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Movies, DVDs, and Theater > What MOVIES or DVDs have you watched? (PART FIVE - 2012) (ongoing thread)

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message 451: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments No, Sunday on CBS is not my thing, but I have used that method to add extra minutes to many shows I watch and it works. But if you don't 'Save' it using the yellow button, it won't work.
Just go back in to Options for one of the shows you adjusted and see what it says next to End Time, it'll have it right there without pressing any buttons.
Any changes have to be 'Saved' or it stays the way it was.

Good luck with it. And on Sunday night screw ups. My BIL watches The Good Wife and he told me this happens all time and he misses the end of it because it starts late.

About the bill, this confused me for a while, the cable box which has the DVR capability is $6 but the DVR service has it's own fee. I forget how much but more than $10.

You can't 'buy' a DVR box, you can only 'rent' it. Just go to TW office with the old one and they'll replace it at no cost. I have no idea why he said you can buy one. Nor should you, this is what you're paying for. I don't think you need a new box anyway, the DVR is functioning, it's CBS who's screwing up, a new box won't help that and you'll still have to program it the way I described.


message 452: by Earl (new)

Earl (read_for_entertainment) | 375 comments Jackie,
I thought he meant getting a box/DRV writer to OWN and save on the rental stuff. I'll look/research the DVR service charge, thanks. I suppose that's the main reason the girl said the final discounted (for a year) monthly bill will be $122 instead of somewhere near the $89 promised. I did ask the salesman was there ANY extra fees, he said OH NO. Those 'extra channels' above what's in the Post Star would be useless without the 'DVR service charge' I imagine. I do enjoy the BBC extra channels.


message 453: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments That's the good part about the DVR, you get a lot more channels by having the box.
Let me know if you find a DVR to buy. I'd be interested to know about it. Renting the box itself isn't much, $6.46 a month, it's the DVR service that's twice that and even if you own the DVR you still have to pay for the service, I think. Let me know what you find out about that too, please.


message 454: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Yesterday I watched "War Horse".
Below is from my review:
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War Horse by Michael Morpurgo (first published 1982)
Our local library catalog classifies the book as "Children's Fiction."

I didn't not read this book but watched the movie adaptation.

The movie was touching and exciting but sad in parts.
The horses were beautiful.

MOVIE: "War Horse" (2011)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1568911/
"Young Albert enlists to serve in World War I after his beloved horse is sold to the cavalry. Albert's hopeful journey takes him out of England and across Europe as the war rages on."

http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/War_H...
"Adapted from a novel by Michael Morpurgo, this majestic World War I drama centers on Devon lad Albert and his steadfast horse, Joey, whose faithful bond cannot be shaken -- even when Joey is sold to the cavalry and sent off to France."
Director: Steven Spielberg
Genres: Dramas, Dramas based on a book, Military Dramas, Dramas based on contemporary literature, 20th Century Period Pieces
This movie is: Heartfelt

AWARDS: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1568911/a...
Won "AFI Movie of the Year" and other nominations and awards

NOTE: Farm Boy was War Horse, #2, by Michael Morpurgo. (first published 1997)
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15...

Above is from my review at http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...
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message 455: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited May 13, 2012 07:57PM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments I'm in the middle of streaming the film adaptation of George Eliot's Middlemarch: A Study of Provincial Life (first published 1871) .
"Middlemarch" (1994) TV Mini-Series
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108858/
"This Masterpiece Theatre production, set at the cusp of the Industrial Revolution, chronicles, the life, loves, foibles and politics of the fictional English town of Middlemarch."
http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Middl...

There are so many characters that it takes a while to get oriented. I'm determined to make it to the end of the story. Even the names are daunting: Featherstone and Farebrother, Casaubon and Cadwallader, Bulstrode and Ladislaw. Everyone is related to everyone else. Plots interweave. You have to pay attention. :)

One of the user reviews at IMDb says: "With a beautiful music score, beautiful scenery, this adaptation is sensitively made..and memorable."

Since I'm streaming, there are no subtitles. It's sometimes hard to catch the names of some of the characters. So it takes a while to figure out who is who. I'm doing it with the aid of the Internet:
http://www.freebooknotes.com/summarie...


message 456: by Werner (new)

Werner Thanks for those links, Joy! That's a miniseries I'm sure I'd like; I'll have to keep an eye open for it on VHS or DVD. (Of course, even if I owned it, the next challenge would be finding time to actually watch it.... Sigh!)


message 457: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited May 14, 2012 10:51AM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Werner, maybe the following pics of the different main characters will whet your appetite for viewing the film adaptation of Middlemarch:

Dorothea Brooke: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/images...

Arthur Brooke (Dorothea's uncle): http://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes...

Will Ladislaw: http://lh3.ggpht.com/_0mbKhqrvEgM/Sph...

Dorothea, Arthur Brooke, and Will Ladislaw:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6ltQMbroWLE...

Dr. Tertius Lydgate:
http://postfiles2.naver.net/data43/20...
http://thewallmachine.com/files/13317...

Rev. Edward Casaubon: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I...

Dorothea & Casaubon: http://frisbeebookjournal.files.wordp...

Peter Featherstone: http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/Act...

Rev. Farebrother: http://www.tvsa.co.za/actorimages/846...

There's plenty more... :)

PS-I forgot this great pic of Mr. Bulstrode:
http://shaunhigson.photoshelter.com/i...


message 458: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments PPS-Unfortunately, IMDb doesn't provide pics of all the above characters. So I had to search many of them out one by one, especially if I wanted a good one. Anyway, this list will help me keep track as I watch the different episodes.


message 459: by Werner (new)

Werner Joy, thanks for going to all the work of tracking down those pictures. (My appetite's officially whetted! :-) ) It looks like they did a great job of casting --at least visually, in that I could easily picture these characters as looking exactly like this.

Robert Hardy, who plays Arthur Brooke, is a wonderful character actor. I know him mostly as Siegfried Farnon on the outstanding BBC series All Creatures Great and Small, but he's been excellent in other roles as well.


message 460: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments I remember seeing Middlemarch but can't recall the story. I might have to watch it again. You have made me curious.


message 461: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments I watched the new The Three Musketeers on the recommendation of one of Eric's friends who likes similar movies to me. This was not one of them, I watched half before I quit. It was trying to be funny and didn't quite make it. I wouldn't be interested in a comedic Three Musketeers anyway.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1509767/


message 462: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited May 14, 2012 07:41PM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments I am now about to stream (via Netflix) the 6th and last episode of the Middlemarch film. It has drawn me in. The acting is excellent. (The love stories break your heart. There are several of them, between 3 females and 5 males!)(heterosexual, of course)

I would recommend getting the DVD so that you can have subtitles to help you understand what they're saying and who is talking to whom. The names of the characters aren't clear at all during the dialogue... and there are lots of characters!

Today I discovered that I had actually read Middlemarch a while ago. I looked in my notebooks and found 7 pages of quotes which I had copied by hand (before this computer era). I also found some xeroxed copies of a critique from Masterplots, Vol 7 edited by Frank Northen Magill, pp 3879-3884. It starts out by saying:
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"In this story of the provincial English life of the mid-nineteenth century, George Eliot has contrived a work of art that exemplifies a theme both noble and coherent. The lives of her characters, as she reveals them, indicate the truth of the writer's statement that ideals are often thwarted when applied to an imperfect social order. This novel is an ample picture of many aspects of English social life during the Victorian period."
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Needless to say, this has all jogged my memory, although I remember nothing of the story from the book.

During my Internet search I found the following interesting page about Victorian Literature: http://www.online-literature.com/peri...
Excerpt:
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For many, the word “Victorian” conjures up images of over-dressed ladies and snooty gentlemen gathered in parlors and reading rooms. The idea of “manners” essentially sums up the social climate of middle-class England in the nineteenth century. Rules of personal conduct were in fact so inflexible that the Victorians garnered a reputation for saying one thing while doing another – an attack that the next generation of writers would take up with vigor."
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message 463: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Jackie wrote: "I watched the new The Three Musketeers on the recommendation of one of Eric's friends who likes similar movies to me. This was not one of them, I watched half before I quit. It was trying to be ..."

Jackie, Netflix has the following description of that movie:
The Three Musketeers (2011)
"The original three musketeers are past their prime and working menial jobs in Paris when their friend D'Artagnan rallies them to defend the nation. To do so, they must undermine Cardinal Richelieu's plot to have himself crowned France's next king."
FROM: http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/The_T...


message 464: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited May 18, 2012 07:56AM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments I watched "Albert Nobbs", starring Glenn Close, via a Netflix DVD yesterday.
"Albert Nobbs" (2011)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1602098/
http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Alber...
It was great. Very compelling. I gave it 5 Netflix stars. The character of Albert Nobbs was very touching and Glenn Close played it so well. I was also impressed with the acting of Janet McTeer, a very likable character.

In the bonus section I learned that they added to Glen Close's nose and ears to give her that strange appearance.

I'm glad I didn't know anything about the plot before seeing the movie. I think that fact made the movie more compelling for me. That sense of "where-is-this-leading to" helped to make the film even more intriguing.

The story was based on: Albert Nobbs: A Novella by George Moore.
Below are further details about the novella:
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Wiki lists the following as one of George Moore's works: "A Story-Teller's Holiday ... 1918". About this work, Wiki says: "This work contains the story later re-published in the collection Celibate Lives, 1927, as the short story "The Singular Life of Albert Nobbs" which was made into a 2011 movie, "Albert Nobbs", starring Glenn Close."
FROM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_M...
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I wonder who was instrumental in digging this great story out of the past and
making a movie out of it.


message 465: by Werner (last edited May 21, 2012 05:28PM) (new)

Werner Usually I don't say, on this thread, that I've recently "watched" a movie unless I watched the whole thing. In this case, though, I watched the entire True Women miniseries when it first aired back in 1997. And since I watched almost the whole thing again last night, I'm going to stretch a point and mention it here --just because, IMO, it's such an outstanding cinematic masterpiece that anybody in this group who hasn't seen it needs to be made aware of it! I consider it one of the best historical dramatic miniseries ever made (and Barb really likes it too; we own a copy on DVD, which replaced our homemade VHS tape).

It's based on the novel True Women by Janice Woods Windle (which I have not read, but which I understand was inspired by the author's own ancestors), and is set mainly in 19th-century Texas, with some scenes in Georgia, where the main characters are originally from. Some of the male characters are strong, admirable types, well-drawn and well-played; but as the title suggests, the main focus is on the women of the cast. The three central "true women" of the story are pioneer woman Sarah, her much younger sister Euphemia ("Pheemy"), and Pheemy's childhood friend Georgia, born into the planter aristocracy, but 1/4 Cherokee. Until tonight, I had never noticed that Georgia is played by Angelina Jolie; her performance is so pitch perfect that you see her completely as the character without being conscious of her as an actress at all --a feat that says something about Jolie's skill and range as an actress. (Georgia's tempestuous personality is a far cry from Lady Croft's icy-cool, tightly-controlled demeanor in the Tomb Raider movies.) Dana Delany and Annabeth Gish (Sarah and Pheemy, respectively), turn in stellar performances as well.

Our characters here, over a period of decades, find themselves involved in some of the most dramatic and morally challenging events and conflicts of their day: Texas' war for independence, the Trail of Tears, the Indian wars (with atrocities on both sides) and subjugation and dispossession of the Comanches, the trauma of slavery, the Civil War and Reconstruction, and the fight for women's suffrage. Throw in cholera epidemics, potentially lethal childbirth, physical hardship and danger galore, and you get a strong sense that the women who were full partners with their men in birthing a better world for their descendants were anything but a "weaker sex!" With round, dynamic characters, a really well written script, moral discernment that recognizes the reality of good and evil but has a sympathetic sensitivity to all the shades of gray that humans have to struggle with in a messed-up world, and a profound testament to the value of family and friendship, this is a winner all around. If you ever get a chance to see it on TV or to grab up the DVD, my advice is do it --I think you'll be glad you did!

The link for more information is: www.imdb.com/title/tt0118499 .


message 466: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments That sounds so good! I want to see it.


message 467: by Werner (last edited May 21, 2012 05:56PM) (new)

Werner It was on the inspirational network (INSP), which here is Channel 53, late last night. (Like a lot of their programming, however, it's not Christian drama per se, though it is respectful of the role of faith in the character's lives.) I don't know if they have any plans to do an encore presentation or not. In any case, though, the DVD version should be available for purchase, and it might also be the sort of thing Netflix would have!


message 468: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments I'm going to try the library.


message 469: by Werner (new)

Werner Hope you find it there, Jackie!


message 470: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited May 23, 2012 05:51PM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Werner wrote: "Usually I don't say, on this thread, that I've recently "watched" a movie unless I watched the whole thing. In this case, though, I watched the entire True Women miniseries when it first aired bac..."

Werner, thank goodness that Netflix has it!
"True Women" (1997)
http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/True_...
"Based on a true story, this adaptation of Janice Woods Windle's novel is set in the plains of West Texas during the Civil War. Sarah McClure (Dana Delany) and her sister, Euphemia (Annabeth Gish), struggle to survive in this male-dominated land. When their homestead falls under attack by Mexican rebels and American Indian tribesmen, the two must find a way to bring their family to safety before it's too late."

I've put it on my Netflix queue and moved it to the to the top of the list. There is a "very long wait". So it MUST be as good as you say it is!

PS-I've put in a request for it at our public library and they have it. So now I just have to wait for notification that it's ready. As far as I could see at the online catalog, it was in and available. So I should be getting it soon.

Thanks, Werner. I look forward to seeing it.


message 471: by Werner (new)

Werner You're welcome, Joy! Hope you like it.

I'm not sure who writes Netflix's descriptions, and I suspect that he/she doesn't base them on actual viewing of the films. :-) In this case, the setting is eastern Texas, not West Texas, and the time frame is much broader than just the Civil War. There are no "Mexican rebels" in the movie, and this particular description apparently conflates two unrelated incidents. (But at least they spelled the ladies' names right!)


message 472: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments I don't know how they get the descriptions so wrong.

I wanted to go see The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel and it's not playing anywhere around here! I rarely go to movies, it figures the one I want to see isn't playing.
Look at this cast: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1412386/
And the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDY89L...


message 473: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Werner wrote: "...I'm not sure who writes Netflix's descriptions, and I suspect that he/she doesn't base them on actual viewing of the films. :-) ... (But at least they spelled the ladies' names right!) "

LOL - Werner, that is priceless! I feel like notifying Netflix about that. Maybe I will! :)


message 474: by Werner (new)

Werner Jackie, my guess is that they get the descriptions wrong because they don't actually watch the movies (unless they happen to have seen some of them outside of work). They just hurriedly skim a synopsis of the plot and go from there, with imagination and free association filling in the rest. (In the case of the Jamaica Inn miniseries description, it was no doubt written by somebody who'd see the Hitchcock movie, and just assumed that the plot was the same.)

Joy, even if you complained, I doubt that Netflix would change anything. The bottom line is that it takes time to watch a movie, and they have to describe a LOT of movies. Paying somebody to watch them would cost a lot of wages, raising overhead (and of course prices). So probably all that Netflix customers can do is realize that the descriptions need to be taken with a grain of salt. (Or perhaps a block of salt....)


message 475: by Jackie (last edited May 24, 2012 08:22AM) (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments What Netflix could do is ask their subscribers to write synopses after viewing the film, and have an employee choose the best sounding one. Or use those to form a more accurate one.
I think subscribers would be willing to do it because it'd make a better site and be beneficial to them in the long run.
It couldn't hurt for them to ask and see what happens.


message 476: by Werner (new)

Werner Jackie, I'm not a Neflix subscriber myself, but I think that's a great idea! Even if not all of their viewers did this, I think enough would that it would make a real improvement.


message 477: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments Another idea is to copy what imdb has, they have longer plot summaries and plot synopses and I think it's written by viewers, not sure about that but I've seen so many different names as to who it's written by and no tag indicating employment by any source. Some are even written by Anonymous.


message 478: by Werner (new)

Werner The problem Netflix would have in using imdb's movie descriptions is that whoever writes them has a copyright interest in them (regardless of whether or not the copyright is registered). So they'd probably hesitate to open up that can of worms. But from the limited comparison I've done of the two sites, I agree that imdb has much more detailed (and accurate, as near as I can tell) data, and serves potential viewers much better!


message 479: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments Then they can read imdb's description and write an original based on it.
I figured that if they used imdb's word-for-word, there would be issues, or maybe they can pay a nominal fee.
Either way, I think Netflix should have accurate descriptions or nothing at all.


message 480: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited May 24, 2012 11:11AM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Werner wrote: "... So probably all that Netflix customers can do is realize that the descriptions need to be taken with a grain of salt. (Or perhaps a block of salt....) "

I think Werner's "grain of salt" idea is a good one. :)


message 481: by Werner (new)

Werner Jackie wrote, "I think Netflix should have accurate descriptions or nothing at all."

I agree completely! I get that they have economic issues with watching the movies before they describe them; but they obviously get some kind of plot summaries from the producers when they buy the rights to use the films, and they DO have time to read them decently before drafting the descriptions customers use to make decisions about what movies to rent. (And as Jackie noted, they could consult imdb for information without copying it verbatim; that would probably take what, two minutes?) If they have time to slop over something and do a poor job, they have time to do a good one; the issue here isn't so much one of time as of having any kind of work ethic to care about what they're supposed to be doing. The business culture of the U.S. today tends to have an attitude of laziness rampant, anything goes, the customer be hanged (but don't get me started on that subject.... ).


message 482: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited May 24, 2012 09:07PM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments I'm watching "Dune". Ever since you folks talked about the book, Dune, I've wondered about what the plot might be like. So now I'm satisfying my curiosity. Sheesh, all those unusual names! I can't wrap my head around them.

"Dune" (1984)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087182/
http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Dune/...
Netflix description: "In the year 10,191, the world is at war for control of the desert planet Dune -- the only place where the time-travel substance Spice can be found. But when one leader gives up control, it's only so he can stage a coup with some unsavory characters. Frank Herbert's popular sci-fi novel gets mesmerizing treatment from director David Lynch, who casts Kyle MacLachlan as protagonist Paul Altreidis and rock musician Sting as the villainous Feyd."
"This movie is: Dark, Imaginative"

What did you think of the Netflix description (above)? :)


message 483: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments Joy, Minimalist synopsis but mostly accurate, if understated. And that's perfectly fine. The part about the leader who gives up control, he didn't exactly give up control, he was commanded by the Emperor, but it's a minor thing and doesn't matter in regards to the plot.
I don't agree with 'Dark' but I do with 'Imaginative'.

I'm interested what you think of the movie, Joy. Let us know when you've finished, or even if you don't. It's a long movie and it gets very deep, it may be hard to follow but try to bear with it, it's an amazing story.

"The Spice Must Flow"

Werner, I feel the same about no work ethics anymore, hardly anyone takes pride in their work. I don't get it. When I work, I strive to be my very best.


message 484: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited May 24, 2012 10:04PM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Jackie, so far I'm having trouble following the movie plot of "Dune". A lot of time is taken up with special effects. So the plot (which I don't yet understand because I still don't know who is who) is going slowly.

I can understand the value of "spice". Everybody wants it. :) I like the idea that they can travel in space (without moving) by "folding" space. It reminds me about the scientific theory about space having a "warp" in it. Not that I understand that either! LOL

Francesca Annis ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia... ) is pretty as Lady Jessica. I've seen her somewhere before but can't think where. (Maybe in "Edward the King" as Lillie Langtry.)

I'll keep you posted.


message 485: by Werner (last edited May 25, 2012 04:17AM) (new)

Werner There have been several movie adaptations of Dune (at least three, I think). I haven't seen any of them, but I seem to recall reading that most serious fans of the series weren't really pleased with any of them. Of course, that's understandable; the great strength of the book lies in its detailed world building, character development, and philosophical complexity, and it's very difficult to translate any of that to a movie. (The film adaptation of Eragon has a similar problem.)


message 486: by Jackie (last edited May 25, 2012 07:39AM) (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments Joy, I wouldn't think you'd like it but it's good to try it, right? Folded space, this is easy; the Holtzman engines allow for space to be twisted, or folded. Take a piece of paper and bring one end to the other so two opposite ends touch, creating a U shape with the paper except the top of the U's arms touch, now picture you on one end, me on the other, see how those two end will be drawn together so you and I can touch? That's folded space. That's about as close as I can explain it and still be understandable. I spent a lot of time figuring this out since Frank never bothered to explain it properly.

Werner,
The difference between the Dune and the Eragon adaptations is that Dune stayed true to the story though much of it was cut for time. Eragon, on the other hand, was completely changed, only the bare bones of the story remained. Now that was a disappointment. I can't believe I went to the theater and spent money on that!


I am a huge Dune fan, it's my favorite scifi series. I would consider myself a serious Dune fan. The David Lynch one was good, that's the one Joy is watching. The other 2 are not Dune, one is, the other is another book, Children of Dune; both were done by Syfy, anyone that had high expectations from Syfy would deserve to be disappointed knowing the caliber of their original movies. lol
The only problem I had with the David Lynch version is that so much had to be cut for time. Which I understand, you can't pack 600+ pages into 3 hours. I'd like to see HBO make it into a series, 10 or 12 one hour episodes should allow it to remain as comprehensive as the book is.

Frank Herbert was complimentary towards Lynch's film adaptation, and that's more important to me that some puffed up Dunatics ripping on it. (Dunatic = Dune + Lunatic, and yes, I made that word up, lol)

I know a lot of Dune fans weren't pleased, but nothing would please them except for Frank climbing out of his grave. They don't want to like it. I've met so many of this type of Dune fan, they're too rigid and exclusive, thinking themselves superior. They're not true fans as far as I'm concerned. I believe true fans fully embrace the Duniverse, like I do. Sure there's times when I may not like something in the new Dune books, but I'm willing to give it chance, not hate it automatically just because Frank isn't involved. Sorry he's dead but move on, let others take the torch and enjoy the ride.


message 487: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Werner wrote: "There have been several movie adaptations of Dune (at least three, I think). I haven't seen any of them, but I seem to recall reading that most serious fans of the series weren't really pleased wi..."

Werner, yes, I figured that would be the case.


message 488: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited May 25, 2012 09:00AM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Jackie wrote: "Joy, I wouldn't think you'd like it but it's good to try it, right? Folded space, this is easy; the Holtzman engines allow for space to be twisted, or folded. Take a piece of paper and bring one ...
... The David Lynch one was good, that's the one Joy is watching. ...
... Frank Herbert was complimentary towards Lynch's film adaptation, and that's more important to me that some puffed up Dunatics ripping on it. (Dunatic = Dune + Lunatic, and yes, I made that word up, lol) ..."


Jackie, thanks for your interesting comments about "Dune". I like the word you made up. LOL

Your explanation of "folded space" was excellent. Thanks.

I'm still watching "Dune" (1984)(Director David Lynch's adaptation). Haven't gotten very far. I'm taking it in small doses. :)


message 489: by Werner (last edited May 25, 2012 09:15AM) (new)

Werner Jackie, if I ever watch a Dune adaptation, I'll make sure it's the David Lynch one! (I trust your recommendation.) I'm not a Dunatic, so it won't bother me if Frank Herbert wasn't involved. :-)

The time limitations of a typical movie are a problem in adapting a long, textured novel. That's why a minseries (or multiple movies) is an approach that's much more apt to do it justice.


message 490: by Jackie (last edited May 25, 2012 09:29AM) (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments Werner, lol, I know you're not a Dunatic. I really shouldn't make fun of them, but they make it too easy. And they give as good as they get, I've been called many names by them. It doesn't bother me, different strokes.
If you ever get the chance, try Lynch's version. It's old so the scifi effects may be hokey, but that doesn't bother me either.
I recently re-read all the Dune, 15 or so. I think it's time to bust out the old VHS tape and watch it again. Now that nothing's on TV....

The only problem with miniseries is the expense, the producers don't want to put out that kind of money. But now that we've seen the success of HBO's True Blood and Game of Thrones, Showtimes' Dexter (I'm sure there's others), maybe we'll get some more of our beloved series on the little screen. That works for me, I'd rather watch a pay cable channel than go to the theater anyway.


message 491: by Werner (new)

Werner I'll keep an eye out for the Lynch version at Food City, and when I'm shopping at the flea market, etc. (I've seen Dune versions for sale in those venues, but now I know which one is worth looking for!)

We can hope to see more quality miniseries! I'd rather watch the small screen than go to a theater, too (though we don't have paid cable).


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Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments The VHS copy I have, I got at a yardsale for $1. That's the good thing about old movies, they're cheap.


message 493: by Werner (new)

Werner Jackie, I agree 100%! (Contrary to what some people think, VHS technology isn't obsolete --as long as some people are still using something, it's not "obsolete.") :-)


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Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments I have a lot of VHS tapes and I'm not willing to go out and buy them all over again on DVD. I don't have the money for that. My VCR works, I don't use it much but it's there when I need it.


message 495: by Werner (new)

Werner Same here, Jackie!


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Jim (jimmaclachlan) "Dark Shadows" was pretty good. Not as funny as I thought it would be, but there was a fair amount of subtle humor with a quite serious streak running throughout. Depp delivered his lines with his typical precision. The way he made long, archaic phrases trip off his tongue was just incredible.


message 497: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments I want to see Dark Shadows but I'll wait for the DVD. Depp plays those weird part perfectly.

I'm watching the newest Underworld. Awakening.
If you liked the other ones, then you'll like this one, more of the same.


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Jim (jimmaclachlan) I really liked the first 'Underworld' & found the rest watchable, if not particularly memorable. I'll be watching it, possibly today. It's supposed to be in the mid 90's, a little warmer than yesterday, so I have a feeling I'll be laying around this afternoon. I have to mow the lawn, do some weedeating & watering, but otherwise am fairly caught up. I could spray the fences & the lane... We'll see. I might just turn a few bowls.


message 499: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited May 26, 2012 06:29AM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Jackie wrote: "... Lynch's version. It's old so the scifi effects may be hokey, but that doesn't bother me either. ..."

Well, I finished watching "Dune". As Jackie said, the special effects are hokey. In fact, they're almost outlandish at this point. As for the plot, the main idea is fairly simple, but the details were fuzzy to me because there were so many characters whose functions weren't completely clear to me. As I got into it, their roles became clearer but by that time it was too late. :)

I liked the way the credits at the end showed a separate screen for each main character and the actor who portrayed him/her. This helped me learn the actors' names or reminded me of them. Of course, Jose Ferrer was familiar but I kept forgetting his real name. Same with Patrick Stewart, Sting, Dean Stockwell, and Max von Sydow.

As for the character names and the names of the places, they're too strange or too long to remember. I do remember "Paul" and "Jessica". :) At least those are familiar names! The custom of using strange names in sci-fi stories is annoying to me but I guess it has its purposes.

BTW, I watched "Inglourious Basterds" (2009) last night on TNT.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361748/
Missed the beginning but saw most of it. Extremely tense and compelling! Couldn't stop watching. Brad Pitt was in it but Christoph Waltz stole the show.
http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photo...
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l2i...
Waltz won an Oscar as an actor in a supporting role.

You need to take a tranquilizer before you see that movie! (Inglorious Basterds) LOL


message 500: by Jackie (last edited May 26, 2012 07:11AM) (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4050 comments Patrick Stewart! Now that's an actor I'll always watch. I've never seen him in a role I didn't like. Gurney Halleck is among my favorite characters in Dune.
I would love to see the effects in a new version of Dune. Once again it's slated for a new movie version but I wouldn't hold my breath on it. It's been announced many times before.
Back when this was made, we weren't very advanced in special effect technology. Less than a decade after Star Wars, and that's where effects really began with Industrial Light and Magic. At the time, it really was magic, and they still wield it, amazing imaginations and technology. In the 35 years since ILM has been around they've garnered 23 scifi tech awards and 15 Oscars.

I think the only reason for the crazy names is so you get the scene you're not on earth any more. ??? Jim, do you have any ideas on why the crazy names?

I watched Inglourious Basterds, it was OK, nothing special to me. I'm pretty sure I was bored. Wasn't it partially a comedy? I can't remember, it didn't leave a lasting impression on me.
Anthony was the one who wanted to see it, not me. The only reason I'm forced to watch Anthony's movies is that he rents them and then they sit there unless I say 'Right now, let's watch this'. That's a good reason for me to not care for the film, being forced to watch it when I never wanted to see it to begin with. Men. Can't shoot 'em. lol Just kidding, all you wonderful and awesome men in this group!


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