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What MOVIES or DVDs have you watched? (PART FIVE - 2012) (ongoing thread)

I thought he meant getting a box/DRV writer to OWN and save on the rental stuff. I'll look/research the DVR service charge, thanks. I suppose that's the main reason the girl said the final discounted (for a year) monthly bill will be $122 instead of somewhere near the $89 promised. I did ask the salesman was there ANY extra fees, he said OH NO. Those 'extra channels' above what's in the Post Star would be useless without the 'DVR service charge' I imagine. I do enjoy the BBC extra channels.

Let me know if you find a DVR to buy. I'd be interested to know about it. Renting the box itself isn't much, $6.46 a month, it's the DVR service that's twice that and even if you own the DVR you still have to pay for the service, I think. Let me know what you find out about that too, please.

Below is from my review:
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War Horse by Michael Morpurgo (first published 1982)
Our local library catalog classifies the book as "Children's Fiction."
I didn't not read this book but watched the movie adaptation.
The movie was touching and exciting but sad in parts.
The horses were beautiful.
MOVIE: "War Horse" (2011)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1568911/
"Young Albert enlists to serve in World War I after his beloved horse is sold to the cavalry. Albert's hopeful journey takes him out of England and across Europe as the war rages on."
http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/War_H...
"Adapted from a novel by Michael Morpurgo, this majestic World War I drama centers on Devon lad Albert and his steadfast horse, Joey, whose faithful bond cannot be shaken -- even when Joey is sold to the cavalry and sent off to France."
Director: Steven Spielberg
Genres: Dramas, Dramas based on a book, Military Dramas, Dramas based on contemporary literature, 20th Century Period Pieces
This movie is: Heartfelt
AWARDS: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1568911/a...
Won "AFI Movie of the Year" and other nominations and awards
NOTE: Farm Boy was War Horse, #2, by Michael Morpurgo. (first published 1997)
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15...
Above is from my review at http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...
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"Middlemarch" (1994) TV Mini-Series
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108858/
"This Masterpiece Theatre production, set at the cusp of the Industrial Revolution, chronicles, the life, loves, foibles and politics of the fictional English town of Middlemarch."
http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Middl...
There are so many characters that it takes a while to get oriented. I'm determined to make it to the end of the story. Even the names are daunting: Featherstone and Farebrother, Casaubon and Cadwallader, Bulstrode and Ladislaw. Everyone is related to everyone else. Plots interweave. You have to pay attention. :)
One of the user reviews at IMDb says: "With a beautiful music score, beautiful scenery, this adaptation is sensitively made..and memorable."
Since I'm streaming, there are no subtitles. It's sometimes hard to catch the names of some of the characters. So it takes a while to figure out who is who. I'm doing it with the aid of the Internet:
http://www.freebooknotes.com/summarie...


Dorothea Brooke: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/images...
Arthur Brooke (Dorothea's uncle): http://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes...
Will Ladislaw: http://lh3.ggpht.com/_0mbKhqrvEgM/Sph...
Dorothea, Arthur Brooke, and Will Ladislaw:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6ltQMbroWLE...
Dr. Tertius Lydgate:
http://postfiles2.naver.net/data43/20...
http://thewallmachine.com/files/13317...
Rev. Edward Casaubon: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I...
Dorothea & Casaubon: http://frisbeebookjournal.files.wordp...
Peter Featherstone: http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/Act...
Rev. Farebrother: http://www.tvsa.co.za/actorimages/846...
There's plenty more... :)
PS-I forgot this great pic of Mr. Bulstrode:
http://shaunhigson.photoshelter.com/i...


Robert Hardy, who plays Arthur Brooke, is a wonderful character actor. I know him mostly as Siegfried Farnon on the outstanding BBC series All Creatures Great and Small, but he's been excellent in other roles as well.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1509767/

I would recommend getting the DVD so that you can have subtitles to help you understand what they're saying and who is talking to whom. The names of the characters aren't clear at all during the dialogue... and there are lots of characters!
Today I discovered that I had actually read Middlemarch a while ago. I looked in my notebooks and found 7 pages of quotes which I had copied by hand (before this computer era). I also found some xeroxed copies of a critique from Masterplots, Vol 7 edited by Frank Northen Magill, pp 3879-3884. It starts out by saying:
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"In this story of the provincial English life of the mid-nineteenth century, George Eliot has contrived a work of art that exemplifies a theme both noble and coherent. The lives of her characters, as she reveals them, indicate the truth of the writer's statement that ideals are often thwarted when applied to an imperfect social order. This novel is an ample picture of many aspects of English social life during the Victorian period."
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Needless to say, this has all jogged my memory, although I remember nothing of the story from the book.
During my Internet search I found the following interesting page about Victorian Literature: http://www.online-literature.com/peri...
Excerpt:
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For many, the word “Victorian” conjures up images of over-dressed ladies and snooty gentlemen gathered in parlors and reading rooms. The idea of “manners” essentially sums up the social climate of middle-class England in the nineteenth century. Rules of personal conduct were in fact so inflexible that the Victorians garnered a reputation for saying one thing while doing another – an attack that the next generation of writers would take up with vigor."
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Jackie, Netflix has the following description of that movie:
The Three Musketeers (2011)
"The original three musketeers are past their prime and working menial jobs in Paris when their friend D'Artagnan rallies them to defend the nation. To do so, they must undermine Cardinal Richelieu's plot to have himself crowned France's next king."
FROM: http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/The_T...

"Albert Nobbs" (2011)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1602098/
http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Alber...
It was great. Very compelling. I gave it 5 Netflix stars. The character of Albert Nobbs was very touching and Glenn Close played it so well. I was also impressed with the acting of Janet McTeer, a very likable character.
In the bonus section I learned that they added to Glen Close's nose and ears to give her that strange appearance.
I'm glad I didn't know anything about the plot before seeing the movie. I think that fact made the movie more compelling for me. That sense of "where-is-this-leading to" helped to make the film even more intriguing.
The story was based on: Albert Nobbs: A Novella by George Moore.
Below are further details about the novella:
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Wiki lists the following as one of George Moore's works: "A Story-Teller's Holiday ... 1918". About this work, Wiki says: "This work contains the story later re-published in the collection Celibate Lives, 1927, as the short story "The Singular Life of Albert Nobbs" which was made into a 2011 movie, "Albert Nobbs", starring Glenn Close."
FROM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_M...
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I wonder who was instrumental in digging this great story out of the past and
making a movie out of it.

It's based on the novel True Women by Janice Woods Windle (which I have not read, but which I understand was inspired by the author's own ancestors), and is set mainly in 19th-century Texas, with some scenes in Georgia, where the main characters are originally from. Some of the male characters are strong, admirable types, well-drawn and well-played; but as the title suggests, the main focus is on the women of the cast. The three central "true women" of the story are pioneer woman Sarah, her much younger sister Euphemia ("Pheemy"), and Pheemy's childhood friend Georgia, born into the planter aristocracy, but 1/4 Cherokee. Until tonight, I had never noticed that Georgia is played by Angelina Jolie; her performance is so pitch perfect that you see her completely as the character without being conscious of her as an actress at all --a feat that says something about Jolie's skill and range as an actress. (Georgia's tempestuous personality is a far cry from Lady Croft's icy-cool, tightly-controlled demeanor in the Tomb Raider movies.) Dana Delany and Annabeth Gish (Sarah and Pheemy, respectively), turn in stellar performances as well.
Our characters here, over a period of decades, find themselves involved in some of the most dramatic and morally challenging events and conflicts of their day: Texas' war for independence, the Trail of Tears, the Indian wars (with atrocities on both sides) and subjugation and dispossession of the Comanches, the trauma of slavery, the Civil War and Reconstruction, and the fight for women's suffrage. Throw in cholera epidemics, potentially lethal childbirth, physical hardship and danger galore, and you get a strong sense that the women who were full partners with their men in birthing a better world for their descendants were anything but a "weaker sex!" With round, dynamic characters, a really well written script, moral discernment that recognizes the reality of good and evil but has a sympathetic sensitivity to all the shades of gray that humans have to struggle with in a messed-up world, and a profound testament to the value of family and friendship, this is a winner all around. If you ever get a chance to see it on TV or to grab up the DVD, my advice is do it --I think you'll be glad you did!
The link for more information is: www.imdb.com/title/tt0118499 .


Werner, thank goodness that Netflix has it!
"True Women" (1997)
http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/True_...
"Based on a true story, this adaptation of Janice Woods Windle's novel is set in the plains of West Texas during the Civil War. Sarah McClure (Dana Delany) and her sister, Euphemia (Annabeth Gish), struggle to survive in this male-dominated land. When their homestead falls under attack by Mexican rebels and American Indian tribesmen, the two must find a way to bring their family to safety before it's too late."
I've put it on my Netflix queue and moved it to the to the top of the list. There is a "very long wait". So it MUST be as good as you say it is!
PS-I've put in a request for it at our public library and they have it. So now I just have to wait for notification that it's ready. As far as I could see at the online catalog, it was in and available. So I should be getting it soon.
Thanks, Werner. I look forward to seeing it.

I'm not sure who writes Netflix's descriptions, and I suspect that he/she doesn't base them on actual viewing of the films. :-) In this case, the setting is eastern Texas, not West Texas, and the time frame is much broader than just the Civil War. There are no "Mexican rebels" in the movie, and this particular description apparently conflates two unrelated incidents. (But at least they spelled the ladies' names right!)

I wanted to go see The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel and it's not playing anywhere around here! I rarely go to movies, it figures the one I want to see isn't playing.
Look at this cast: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1412386/
And the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDY89L...

LOL - Werner, that is priceless! I feel like notifying Netflix about that. Maybe I will! :)

Joy, even if you complained, I doubt that Netflix would change anything. The bottom line is that it takes time to watch a movie, and they have to describe a LOT of movies. Paying somebody to watch them would cost a lot of wages, raising overhead (and of course prices). So probably all that Netflix customers can do is realize that the descriptions need to be taken with a grain of salt. (Or perhaps a block of salt....)

I think subscribers would be willing to do it because it'd make a better site and be beneficial to them in the long run.
It couldn't hurt for them to ask and see what happens.




I figured that if they used imdb's word-for-word, there would be issues, or maybe they can pay a nominal fee.
Either way, I think Netflix should have accurate descriptions or nothing at all.

I think Werner's "grain of salt" idea is a good one. :)

I agree completely! I get that they have economic issues with watching the movies before they describe them; but they obviously get some kind of plot summaries from the producers when they buy the rights to use the films, and they DO have time to read them decently before drafting the descriptions customers use to make decisions about what movies to rent. (And as Jackie noted, they could consult imdb for information without copying it verbatim; that would probably take what, two minutes?) If they have time to slop over something and do a poor job, they have time to do a good one; the issue here isn't so much one of time as of having any kind of work ethic to care about what they're supposed to be doing. The business culture of the U.S. today tends to have an attitude of laziness rampant, anything goes, the customer be hanged (but don't get me started on that subject.... ).

"Dune" (1984)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087182/
http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Dune/...
Netflix description: "In the year 10,191, the world is at war for control of the desert planet Dune -- the only place where the time-travel substance Spice can be found. But when one leader gives up control, it's only so he can stage a coup with some unsavory characters. Frank Herbert's popular sci-fi novel gets mesmerizing treatment from director David Lynch, who casts Kyle MacLachlan as protagonist Paul Altreidis and rock musician Sting as the villainous Feyd."
"This movie is: Dark, Imaginative"
What did you think of the Netflix description (above)? :)

I don't agree with 'Dark' but I do with 'Imaginative'.
I'm interested what you think of the movie, Joy. Let us know when you've finished, or even if you don't. It's a long movie and it gets very deep, it may be hard to follow but try to bear with it, it's an amazing story.
"The Spice Must Flow"
Werner, I feel the same about no work ethics anymore, hardly anyone takes pride in their work. I don't get it. When I work, I strive to be my very best.

I can understand the value of "spice". Everybody wants it. :) I like the idea that they can travel in space (without moving) by "folding" space. It reminds me about the scientific theory about space having a "warp" in it. Not that I understand that either! LOL
Francesca Annis ( http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia... ) is pretty as Lady Jessica. I've seen her somewhere before but can't think where. (Maybe in "Edward the King" as Lillie Langtry.)
I'll keep you posted.


Werner,
The difference between the Dune and the Eragon adaptations is that Dune stayed true to the story though much of it was cut for time. Eragon, on the other hand, was completely changed, only the bare bones of the story remained. Now that was a disappointment. I can't believe I went to the theater and spent money on that!
I am a huge Dune fan, it's my favorite scifi series. I would consider myself a serious Dune fan. The David Lynch one was good, that's the one Joy is watching. The other 2 are not Dune, one is, the other is another book, Children of Dune; both were done by Syfy, anyone that had high expectations from Syfy would deserve to be disappointed knowing the caliber of their original movies. lol
The only problem I had with the David Lynch version is that so much had to be cut for time. Which I understand, you can't pack 600+ pages into 3 hours. I'd like to see HBO make it into a series, 10 or 12 one hour episodes should allow it to remain as comprehensive as the book is.
Frank Herbert was complimentary towards Lynch's film adaptation, and that's more important to me that some puffed up Dunatics ripping on it. (Dunatic = Dune + Lunatic, and yes, I made that word up, lol)
I know a lot of Dune fans weren't pleased, but nothing would please them except for Frank climbing out of his grave. They don't want to like it. I've met so many of this type of Dune fan, they're too rigid and exclusive, thinking themselves superior. They're not true fans as far as I'm concerned. I believe true fans fully embrace the Duniverse, like I do. Sure there's times when I may not like something in the new Dune books, but I'm willing to give it chance, not hate it automatically just because Frank isn't involved. Sorry he's dead but move on, let others take the torch and enjoy the ride.

Werner, yes, I figured that would be the case.

... The David Lynch one was good, that's the one Joy is watching. ...
... Frank Herbert was complimentary towards Lynch's film adaptation, and that's more important to me that some puffed up Dunatics ripping on it. (Dunatic = Dune + Lunatic, and yes, I made that word up, lol) ..."
Jackie, thanks for your interesting comments about "Dune". I like the word you made up. LOL
Your explanation of "folded space" was excellent. Thanks.
I'm still watching "Dune" (1984)(Director David Lynch's adaptation). Haven't gotten very far. I'm taking it in small doses. :)

The time limitations of a typical movie are a problem in adapting a long, textured novel. That's why a minseries (or multiple movies) is an approach that's much more apt to do it justice.

If you ever get the chance, try Lynch's version. It's old so the scifi effects may be hokey, but that doesn't bother me either.
I recently re-read all the Dune, 15 or so. I think it's time to bust out the old VHS tape and watch it again. Now that nothing's on TV....
The only problem with miniseries is the expense, the producers don't want to put out that kind of money. But now that we've seen the success of HBO's True Blood and Game of Thrones, Showtimes' Dexter (I'm sure there's others), maybe we'll get some more of our beloved series on the little screen. That works for me, I'd rather watch a pay cable channel than go to the theater anyway.

We can hope to see more quality miniseries! I'd rather watch the small screen than go to a theater, too (though we don't have paid cable).





I'm watching the newest Underworld. Awakening.
If you liked the other ones, then you'll like this one, more of the same.


Well, I finished watching "Dune". As Jackie said, the special effects are hokey. In fact, they're almost outlandish at this point. As for the plot, the main idea is fairly simple, but the details were fuzzy to me because there were so many characters whose functions weren't completely clear to me. As I got into it, their roles became clearer but by that time it was too late. :)
I liked the way the credits at the end showed a separate screen for each main character and the actor who portrayed him/her. This helped me learn the actors' names or reminded me of them. Of course, Jose Ferrer was familiar but I kept forgetting his real name. Same with Patrick Stewart, Sting, Dean Stockwell, and Max von Sydow.
As for the character names and the names of the places, they're too strange or too long to remember. I do remember "Paul" and "Jessica". :) At least those are familiar names! The custom of using strange names in sci-fi stories is annoying to me but I guess it has its purposes.
BTW, I watched "Inglourious Basterds" (2009) last night on TNT.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361748/
Missed the beginning but saw most of it. Extremely tense and compelling! Couldn't stop watching. Brad Pitt was in it but Christoph Waltz stole the show.
http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photo...
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l2i...
Waltz won an Oscar as an actor in a supporting role.
You need to take a tranquilizer before you see that movie! (Inglorious Basterds) LOL

I would love to see the effects in a new version of Dune. Once again it's slated for a new movie version but I wouldn't hold my breath on it. It's been announced many times before.
Back when this was made, we weren't very advanced in special effect technology. Less than a decade after Star Wars, and that's where effects really began with Industrial Light and Magic. At the time, it really was magic, and they still wield it, amazing imaginations and technology. In the 35 years since ILM has been around they've garnered 23 scifi tech awards and 15 Oscars.
I think the only reason for the crazy names is so you get the scene you're not on earth any more. ??? Jim, do you have any ideas on why the crazy names?
I watched Inglourious Basterds, it was OK, nothing special to me. I'm pretty sure I was bored. Wasn't it partially a comedy? I can't remember, it didn't leave a lasting impression on me.
Anthony was the one who wanted to see it, not me. The only reason I'm forced to watch Anthony's movies is that he rents them and then they sit there unless I say 'Right now, let's watch this'. That's a good reason for me to not care for the film, being forced to watch it when I never wanted to see it to begin with. Men. Can't shoot 'em. lol Just kidding, all you wonderful and awesome men in this group!
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Just go back in to Options for one of the shows you adjusted and see what it says next to End Time, it'll have it right there without pressing any buttons.
Any changes have to be 'Saved' or it stays the way it was.
Good luck with it. And on Sunday night screw ups. My BIL watches The Good Wife and he told me this happens all time and he misses the end of it because it starts late.
About the bill, this confused me for a while, the cable box which has the DVR capability is $6 but the DVR service has it's own fee. I forget how much but more than $10.
You can't 'buy' a DVR box, you can only 'rent' it. Just go to TW office with the old one and they'll replace it at no cost. I have no idea why he said you can buy one. Nor should you, this is what you're paying for. I don't think you need a new box anyway, the DVR is functioning, it's CBS who's screwing up, a new box won't help that and you'll still have to program it the way I described.