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message 751: by Will (last edited Apr 18, 2009 06:33AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I'm not sure it helps solving the clues, but when I shipped my washer and dryer from the U.S. to Saudi, they worked fine, but the timers ran slow due to 50hz vs. 60hz affecting the clock/timer. I transformed from 230v to 115v.

"Far off" might be stars and "time" would be in light years. Hmmmm..... I don't think they have conference rooms and upland farms on stars; summer camp, maybe.

I wonder if it might be Alexander Bain? He invented an electric clock and facsimile, among other things.


message 752: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) 11. translate literally into another language.


message 753: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments 11. 'tradure literal en un autre langage'


message 754: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Will wrote: "11. 'tradure literal en un autre langage' "

Every one likes a little ass, but no one likes a smart ass.

;-)

Having fun on the sunny beaches? It's raining here today, so Marg isn't going to the horse show. Luckily, I got most of the yard work done yesterday. It's supposed to rain the next 4 days. I guess I'll go play in the mud a bit & get the pole beans & spinach planted. I'm about a month late.


message 755: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments Jim
If I lived in the country,
You would be my ideal next door neighbor.

Someone who loves books and has practical farm knowledge too.


message 756: by Will (last edited Apr 19, 2009 04:05PM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments He loves guns, too Manuel, so maybe not the ideal neighbor.

This was a wierd year; late Spring sort of. I'll start on yard and garden chores when I arrive home tomorrow.


message 757: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Will wrote: "He loves guns, too Manuel, so maybe not the ideal neighbor..."

Except for a couple of shots at Cow birds & Starlings when they take over the bird feeders, I haven't shot anything in ages. I don't even target shoot. I'm also VERY careful of the direction I shoot in & what I shoot at, like all of my neighbors. They shoot fairly often.

I'd love to have you as a neighbor, Manuel. All my neighbors are really nice. We all get along well.


message 758: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments If they aren't nice, you can shoot 'em.

All mine are good neighbors, too; they're Democrats and don't shoot anywhere near my house.

This is an old argument Jim and I have been having. He thinks the world would be safer if everyone packed heat. I disagree.


message 759: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments All my neighbors are planting "Victory" gardens this year.
We figure we might save some money by growing our own urban crops.

This spring, Im up to my ears in lemons, lemons, lemons.....
we planted ONE tree two years ago and it keeps popping them out like eggs..


message 760: by Will (last edited Apr 20, 2009 03:40AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Aw, what a problem to have...too many lemons. Lemonade stand maybe?

We had a conversation recently, where we discussed Victory Gadens. It was on the news that they were from the Great Depression. I said they were from WWII, thus the name "Victory." Michelle planted one at the White House. I've had a garden everywhere I've lived all my life, even when I lived in an apartment. I consider a garden "therapy."

Oh, back to the game. I'll be home soon. I'm ready.


message 761: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Person
1. clock
2. power grid
3. 60 hz
4. May 21
5. 5 meeting rooms
6. upland farm
7. conference center
8. summer camp
9. edith
10. 'far off' + 'time'
11. translate clue 10 literally into another language.



message 762: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Sorry that the off topic remarks make you uncomfortable, Kelley. I wouldn't take any of it too seriously. I don't. I thought they were more in fun - a way of whiling away the time until someone made a serious effort to solve the current puzzle.

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I haven't put down any more clues since no one has asked for them & I think a few minutes of serious searching or thought will give up the correct answer. If I'm wrong, someone let me know...


message 763: by Will (last edited Apr 20, 2009 08:23AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments My apologies. Jim and I do this and we kind of enjoy it. Please, forgive me.

I'm home. Glad to be back...I think.

"Distant/recedentia y/et temp/vicis/hora/tractus"? Not helping me. I'm still not in thinking mode, yet.

Eon?


message 764: by Will (last edited Apr 20, 2009 08:39AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Camp Edith is a summer Girl Scout camp.

Florida is building a smart-power-grid solar city I'm told, on an upland farm; using 60hz solar power, probably, complete with a convention/conference center. No? Okay. I have to work, now; pay for playing.


message 765: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) You got close on the first guess, further away on the second, Will.

Person
1. Master clock
2. power grid
3. 60 hz
4. May 21
5. 5 meeting rooms
6. upland farm
7. conference center
8. summer camp
9. edith
10. 'far off' + 'time'
11. translate clue 10 literally into another language.

Note that the first clue has been expanded.


message 766: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments So far
I've never been bothered by the banter between Jim and Will. It provides some levity while Im searching and interpreting the clues.


message 767: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) No, Kelley. Not Edith Macy. Right general area, though.


message 768: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) No, it's a guy.

Person
1. Master clock
2. power grid
3. 60 hz
4. May 21
5. 5 meeting rooms
6. upland farm
7. conference center
8. summer camp
9. edith
10. 'far off' + 'time'
11. translate clue 10 literally into another language.
12. male


message 769: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I think Jim missed your last guess, Kelley. You were both posting at the same time. "No, it's a guy" is about Julliette Low, Girl Scout founder; not Henry Warren, whoever that is.

"Master clock" would be GMT? Atomic clock? Hmmmm....


message 770: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments John J. Creedon?


message 771: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Kelley wrote: "It's Henry Warren, inventor. Right?"

Hurray!!! Kelley got it!!!

Yes, Henry Warren invented a clock that used a synchronized electric motor. His company Telechron manufactured it, but it would only work if the current came in at 60hz. Back then, there were many separate power utilities & some used different frequencies. He built a master clock that helped them sync up into a power grid.

His farm, Upland, was later turned into a youth camp for handicapped kids, I think. His wife, Edith, was big into that. After their death, the main part of the farm became a conference center.

FYI, if you had Googled the first 3 clues with a comma between them, it brings up the Wikipedia article on Telechron as the first hit.

Go, Kelley!


message 772: by Will (last edited Apr 20, 2009 06:30PM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I'm still trying to figure out what language tranlates from "far off" + "time" into "Henry Warren."


message 773: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Will wrote: "I'm still trying to figure out what language tranlates from "far off" + "time" into "Henry Warren." "

Greek according to this Wikipedia article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telechron
No?


message 774: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Kelley, are we looking for an event, person, place or thing?

If it's an event, I'd guess the great fire of Rome in 64AD. Nero supposedly was singing about "the sack of Ilium" while the fire was going on. That could be the "victorious" clue. Early Christians weren't 'Anglicans' though. None of those until the mid 13th century.


message 775: by Will (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments Oh! (head slap) Greek! I didn't think of Greek. ...
I don't speak Greek.

I'm with you, Jim. How to connect Anglican to Rome and Nero?


message 776: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Could an 'Anglican' refer to someone like Queen Boudica who was from Iceni, now East Anglia? I would guess someone from Anglia would also be called an Anglican & the confusion with their religion might not be a big deal...

Nah, probably not. We'll have to wait for Kelley to elucidate.


message 777: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Jim wrote: "Could an 'Anglican' refer to someone like Queen Boudica who was from Iceni, now East Anglia? I would guess someone from Anglia would also be called an Anglican & the confusion with their religion ..."

Boudicca was a Briton not an Angle.
Anglian would be related to East Anglia. Anglican is church of England. Both from the same root though: Angle.


message 778: by Will (last edited Apr 21, 2009 07:48AM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I missed that Angle. (head slap) Ow!

So what did she have to do with Nero? I could look it up, huh?

Nero ruled Rome during that period? Got it.


message 779: by Jim (last edited Apr 21, 2009 08:07AM) (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I got it?!!! How weird. I hadn't really considered a person, I was going for an event. Give me a bit.

(I must say, I'm enjoying all the head slaps Will is giving himself!)

;-)


message 780: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Kelley wrote: "He was the Emperor at the time and after she led the revolt he almost pulled out of the Isle's."

Sorry for being pedantic on the Angle thing folks. I'm a Dark Ages geek, and occasionally I get ranty over wee things.


message 781: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Here's an easy one...

person
1. "Dialogues"
2. Toulouse University
3. Errors of the 'three who are one'
4. Burned at the stake


message 782: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Giordano Bruno?


message 783: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) No, Barbarossa, but a really good guess. It was interesting reading about him. 3 of the 4 worked. I didn't see where he wrote a "Dialogues" though.

person
1. "Dialogues"
2. Toulouse University
3. Errors of the 'three who are one'
4. Burned at the stake
5. pulmonary circulation


message 784: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa No 5 does it...then it must be Miguel Serveto.
Circulation had me wondering about William Harvey though that was systemic circulation.


message 785: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Barbarossa wrote: "No 5 does it...then it must be Miguel Serveto..."

You got it! He was a pretty interesting guy, too. A few disagreements on minor theological points & off to the stake. It's a wonder we ever got out of the caves.


message 786: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa Haven't played for a wee while. Let me ponder for an couple of hours and see what I can come up with...
Loads of people recently...maybe an event? I'll get back to you...


message 787: by Old-Barbarossa (new)

Old-Barbarossa OK.
A thing.
1) Maybe from the Levant
2) Maybe from Ireland
3) Stollen at least twice
4) A pillow or a seat


message 788: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments hmmmm
the Stone of Scone???


message 789: by Will (last edited Apr 21, 2009 06:21PM) (new)

Will Kester | 1047 comments I'm probably wayyy off, but in Celtic lore and Arthurian Legend, the stone seat of power was moved (stolen) and used as a base in Stone Henge by Merlin. The stone was said to have originally come from the East (probably Arabia) and brought to the British Isles by a Roman conqueror(as so often, I forget his name).

Manuel may be right, but the Stone of Scone is Scottish, not Irish.

Lavant was the name used for the Fertile Crescent of Ancient Phoenicia (sort of), the cradle of civilization.

But a pillow? Hmmmm.....


message 790: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments The stone of Scone is indeed Scottish,
but legend says it came from Ireland and before that the Middle East.


message 791: by Old-Barbarossa (last edited Apr 21, 2009 10:36PM) (new)

Old-Barbarossa Manuel wrote: "hmmmm
the Stone of Scone???"


Manuel wins.
No-one is sure where it came from, though I'm sure some CSI stylee Hx could link it to a source. One version of events say it came from the middle east (even going so far as to say it was used as a pillow by Jacob). One version says it was halfed with the other bit ending up as the Blarney Stone. Another says it was brought by the Dalriadans from Ulster when they settled the West of Scotland and links it to the Irish Lia Fail, though most agree that it and the Stone Of Destiny are not the same.
Documented thefts by Edward 1st of England in 1296, then again in 1950 by Scottish Nationalists who wanted to return it to Scotland.
Myth says the 1st theft took away a fake/decoy, and the second theft returned a fake/decoy. Most think that in both cases though it was the actual stone.
Called the Stone Of Destiny as Scottish kings were crowned while sitting on it, it resided at Scone where the ritual traditionally took place and therefore was also called the Stone Of Scone.
It was returned to Scotland in 1996, and is in Edinburgh castle...though some think that this is a fake/decoy.
Good Manuel...I thought this might have been a bit trickier.



message 792: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments In 8th grade
I made myself memorize all the English and Scottish Kings.
The Stone of Scone is one of those things that got stuck in my memory.


message 793: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments A person

1. Very famous beach named for this person
2. 2 loves
3. 6 marriages
4. 12 children


message 794: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments A person

1. Very famous beach named for this person
2. 2 loves
3. 6 marriages
4. 12 children
5. dropped out of school at age 12




message 795: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments A person

1. Very famous beach named for this person
2. 2 loves
3. 6 marriages
4. 12 children
5. dropped out of school at age 12
6. Inspired, Sir Mix a Lot






message 796: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments A person

1. Very famous beach named for this person
2. 2 loves
3. 6 marriages
4. 12 children
5. dropped out of school at age 12
6. Inspired, Sir Mix a Lot
7. After a lot of thought, turned down VERY VERY prestigious job. 1968








message 797: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments A person

1. Very famous beach named for this person
2. 2 loves
3. 6 marriages
4. 12 children
5. dropped out of school at age 12
6. Inspiration for Sir Mix a Lot
7. After a lot of thought, reluctantly turned down a VERY VERY VERY Prestigious job. 1968
8. criticized and embarrassed for supporting Mussolini's invasion of Ethiopia.


message 798: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments A person

1. Very famous beach named for this person
2. 2 loves
3. 6 marriages
4. 12 children
5. dropped out of school at age 12
6. Inspiration for Sir Mix a Lot
7. After a lot of thought, reluctantly turned down a VERY VERY VERY Prestigious job. 1968
8. criticized and embarrassed for supporting Mussolini's invasion of Ethiopia.


message 799: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments LOL
Marco,
Im sure a bright person as yourself will quickly deduce this person.


message 800: by Manuel (new)

Manuel | 1439 comments A person

1. Very famous beach named for this person
2. 2 loves
3. 6 marriages
4. 12 children
5. dropped out of school at age 12
6. Inspiration for Sir Mix a Lot
7. After a lot of thought, reluctantly turned down a VERY VERY VERY Prestigious job. 1968
8. criticized and embarrassed for supporting Mussolini's invasion of Ethiopia.
9. Became the talk of the "Normandie" after a very public clash with rival in the grand salon




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