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James
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Jun 12, 2009 11:34AM
Nope. I'll hold off before giving more clues.
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1. Born to a German-Jewish family2. Later in a life a high-church Episcopalian
3. Minority shareholder in the New York Times
4. Member of the tony Knickerbocker club, despite not being a Knickerbocker
5. Influential in the building of Central Park
1. Born to a German-Jewish family2. Later in a life a high-church Episcopalian
3. Minority shareholder in the New York Times
4. Member of the tony Knickerbocker club, despite not being a Knickerbocker
5. Influential in the building of Central Park
6. Loved horse racing
1. Born to a German-Jewish family2. Later in a life a high-church Episcopalian
3. Minority shareholder in the New York Times
4. Member of the tony Knickerbocker club, despite not being a Knickerbocker
5. Influential in the building of Central Park
6. Loved horse racing
7. Built a racetrack in a town that almost shares his name
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That's the one. I've often wondered if Belmont chose Elmont, NY, as the site of his racetrack because he liked the name.
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2. Playwright.
3. Journalist.
4. Given a state funeral - over 130 years after his death.
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1. Grandson of a slave.
2. Playwright.
3. Journalist.
4. Given a state funeral - over 130 years after his death.
5. Supporter of revolution.
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1. Grandson of a slave.
2. Playwright.
3. Journalist.
4. Given a televised state funeral - over 130 years after his death.
5. Supporter of revolution.
6. A subway station bears his name.
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1. Grandson of a slave.
2. Playwright.
3. Journalist.
4. Given a televised state funeral - over 130 years after his death.
5. Supporter of revolution.
6. A subway station bears his name.
7. Several illegitimate children.
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1. Grandson of a slave.
2. Playwright.
3. Journalist.
4. Given a televised state funeral - over 130 years after his death.
5. Supporter of revolution.
6. Memorialized on the Metro.
7. Several illegitimate children.
8. Fled to Belgium (and then to Russia) to escape his creditors.
I was going to say Victor Hugo, but he doesnt fit all the clues.I love the neighborhood near the Victor Hugo metro station
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Where in Paris is the Victor Hugo station, Manuel?
its at the Place Victor Hugo on the Avenue Victor Hugo (its one of the avenues that lead into the Arc de Triomphe
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1. Grandson of a slave.
2. Playwright.
3. Journalist.
4. Given a televised state funeral - over 130 years after his death.
5. Supporter of liberal revolution.
6. Memorialized on the Metro.
7. Several illegitimate children.
8. Fled to Belgium (and then Russia) to escape his creditors.
9. Moved to Italy (and started a newspaper there) to support King Victor Emmanuel II and the cause of Italian independence.
My brain isn't working yet this morning; I'll play later, but couldn't resist commenting on having a nervous breakdown every time I'm in the roundabout encircling the Arc d'Triomphe where the seven streets merge...OMG! Not for the feignt of heart or novice American driver. Good morning; my brain is still a bit fuzzy from too much partying, but I accomplished my goal of feeling a year older...maybe more than a year older...oops.
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1. Grandson of a slave.
2. Playwright.
3. Journalist.
4. Given a televised state funeral - over 130 years after his death.
5. Supporter of liberal revolution.
6. Memorialized on the Metro.
7. Several illegitimate children.
8. Fled to Belgium (and then Russia) to escape his creditors.
9. Moved to Italy (and started a newspaper there) to support King Victor Emmanuel II and the cause of Italian independence.
10. Essayist on famous crimes and criminals.
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1. Grandson of a slave.
2. Playwright.
3. Journalist.
4. Given a televised state funeral - over 130 years after his death.
5. Supporter of liberal revolution.
6. Memorialized on the Metro.
7. Several illegitimate children.
8. Fled to Belgium (and then Russia) to escape his creditors.
9. Moved to Italy (and started a newspaper there) to support King Victor Emmanuel II and the cause of Italian Independence.
10. Essayist on famous crimes and criminals.
11. Founder of a theater at Paris.
This is so frustratingIt sounds so familiar, Im fighting the urge to look it up on google.
Will, I know what you mean....
Nothing so spectacular as watching the traffic move around the Arc de Triumphe. I was standing on the observation deck on top of the Arc....
It looks like the world's largest traffic jam, thousands of cars converging on the same spot and confronting each other at 90 degree angels; yet they keep moving ......its like a noisy and fantastic ballet.
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1. Grandson of a slave.
2. Playwright.
3. Journalist.
4. Given a televised state funeral - over 130 years after his death.
5. Supporter of liberal revolution.
6. Memorialized on the Metro.
7. Several illegitimate children.
8. Fled to Belgium (and then Russia) to escape his creditors.
9. Moved to Italy (and started a newspaper there) to support King Victor Emmanuel II and the cause of Italian Independence.
10. Essayist on famous crimes and criminals.
11. Founder of a theater at Paris.
12. His home outside Paris, the Chateau de Monte-Cristo, is restored and open to the public.
It's "Triomphe" but I always spell it wrong first (as Marco did) and then usually (HOPEFULLY) remember to correct it later.
Actually Marco spelled it right. I was Manuel who defaulted to the English spelling.
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Okay, I actually went back to look who spelled it which way...my brain hurts and it was a tough weekend. Alexandre Dumas? W.A.G. based on the Chateau clue.
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Uh, ...oh, never really thought it coul be right; just knew the name from the Chateau de Monte Cristo. Let me think; what have we not done lately? A period in history? A major event? Long ago? More recent? Hmmmm...brb
An event: 1. No conclusive evidence the act was illegal
2. Called traitorous but did not fit the definition
3. Surprising victories
4. Ammons, Keener, Corbin
An event: 1. No conclusive evidence the act was illegal
2. Called traitorous but did not fit the definition
3. Surprising victories
4. Ammons, Keener, Corbin
5. Event occured during peace time
6. Compared by some to the American Revolution
7. Representative Madden, of Illinois, replied: "Those men were traitors to their country in its hour of need."
Secession from the Union/Civil War???
Bien sur, Marcomon arriere arriere grand-pere a venu a Mexique avec les soldats de Napoleon III
Yep, Secession from the Union. I was reading (In English) the southern spin on the war and their defense of the secession from the Union. I found it interesting in light of Texas' governor threatening secession. I'm not a lawyer but there is a reasonable case that the states do have the right to secede...sort of. Manuel, your great, great grandfather served in Mexico with Napoleon's army?
My understanding is that it is NOW illegal to secede from the union. However at that time it was assumed it was a state's right. Texas is a little different, since it joined the Union as a foreign country and kept some of its previous privileges. I always thought how awkward it must have been for citizen living in the border states that stayed loyal to the Union...Maryland, Kentucky, Missouri; not to mention the western counties of Virginia.
Yes Will,
Cinco de Mayo has always been an awkward holiday for our family.
Mexicans celebrating the defeat of the French army. Mon Dieu!!!!
Many French stayed in Mexico after Maximilian's defeat.
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I sometimes think our motto should be "The Little State that Started the Big War and Would Do it Again if it Thought it Could Get Away With It."
Manuel wrote: "...I always thought how awkward it must have been for citizen living in the border states that stayed loyal to the Union...Maryland, Kentucky, Missouri; not to mention the western counties of Virginia...."I read a book about "Beautiful Jim Keys" the smartest horse in the world & Dr. Keys, his trainer, was a slave in northern TN. Although the descriptions were brief, he & many in his town worked for & hosted both sides during the Civil War. His area, Shelbyville (?) was in the northern part of the state & for the Union. Pretty horrible situation.
Texas has the legal right to divide into up-to-five states but not the legal right to secede, by treaty as a previous sovereign nation. I think there were a LOT of divided loyalties during the War Between the States. (that's what my grandparents called it; never the Civil War)
I thought maybe he'd fought in the Battle of the Alamo, Manuel. No?
Cinco de Mayo isn't so much a celebration of winning (they ultimately lost) as it is of the Mexican people's beginning to feel a national pride and commonality of their identity and cause of self determination.
You're onboard, Manuel. What yah got for us?
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I figuredI had 8 great great grandfathers. (as we all do) and
7 out of 8 were Spanish or Spanish/Mexican; fighting against the French.
As far as I know, non of my ancestors fought in Texas, but many of them did fight against the American invasion in battles in Monterrey and Mexico City.
You are right Will,
Many people forget that though the French lost the battle of Puebla (Cinco de Mayo) they came back the next year and stayed 5 years.
Somehow the French that stayed in Mexico managed to assimilate themselves into Mexican society much better than the Confederate exiles from the American Civil war.
At least the French were Catholics and many spoke Spanish.
There are still Confederate families in Mexico today. They speak Mexican Spanish as well as form of an old fashion accented Southern English.
Person1. married 3 times
2. had 11 children
3. first marriage annulled by the Pope
4. Step-mother was also sister-in-law
I had a friend in Mexico who was from a family of Confederate exiles. They did speak a kind of southern drawl with a lot of Spanish mixed in, or Spanish with a lot of 'Americanisms' mixed into it. Funny thing was, I found it easier to understand than true Spanish. I had friends in Brasil who were from German exiled families. Step mother was sister-in-law? That sounds vaguely familiar. (no W. Virginia jokes)
Person 1. married 3 times
2. had 11 children
3. first marriage annulled by the Pope
4. Step-mother was also sister-in-law
5. 2nd marriage lasted two months, spouse died unexpectedly.
Ive always thought Mexican/Confederate families a bit too insular.The border states have always fascinated me.
Ironically many white slave owners from these states joined the Union cause against secession. Escaped slaves from these states were still returned to their masters during the war.
The Emancipation Proclamation freeing the slaves only covered the slaves from states in the Confederacy, the border state slaves didnt get their freedom until the 13th Amendment was passed after Lincoln's assassination.
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