Britain and France
15. received the Golden Rose from Pope Gregory
16. Died at child birth. Surpassed Victoria in the number of children born.
17. European monarch, though not born in Europe



message 1335: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Maria II of Portugal


message 1336: by Manuel (last edited Jun 19, 2009 02:25PM) (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Bravo Ted
Yes!

I thought it was interesting you kept thinking it was a man.

She married Ferdinand Saxe Coburg Gotha.
Her 2nd marriage was to the son of Napoleon's step-son.
Her 1st marriage was to her uncle.
Born in Rio


message 1337: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Good one, Ted - that one was tough!


message 1338: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Sorry guys,
this one wasnt supposed to be hard.

I was trying to stay away from those people that took 29 clues....to figure out...like Frida Kahlo.

Surprisingly, one of Maria II relatives died on that recent Air France disaster over the Atlantic


message 1339: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
I did consider women - and ruled out the ones I considered (e.g. Isabella II of Spain) as clearly wrong.


message 1340: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments I give up. But I complement you on a picking a person who is completely un-Googlable.


message 1341: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Maria II is always overshadowed by Victoria of Britain and Isabel of Spain.

I wish you would'nt give up.
You got it!!!


message 1342: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments I didn't see the Bravo, Ted. That's why I thought I was still in the dark.




message 1343: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Person.

1. proclaimed emperor at age 15
2. homosexual crush on a famous charioteer
3. married a Vestal Virgin
4. third marriage to a great-granddaughter of Marcus Aurelius



message 1344: by Ralph Gallagher (new)

Ralph Gallagher | 13 comments Elagabalus


message 1345: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Yes.. you got Ralph.


message 1346: by Ralph Gallagher (new)

Ralph Gallagher | 13 comments hehe I'm good.

Person
1. Nubian
2. Son of Piye
3. Rebuilt temple at Kawa
4. One of the greatest military tacticians


message 1347: by Ted (new)

Ted (efcorson) | 151 comments Shebitku


message 1348: by Ralph Gallagher (new)

Ralph Gallagher | 13 comments Nope


message 1349: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Taharqa?


message 1350: by Ralph Gallagher (new)

Ralph Gallagher | 13 comments Yes, you got it, Will.


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