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The Most Unnecessary Death
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Finnick Odair (one of my favorite characters in THG)... He died just like that. No one seemed to care about it. If he was meant to die, the least we could expect was a memorable scene... His death was just dumb. I'm glad Collins didn't kill Johanna (my other favorite character).
Definitely Finnick, I can see what Collins was trying to achieve with his sudden death, but it seemed unnecessary all the same :(
Memolly96 wrote: "Finnick and Prim!"As much as I hated Prim's death, I think it was necessary because it was the reason Katniss turned on Coin, which pretty much set the ending for the entire series.
Finnick's death was completely unnecessary. Even in the over-arching idea of Katniss as the hero who must finish the journey alone, Finnick didn't have to be sacrificed to satisfy the plot. I really hated Prim's death, too, but as was pointed out, Prim's death was the final straw that led Katniss to kill Coin.
Isn't it ironic that we readers seem much more deeply affected by Finnick's death than the characters themselves? That is why I didn't like Finnick's death in the book. I don't profess to be a great novelist by any stretch, but I do think that the author missed an opportunity at pulling an emotional chord with the readers. His death made me feel angry at the characters when I should have been empathizing with them for the loss of their friend. I think Finnick's death should have been given more time in the book and been more emotional. I can't figure out why it was so rushed in the novel and why the characters weren't more affected by it. I understand that they were under duress at that moment and had to keep moving....but the characters could have been given some emotion or reaction. There was hardly anything from them. If I were the editor, I would have made Miss Collins go back and rework that chapter. Rant over. :)
Finnick. Maybe Finnick's death would have been worthwhile if Collins had spent a little more time writing about his final stand. Readers would have been able to sympathize and truly mourn over his death, instead of thinking "Oh, Finnick's dead?" and then quickly reading about the next obstacle. Katniss didn't even seem to care a large amount about Finnick's death.
He wasn't a character in my mind that should have died. He had finally become happy with Annie, and yes, that would make him a natural kill, but he wasn't even a featured character anymore.
yeah I didn't understand if he was dead or what, I was like narr she wouldn't kill him (the author), hes just got a wife! well I was wrong...
Grace wrote: "Finnick. Maybe Finnick's death would have been worthwhile if Collins had spent a little more time writing about his final stand.
I agree i didn't even remember he died!
Memolly96 wrote: "Finnick and Prim!"I absolutley agree with you! Susan Collins didn't need to kill Finnick and/or Prim.
Prim and Finnick. Prim especially because if she was gonna die anyway, what was the point of the story?!! Well, besides killing Snow and overthrowing the Capital. Finnick just because it wasnt needed!!! ~J
Finnick and Prim's deaths are one of the main reason I didn't like this book as much, It was just a messy slaped together book. Oh and I completely agree with Julie Prims dead so what was the point of the story
Finick...but I'm biased because I love him and didn't want to him to die. However, Collins wanted it to happen, so it had too. Tell me, do you guys feel like any of the deaths in Harry Potter were unnecessary? Let's face J.k Rowling was like "...I have to...kill them all."
She broke my heart...
Finnick, because him dying didn't help the story, while Prim dying did.
Prim, I cried during that part. She was my favorite character.
I truly think that finnicks death was not needed because it didnt contribute to the story and hes a fan favorite.(thanks collins you really made me angry at your dumb dicision to kill finnick) p.us i agree with everyone else when it comes to his quick death. there shoul have been more emotion to it not just another mindless kill (excuse the spelling) XD
Roman wrote: "I truly think that finnicks death was not needed because it didnt contribute to the story and hes a fan favorite.(thanks collins you really made me angry at your dumb dicision to kill finnick) p.us..."For a moment I thought that nobody's going to think about Cinna's death. he was such a strong character and great emotional pillar for Katniss. I rally think that he shouldn't have died, just like Finnick or Prim. deaths just for the fun of it and it wasn't interesting to read those part.
Yeah I forgot about Cinna, that was awful! I think that one had meaning though, it was an extra message to Katniss just before she went into the ring that the Capital were in control. But awful, just awful...
It was surprising to me at how Rue's death and welfare was agonized over in the first book, while Prim's death was glossed over by comparison. It did not evoke the emotion that the first book did and I wouldn't have expected that.I agree with others here who said Cinna and Finnik
I think all of the deaths were necessary. I know I'm in the minority but Suzanne Collins wrote this series to show what happens during war. The loss of people you love, acquaintances and how people deal with the aftermath of those deaths. Don't get me wrong I cried my little eyes out when Prim died but I understood why Collins killed everyone off. I think this ending would have been more well received if the series was adult rather than young adult.
Karen wrote: "It was surprising to me at how Rue's death and welfare was agonized over in the first book, while Prim's death was glossed over by comparison. It did not evoke the emotion that the first book did ..."I was also surprised by that, initially. but, then I was thinking that rue was the first person that katniss had to watch die (at least the first one that she cared about)...just think about how many other people katniss had seen die by the time of prim's death- I think that by then she just didn't have the emotional capacity that she went into the games with.
I think cinna's death was necessary for katniss to embrace her role as the mockingjay.I think finnick's death was necessary to show that the good guys get killed in inglorious ways.
I think prim's death was necessary to show that what katniss helped achieve for panem was more important than saving the life of one girl.
I feel like everyone agrees that Finnick's death was devastating, whether or not they think it was necessary. Is anyone here a HP fan? Because when Collins says that Katniss includes a picture of Finnick and Annies baby in her deathbook, I felt like "it's lupin and tonks all over again.. Cept tonks isn't dead, just mentally unstable." That's why Finnick's death was so hard for me to take.
I feel like everyone agrees that Finnick's death was devastating, whether or not they think it was necessary. Is anyone here a HP fan? Because when Collins says that Katniss includes a picture of Finnick and Annies baby in her deathbook, I felt like "it's lupin and tonks all over again.. Cept tonks isn't dead, just mentally unstable." That's why Finnick's death was so hard for me to take.
Diana wrote: "Finnick. I think at this point, she goes a little overboard with the killing of characters."I completly agree!
i definitely think that the Finnick's death was unnecessary and Collins din't really seem to express any sorrow about his death. Though when they talk about Annie and his child it is a lot more heartfelt. She should have left one really happy couple at the end of the story.
Sancando wrote: "i definitely think that the Finnick's death was unnecessary and Collins din't really seem to express any sorrow about his death. Though when they talk about Annie and his child it is a lot more h..."so true, I wish she didn't kill him.
Memolly96 wrote: "Finnick and Prim!"Prim's death was aweful, but it made Katniss relize that what's her name doesn't really care about anything except power. If katniss hadn't killed her then their society wouldn't be any better.
Nya wrote: "definitely, hands down, finnick and prim."I totaly agree. They were both ahocking and heartbreaking...
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