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message 1051: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Cheater! you're going to the airport? That means we need a winner or the game gets stuck, right?

King P-234? Sired Royal King, the cutting horse. Famous line.


message 1052: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments You got it. Have fun. I will.

I' ve never really understood why his regristration number is always included and what the 'P' means. It has something to do with his being in the first Quarter Horses ever registered. I guessed it meant he was registered for his Performance, not his breeding.

Many people have told me he was from King Ranch, but I'm pretty sure they're wrong.

As a kid, we raised and bred cutting horses. As an adult, I raised barrel racing horses. Any foal with any King line in them were automatically worth mre for their disposition and conformation; coming down from King.

My stepfather's stud wasn't from King (as I mistakenly said) he was from Spooks, who was from King; my memory sucks. His name was Spooks Boy. (no apostrophe) One of the criticisms of him was that he wasn't very tall. King wasn't very tall, either--14.2 to 15 by reports.

There's the call for boarding. Hasta la bye, bye. Have fun.


message 1053: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Keeping up with what all the symbols & numbers mean in a registry is pretty tough. Could be because of his size; 14-2 to 15 hands is gray area. Too large to be a pony, too small to be a horse, so generally called a cob, but it depends on the breed.

Also, different registries have different requirements. Ponies of America (POA) & Appaloosas have a size & type requirement. IOW, they can be registered if they look like the breed. Quarter horses can be as little as 1/16th quarter horse while Thoroughbreds have to be 'pure'.

Different kinds of papers can be issued too. We had a POA with 'pink' papers, which meant she was out of a POA, but couldn't show as a POA (too tall). Her foals could get full papers if they met the conformation requirements, though. It's a weird, weird world out there.

Note: All the above is "I think". I wouldn't swear to it.

I'll post another clue, shortly. It won't be about an animal, I promise.


message 1054: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Person

1. Writer
2. His works predicted many of our modern conveniences.
3. Father made barrels.
4. Bred fancy chickens.


message 1055: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Jules Verne?


message 1056: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) No, not Jules Verne.

Person

1. Writer
2. His works predicted many of our modern conveniences.
3. Father made barrels.
4. Bred fancy chickens.
5. Peekskill Military Academy



message 1057: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Person

1. Writer
2. His works predicted many of our modern conveniences.
3. Father made barrels.
4. Bred fancy chickens.
5. Peekskill Military Academy
6. Wrote a story about a dead man he found.



message 1058: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Person

1. Writer
2. His works predicted many of our modern conveniences.
3. Father made barrels.
4. Bred fancy chickens.
5. Peekskill Military Academy
6. Wrote a story about a dead man he found.
7. Reporter in Chicago for the Evening Post.



message 1059: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Did he discover Oz?


message 1060: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Barbarossa wrote: "Did he discover Oz?"

I suppose that's one way of putting it. You got it. Frank L. Baum was pretty amazing.



message 1061: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Person
1) Wrote about space travel.
2) Handy with a blade.
3) Left a military career to follow his muse.
4) He died by wood not steel.


message 1062: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I think that was (Lyman I think) L. Frank Baum, but I could be wrong. I hope everyone is having fun. I am.

Died by wood, not steel? Hmmm....


message 1063: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Will wrote: "I think that was (Lyman I think) L. Frank Baum, but I could be wrong. I hope everyone is having fun. I am... "

Dyslexic moment. Please forgive. Lyman Frank Baum is correct & that he went by his middle name was one of the later clues I had ready.

On vacation again?!!! Tough life. Hopefully you're working on your tan & lack of sobriety.



message 1064: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Person
1) Wrote about space travel.
2) Handy with a blade.
3) Left a military career to follow his muse.
4) He died by wood not steel. (Well, that's one version.)
5) Badly wounded at Arras.


message 1065: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa 6) Wrote letters and plays as well. Mainly satirical.


message 1066: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Sounds like one of my favorite movies......

Does he have an extraordinary long nose??


message 1067: by Old-Barbarossa (last edited May 21, 2009 12:15PM) (new)

Old-Barbarossa You win.
It's Cyrano De Bergerac.
1) Wrote early satirical sci-fi that influenced Swift.
2) Duelist.
3) After serving and being injured twice he left the guards to write, his views being influenced by the horrors of war.
4) Either killed by dropped wooden piling, or shot in the head. He lingered for 14 months post injury.
5) Recieved a sword blow to the neck at the seige of Arras (where D'Artagnan also served) that caused continual problems for him.
6) Used the form of letters to highlight ideas and lampoon issues...and make smutty jokes.


message 1068: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. Known for love of golf (among other things)
2. Married 3 times
3. English spoken with an accent
4. Involved in famous family dispute




message 1069: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. Known for love of golf (among other things)
2. Married 3 times
3. English spoken with an accent
4. Involved in famous family dispute
5. accused of murder






message 1070: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. Known for love of golf (among other things)
2. Married 3 times
3. English spoken with an accent
4. Involved in famous family dispute
5. accused of murder
6. had the bad luck to have a mother-in-law from hell (twice)







message 1071: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. Known for love of golf (among other things)
2. Married 3 times
3. English spoken with an accent
4. Involved in famous family dispute
5. accused of murder
6. had the bad luck to have a mother-in-law from hell (twice)
7. collector of fine horses









message 1072: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. Known for love of golf (among other things)
2. Married 3 times
3. English spoken with an accent
4. Involved in famous family dispute
5. accused of murder
6. had the bad luck to have a mother-in-law from hell (twice)
7. collector of fine horses
8. Shares name with a French confection











message 1073: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Napolean? Meringue? Nougat?


message 1074: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments all great guesses Will.......but
Nope


message 1075: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1 Known for the love of golf (among other things)
2 married three times
3.English spoken with an accent
4 Involved in famous family dispute
5. accused of murder
6. had the bad luck to have the mother-in-law from hell (twice)
7. collector of fine horses
8.Shares name with a French confection
9. Subject of a great Italian opera


message 1076: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1 Known for the love of golf (among other things)
2 married three times
3.English spoken with an accent
4 Involved in famous family dispute
5. accused of murder
6. had the bad luck to have the mother-in-law from hell (twice)
7. collector of fine horses
8.Shares name with a French confection
9. Subject of a great Italian opera
10 Subject of two major movies 35 years apart. Both times by Oscar winning actors



message 1077: by Manuel (last edited May 22, 2009 11:33AM) (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Person

1. Known for the love of golf (among other things)
2. married three times
3. English spoken with an accent
4. Involved in famous family dispute
5. accused of murder
6. had the bad luck to have the mother-in-law from hell (twice)
7. collector of fine horses
8. Shares name with a French confection
9. Subject of a great Italian opera
10. Subject of two major movies 35 years apart. Both times by Oscar winning actors
11. Known for making notoriously bad decisions



message 1078: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Mary Queen of Scots?


message 1079: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Bravo
Susanna


message 1080: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments
Clues Explained

1. Known for the love of golf (among other things)
2. married three times: Francois II, Lord Darnley, Earl of Bothwell
3. English spoken with an accent....grew up in France
4. Involved in famous family dispute....Stuarts vs Tudors
5. accused of murder....Lord Darnley
6. had the bad luck to have the mother-in-law from hell (twice)....Catherine De Medici, Lady Lennox
7. collector of fine horses
8. Shares name with a French confection...Marie malade=marmalade
9. Subject of a great Italian opera...Maria Sturdia
10. Subject of two major movies 35 years apart. Both times by Oscar winning actors...Katherine Hepburn, Vanessa Redgrave.
11. Known for making notoriously bad decisions


message 1081: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
1. Son of a grain merchant and a singer.
2. Music critic.
3. Lifelong antagonism to schools and teachers.
4. Vegetarian.



message 1082: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Yeah, I had a history professor, an expert on the Stuarts, who always referred to Mary Queen of Scots as "the notorious bad picker."

Because if there was a bad decision to be made, she made it!


message 1083: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Hard to believe she and Elizabeth were cousins. Elizabeth seemed to have always made the wise decisions.

Ironically its Mary's decedents who sit on the British throne to this day.


message 1084: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
A person:

1. Son of a grain merchant and a singer.
2. Music critic.
3. Lifelong antagonism to schools and teachers.
4. Vegetarian.



message 1085: by Will (last edited May 22, 2009 03:27PM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments uh hum, not to be contrary; okay I am contrary, BUT...
Marmelade is incorrectly said to have been named for 'Marie est malade', 'Mary's illness' or 'Mary is ill'. The real origin is Portuguese for quince fruit, called 'marmelo' for 'quince', from which the original marmelada was made.

My problem is: Marmelade isn't a confection; it's a jelly or a spread and can be used with or in confections.

Never mind. Carry on. Congrats Susanna. ;)


message 1086: by Manuel (last edited May 22, 2009 03:58PM) (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Will, I like you being contrary ...........same as Mary

The story is probably apocryphal, but it is generally associated with Mary Stuart.

I meant "confection" in the strictest Oxford American Dictionary definition.....something made of various things, especially sweet ones, put together.......



message 1087: by Will (last edited May 22, 2009 07:05PM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Ahah! Different dictionary. Okay. Carry on. What would Oxford Americans know about French confections? Marmelade would be the sweet things in confections, not the confections, but hey, I really don't care; I just like being disagreeable--especially when I'm on vacation.

It really doesn't matter which Mary; it's from the word for quince. Have fun.

Oops, sorry Kelley. No kibitzing. I forget sometimes.


message 1088: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments In Spain and Mexico we make a sweet paste from quince, called cajeta.

Another vacation Will??


message 1089: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments is it Mario Lanza?


message 1090: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Yep, I'm in Costa Rica.

The sweet paste, cajta, can be traced back to the origins of marmelade from quince, later with orange. Now we have savory marmelades. I love watching the evolution of foods, architecture, and words across continents and cultures.

I had a magazine article rejected once because I traced cupolas from Arabia to Kentucky's barns with wind vanes on them. It was "too long, too detailed, and too expansive." Oky, but I found it quite interesting.

Oops, Kelley will be upset. bye


message 1091: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
Mario Lanza? No.

A person:

1. Son of a grain merchant and a singer.
2. Music critic.
3. Lifelong antagonism to schools and teachers.
4. Vegetarian.
5. Campaigned against the "witchcraft" of vaccination.


message 1092: by Old-Barbarossa (last edited May 22, 2009 11:21PM) (new)

Old-Barbarossa Manuel wrote: "Will, I like you being contrary ...........same as Mary

The story is probably apocryphal, but it is generally associated with Mary Stuart.

I meant "confection" in the strictest Oxford American ..."


To be contrary: It was "Bloody" Mary Tudor that was the contrary one in the rhyme. Not Mary S. It refers to her Catholicism and persecution of Protestants. The garden is the pile of dead as a result of her executions and the silver bells etc are contemporary slang for assorted torture devices...the thought of cockle shells make my eyes water.


message 1093: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Thanks Barbarossa........
but I could help combining the Marys; Will left me a PERFECT opening by using the word "contrary".....

I figured the two Marys were cousins......anyway......its all in the family


message 1094: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Didn't mean to sound pedantic...I just have geeky knowledge and fondness for the origins of nursery rhymes and a love of the period.


message 1095: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
A person:

1. Son of a grain merchant and a singer.
2. Music critic.
3. Lifelong antagonism to schools and teachers.
4. Vegetarian.
5. Campaigned against the "witchcraft" of vaccination.
6. Socialist.


message 1096: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads, Crazy Cat Lady (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 1011 comments Mod
It is indeed, Marco.

I didn't even get to use the clue that he called Brahms a "first-class undertaker," alas.

Your go!


message 1097: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments George Bernard Shaw.

I have some time to play today. We decided to just hang out here all day. Headed home tomorrow.


message 1098: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments How ironic, my desk is only 15 feet from a Karsh portrait of G.B Shaw.....


message 1099: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments MS-2000,XP, Vista?



message 1100: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Windows 2000, not MS, duh.


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