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Just finished Whiplash River: A Novel .
Great stuff!
If you've been missing Elmore Leonard, here's his ghost.
I found New Hope for the Dead amusing, but really it's barely a crime novel (there is one twisted surprise in it , however). I preferred Miami Blues overall.
Started Freaky Deaky. I've never read Leonard before & I'm liking the dialogue so far.
Started Freaky Deaky. I've never read Leonard before & I'm liking the dialogue so far.


Never read a Rabe novel. Looks promising, plus I have the '57 cover by Mitchell Hooks, which is always a bonus.


Just finished it up. Did not grab me until about 20 pages in. However, after I was hooked. I will definitely read the rest of his Port series for sure.


Cannot seem to get enough of Westlake or Burnett lately."
Half way through Westlake's penultimate novel



Damn!
How are these things published without my knowledge beforehand?
Must have!


Damn!
How are these things published without my knowledge beforehand?
Must have!"
Finished it Still. A perplexing read. Although the story is completely different, psychologically it's very similar to 'The Ax', which i think you enjoyed.


Also reading The Quiet Earth



I'm looking forward to that one.

I'm looking forward to that one."
It's incredible.

I'm looking forward to that one."
It's incredible."
By far my favorite JT novel. Harrowing but excellent.
Movie is also worth watching & very faithful to the book.




"Shell" seems like an milder right-hand version of Mike Hammer - only with a genuine sense of humor.
I really need to revist this series.
Last time I read Prather he was being quoted in an over-the-top manner in Bill Pronzini's "Gun In Cheek" essays -which I loved.


Now I am about to start The Killer Inside Me, which I have been meaning to read for ages, and when I saw it mentioned earlier, that reminded me.





You're in for a treat!



Those are a bargain at twice the price. I haven't read any Richard S. Prather books before but I went ahead and bought four of them to check out.

They haven't done it yet that I can see. Everything looks normal price, including the Shell Scott stuff, which is in the 3-4 buck range it's been at for a while (unless that's already the discounted price, which is why they're in the 3-4 buck range for now). There is some excellent stuff there, from Block to Estlemen to Marquand's Mr Moto. I bought Prather's Shell Scott story, Dead Man's Walk last night but was going to kick myself if it was discounted further this morning. Going to suck if they go up after the 20th. I might pick up a couple more before then, just in case. LOL I already flinch at Kindle pricing for Michael Shayne at almost 7 bucks a pop, and The Saint books which were even higher at around 9 bucks, but are showing up as unavailable now.

Perfect!
Just "bought" 4 or 5 of them.
I own the original paperbacks but I don't want to mess them up trying to read them - they're fragile enough as it is.
Also -making my way through Frank Gruber's "Johnny Fletcher" mystery, The Silver Tombstone -
a fun, breezy read in the same league as Jonathan Latimer, Norbert Davis, and Frederick Nebel.
Many thanks, Edwin.


Thanks for the tip Edwin!!


Did not know that Luke Short wrote "Ramrod" -one of my all time favorite noir-Westerns starring Veronica Lake and Joel McCrea with a surprising performance by Don DeFore as a dashing young fast gun on the run.
Great film.
I need to read the book.


I looked up the Luke Short Western stories made into films, and there were a couple that surprised me:
Ramrod, Ride the Man Down, Coroner's Creek, Ambush, Vengeance Valley, Station West, Albuquerque, and Robert Mitchum's noir Western, Blood On the Moon, which was based on Luke Short's Gunman's Chance.
Reading Stark's The Outfit now. I plan on making my way through the entire series in order (assuming the world doesn't end first). Not sure if I'll read the Grofield ones, though.
Also picked up 2 early Westlakes - The Cutie and 361. No idea if they are any good, but I appreciate how Hard Case Crime presents their books.
The Killer Inside Me film was mentioned. Personally, I didn't think it worked very well. A better adaptation is After Dark, My Sweet from the 90's.
Also picked up 2 early Westlakes - The Cutie and 361. No idea if they are any good, but I appreciate how Hard Case Crime presents their books.
The Killer Inside Me film was mentioned. Personally, I didn't think it worked very well. A better adaptation is After Dark, My Sweet from the 90's.
I've started the second Lew Archer book : "The Drowning Pool" - the first two chapters are classic hardboiled - excellent, makes me wonder why these books are not mentioned as often as the Chandlers and the Hammets.

I've read several of the books in the 'Lew Archer' series & haven't been disappointed yet.

Also picked up 2..."
The Cutie is quite good, 361 is excellent. Can't really go wrong with any of the Parker books. I would leave the Grofeld books until you've read the Parker novels. At least the original 16 Parker books. But that's just my opinion, of course.

Macdonald was a terrific writer, and his Lew Archer series one of the finest. I tend to like his later work the best. I know some don't like him but his books about broken people, damaged families and the fallout from it was quietly powerful. He made Archer, an emotional bystander, trying to solve the case and swim through the pain without letting it touch him, and nearly always failing, just like the reader. His Sleeping Beauty is my fav. I saw one reviewer who dislikes Macdonald's work call it excrement. Well, that's Goodreads for ya. LOL


You have to wonder what authors they do like. Macdonald, like Chandler & a few others, transcend the detective/hard-boiled genre with the quality of their evocative prose.

Yeah, you do have to wonder, but then it's Goodreads. LOL Everyone likes different stuff to a different degree. I have a couple of authors I almost loathe -- for different reasons -- but have friends who love the guys. I'd never go that far, because even if I truly detest something, if that guy or woman could write, and others like them, then it's simply that I don't care for what he or she wrote, or the way they wrote it. It's hard to imagine anyone feeling that way about Macdonald, who as you said, elevated the detective novel just as Chandler did. Not someone's cup of tea? Fine. Too dry? Not enough action? Fine. Too cerebral? Fine. But absolute, er, cow dung? You see that kind of thing a lot on Goodreads unfortunately. Asimov used to always say about such "critique," that Why don't they go write something better then? LOL


Also picked up 2..."
I'm reading a Westlake presumably published posthumously -

I've gone through all of the first 16 or 17 Parker novels ...everything but the ones published in the 80s or 90s.
I've read one Grofeld novel and need to read more.
I especially enjoyed

and

as well as

But Memory by Donald E. Westlake is one of the best non-Parker Westlakes I've ever read.
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